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Graneet 11-03-2014 03:18 PM

Well got the notification from bbb that a complaint has been filed and he has three weeks to respond. Wondering what hes gonna say. Should be interesting

Graneet 11-03-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4502949)
OH I see its not a pet store just an unscrupulous broker type breeder....great...


I'm sorry he got your hopes up, but this just isn't the way to get a Yorkie. Reminds me of Tanisha Breton....

Who is tanisha breton?

SirTeddykins 11-04-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4502948)
The only thing worse IMHO than a Pet Store is a Pet Store who gives Puppies as prizes, OMG...Graneet, you lucked out that you didn't get your prize.......glad your reporting him, plaster it on Craigslist as well. Just got totally sick to my stomach.....

:thumbup::thumbup::

I saw that some people were giving Yorkies and Maltese pups away at child beauty pageants...


Just when you think you've seen/heard it all!:mad:

lynzy420 11-04-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SirTeddykins (Post 4503406)
:thumbup::thumbup::

I saw that some people were giving Yorkies and Maltese pups away at child beauty pageants...


Just when you think you've seen/heard it all!:mad:


Yeah just when....some other thoughtless greeder will think of something else...uggghhhhh

calismama 11-04-2014 06:21 AM

That's terrible! Please keep us updated on how it goes. It is so mean of him to do that to people!

Graneet 11-04-2014 06:39 AM

I think some of that stuff is lack of knowledge. Your backyard breeder doesnt take time to check stuff out. There not involved in shows etc so just do what they do.
Not that its right. But this guy has been in business for over ten years. He should know better. Not sure whats going on but hes changed and not reliable. Coarse those who got their puppy will sing his praises. I didnt demand he give me a month when he would have pups he said them. Why when that month came and i saw pups put on line i tried to contact him to no avail. Not till he texted me to sell me one did he talk to me. Till i dare question him two months before the year wAs up did i ask if i was gonna get one. I mean after being told 4 times he would have puppys then when he posted them being told no. And that was only when he texted me to sell the did he make any effort to talk to me at all. Think he forgot who i was. Or pretended to. I realize getting a free one is his option. I also realize its a huge gift. But if you dont have the goods dont offer them period. See i think he does that because it draws more people to his sight in hopes to win. Then when they wait long enough the will see a puppy they love and just go ahead and buy it.

Graneet 11-14-2014 01:26 PM

Well i contacted scott told him to please honor his word. Here is his response and mine to him.

Here is scotts reply

I know exactly who you are.
I will save your email and when I have puppies of my own I will contact you. I will extend the time until this is taken care of. I can't imagine what type of person you are but I will let God judge between you and me. I have already forgiven you but please don't email or text me. Like I said if it's a year from now I will make this right. I do need your full name, address and phone number so I can have it for my records. Just so I know for sure. You spent $20 and got your toy but because of my misfortune of not having puppies soon enough you filed a complaint against me? Do I have the right person?
Thanks

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

My reply:

Yes scott you have the right person here is the post where you showed i won and congradulated me. I have since moved to ohio.


Scotts Puppy Palace We Have a Puppy Winner!!!
Sent Friday, October 11, 2013
View as plaintext
Hello Everybody,
Hope your all doing well. Our Winner has contacted us!
Teresa Howell of Eaton, Colorado is our Limited Entry winner.
She is waiting on a Yorkie puppy. Congratulations Teresa!

For everyone that purchased a toy, I will be sending those out next week.
Thanks so much for trying to win. It was a lot more work with the extra emails and questions but hopefully it was more exciting for everyone.


Scott all i EVER asked was communication. When i picked a puppy you had one on line in oct and i said i wanted that one. You said then it had to be YOUR puppy and that one wasnt. ( i NEVER ONCE demanded a date for you to give me a puppy). You knew at the times you gave months( dec-jan or feb- april or when i questioned you a couple of months which would be oct. At our last communication when you got mad) that i won a free one. So why did you say those dates then post yorkies and say nope not mine. What was i to think.

One of the things that made me even mess with your sight is you showed to be a christian. So i thought i could trust you. When you gave me those months i figured you knew when your females would be having babies. You have been in business long enough to know that. So when you gave me those dates i took you at your word. So if needing to forgive ME makes you feel better im glad.
Sorry you feel your the one who has been wronged in this matter.

I will send this and your response to the bbb. I only hope you change how you communicate with people. I know if i had offered money you would have stay on top of it. The free puppy offer is also a ligit part of your business to.

I will be waiting for my puppy. Until then this will remain with bbb.



You wonder why im pushing this to make him accountable[/B]
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

Lovetodream88 11-14-2014 08:32 PM

This is not a good breeder! If you do get the dog it will probably be sick and cost you a massive amount of money. Complain and let the word know he is wrong but don't push for and get a pup from him. It will cost you a lot of heartbreak and money.

MarkFromSea 11-14-2014 10:54 PM

From what I'm reading, he's running a raffle across state lines... I believe that also qualifies it as a federal issue... at his site, he places a value on the prize of $1,400 +++ free airfare/shipping. Use that amount, + the value of shipping, when filing your complaints to the appropriate authorities. If you state free puppie, authorities won't know the value.

He's using the internet, $20 entrance fee, $1400 prize, if you mailed your $20, USPS may be involved but def still federal because it crosses state lines... FBI comes to mind.

If you are at the point that you believe he will never honor his obligation, submit your complaint to the biggest dog on the block. You probably won't receive your pup but, he may face legal challenges that will cost him much more.

How to Report a Scam

He's running a raffle on the internet, there's just no way his operation can be legal! The gambling outfits have reams of legal requirements to do so.

Graneet 11-15-2014 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea (Post 4506111)
From what I'm reading, he's running a raffle across state lines... I believe that also qualifies it as a federal issue... at his site, he places a value on the prize of $1,400 +++ free airfare/shipping. Use that amount, + the value of shipping, when filing your complaints to the appropriate authorities. If you state free puppie, authorities won't know the value.

He's using the internet, $20 entrance fee, $1400 prize, if you mailed your $20, USPS may be involved but def still federal because it crosses state lines... FBI comes to mind.

If you are at the point that you believe he will never honor his obligation, submit your complaint to the biggest dog on the block. You probably won't receive your pup but, he may face legal challenges that will cost him much more.

How to Report a Scam

He's running a raffle on the internet, there's just no way his operation can be legal! The gambling outfits have reams of legal requirements to do so.

The way he does it is you purchase a toy for your dog. You pay $20.00. Then only 60 people are entered. Then he picks one from the group that wins a puppy. Thats how i won. I would not have entered a raffel.

Graneet 11-15-2014 09:17 AM

I also do not have the heart to bring all you know what down on him. I just do not want people to , like me get their hopes up for nothing. I want him to be held accountable. Whether i get a puppy or not. If i dont it will stay on the bbb for others to see. He seems to have done well in the past. He offers people to come get their puppy. So hes not trying to hide anything. It just makes me angry HE GAVE DATES when he would have puppies. Actually showed some yorkies those months. If they were not his why say that HE would have them. It just gave me the feeling he did have them but chose to sell them instead. Which is his right. Just dont tell me then back out.
Then act like hes the victim because i reminded him he was ruining his witness. By doing business this way.

Lovetodream88 11-15-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graneet (Post 4506162)
I also do not have the heart to bring all you know what down on him. I just do not want people to , like me get their hopes up for nothing. I want him to be held accountable. Whether i get a puppy or not. If i dont it will stay on the bbb for others to see. He seems to have done well in the past. He offers people to come get their puppy. So hes not trying to hide anything. It just makes me angry HE GAVE DATES when he would have puppies. Actually showed some yorkies those months. If they were not his why say that HE would have them. It just gave me the feeling he did have them but chose to sell them instead. Which is his right. Just dont tell me then back out.
Then act like hes the victim because i reminded him he was ruining his witness. By doing business this way.

One thing you need to realize is people will use god to make people think they are good people when they are not. Most puppy mill websites you will find a reference to god. Also Amish who are very religious are one of biggest puppy mill owners. Good breeders also don't just give someone a puppy like that. I'm telling you don't push getting the puppy just let everyone know about him.

OwnedByJezebel 11-15-2014 12:22 PM

This is just crazy. I'm so glad you reported him. Don't give up, he needs to be taught a lesson. (But don't take one of his puppies, either).

OwnedByJezebel 11-15-2014 12:25 PM

Wow just google "scott's puppy palace" and all kinds of complaints show up.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Scot...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

MarkFromSea 11-15-2014 06:54 PM

Your choice! There's an old Cheech and Chong comedy skit that covers what you described.... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs


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