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ZoesMama 10-29-2014 12:02 AM
Preparing for Zoe
 
Okay everyone! So far this is what I have gotten:

Crate
Doggy pen
Dog bowls
Blankets
Toys
Collar
Nutra Cal
Brush
Bows ;)


Is there anything else I need to get before she comes home next week? Her breeder is providing a month supply of royal canin puppy food, so I don't need any of that just yet. I know I need shampoo and conditioner but am unsure what brand is the best. I'd prefer a brand I can just get from petco or petsmart rather than having to order offline.


Thanks in advance! :)

SirTeddykins 10-29-2014 12:12 AM
If you plan on teaching her to use pads - you'll need those?
Also, maybe a harness and leash?
She'll be too young to walk before all of her shots and stuff but those few weeks go by quickly so best to be prepared!
Oh and LOTS of puppy shampoo!!!!! I made sure mine was antibacterial and tear free. Puppies are messy to their environments and themselves!
So exciting!

ZoesMama 10-29-2014 12:15 AM
Oh my gosh you just saved me. I can't believe I forgot pee pads! Thank you for reminding me, lol!

SirTeddykins 10-29-2014 12:18 AM
No problem.


So that they don't go directly on the floor, I bought Teddy a cat box which had a top on it and just removed the top and put his pads on the bottom of the box. This way, the pee stays contained and doesn't run out onto your floors and he has happily used this with virtually no accidents since he was 14 weeks old. We brought him home at 12 weeks.


We bought the cat tray with a top because, with him being a boy, thought he may need the higher sides for when he lifted his leg. You, however, will not have this problem so you could buy a cat tray and either teach her to jump in and out of it (which Teddy does with no problem at all) or just alter the sides for easy access.


I clean his box with antibac wipes at the beginning and end of each day, too.


I saw the pic of Zoe in the pic area - gosh, she's gorgeous!

ZoesMama 10-29-2014 12:23 AM
That is a brilliant idea, I never thought about that! Thank you for sharing it with me. I was a bit worried about her pee running onto my floor. And thank you! When I first met her she was very shy and laid back. Her breeder text me and said Zoe has came out of her shell a bunch! I'm looking forward to seeing it for myself, lol.

Verbena 10-29-2014 06:17 AM
Check out my Blog

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/blo...arter-kit.html

I have a list.


Puppy Starter Kit

Puppy food - whatever puppy is eating now

Tube of Nutra Cal

Blankets

Potty pads

Potty pad holder

Iris 4 sided expen with 2 extra sides

Toys

Identification tags

Nature’s Miracle

Treats- Cheerios work well

Small bowls

Harness

Leash

Puppy shampoo

Conditioner

Espree Pet Facial Cleanser - plum

Baby wipes

Nail clippers

Kwik Stop Styptic Powder

Curved scissors

Brush - Li'l Pals Slicker Purple and Green Brush for Kittens, Extra Small - slicker brush that I find it to work awesome... just make sure you get one without any ball on the ends of the pins so it doesn't snag the long hair.

Comb - Groomaster Finishing Dog Comb - this is a great eye comb, I have it and use it to get eye boogies out and even to use around their butt when they get some dry puppy stuck!

Books

"Yorkies For Dummies"
"Yorkshire Terriers: A Smart Owners Guide"
"How to Housebreak Your Dog in 7 Days"

Lovetodream88 10-29-2014 08:26 AM
Didn't you just post she was 6 weeks old? Yorkies should not leave there moms until 12 weeks and reputable breeders know that. You also need a harness because you should never use a leash hooked to a collar, collars are only good for id tags.

thelittleyorkie 10-29-2014 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4501418)
Didn't you just post she was 6 weeks old? Yorkies should not leave there moms until 12 weeks and reputable breeders know that. You also need a harness because you should never use a leash hooked to a collar, collars are only good for id tags.
Then that means she's coming home at 7 to 8 weeks, which is very, very young...there are still some things mom needs to teach her pups at that time. I would probably add pet health insurance to the list, just to be on the safe side.

Don't forget to also buy a towel or use an old absorbent towel for bath time!

ZoesMama 10-29-2014 10:34 PM
Yes, I did. However I was assuming that was her age. Her breeder never told me her age, we got side tracked talking about other things every time I was about to ask. Her breeder has been breeding for years and is registered with my state. She's very reputable. She will not let her pups go unless she thinks they're ready. So I may not be getting zoe next week. I'm still preparing for her regardless though. Thank you everyone!

thelittleyorkie 10-30-2014 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501739)
Yes, I did. However I was assuming that was her age. Her breeder never told me her age, we got side tracked talking about other things every time I was about to ask. Her breeder has been breeding for years and is registered with my state. She's very reputable. She will not let her pups go unless she thinks they're ready. So I may not be getting zoe next week. I'm still preparing for her regardless though. Thank you everyone!
You still have to be very careful though...I live in MO too and Missouri (along with pennsylvania) are practically crawling with puppy mills. Remember to ask the breeder what age your pup is next time you talk to her, just to make sure.

By "registered with my state" did you mean registered by AKC or USDA or...?
What breeder are you getting her from? Is it yorkies-playhouse.com..? The kennels in the background of your profile pic look like the ones shown on the website.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501739)
Yes, I did. However I was assuming that was her age. Her breeder never told me her age, we got side tracked talking about other things every time I was about to ask. Her breeder has been breeding for years and is registered with my state. She's very reputable. She will not let her pups go unless she thinks they're ready. So I may not be getting zoe next week. I'm still preparing for her regardless though. Thank you everyone!
Ok just make sure she stays with her mom until 12 weeks because that is what reputable breeders do and is a red flag of a not good breeder.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by thelittleyorkie (Post 4501887)
You still have to be very careful though...I live in MO too and Missouri (along with pennsylvania) are practically crawling with puppy mills. Remember to ask the breeder what age your pup is next time you talk to her, just to make sure.

By "registered with my state" did you mean registered by AKC or USDA or...?
What breeder are you getting her from? Is it yorkies-playhouse.com..? The kennels in the background of your profile pic look like the ones shown on the website.
Yikes I hope she didn't go with that breeder because that is not a reputable breeder :(

thelittleyorkie 10-30-2014 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4501926)
Ok just make sure she stays with her mom until 12 weeks because that is what reputable breeders do and is a red flag of a not good breeder.
Also, adding on to this: if the breeder is letting her go before 12 weeks, ask if she can keep her longer until 12 weeks....I know it's a longer wait, but she should still be with her mom until that age.

Best of luck!!!! :D

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 02:41 PM
The breeders website is mmyorkies.com. She doesn't use that website anymore, though. She's in the process of moving from my town to a town 40 minutes away, so I haven't been able to see how the puppies are kept. She seems like a very nice lady who knows what she is doing. I haven't heard from her about Zoe in awhile though, so I'm going to contact her tomorrow and see what is going on.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 02:42 PM
My mom put a deposit on Zoe's sister and was suppose to pick her up last week- the breeder said she wanted to wait one more week because she didn't think the pup was ready yet. My mom hasn't heard from the breeder. We are becoming concerned.

P.s- my moms puppy is from a different litter. Her puppy was 2 1/2 weeks older than Zoe.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 02:46 PM
Sorry I should add that this lady has like 6-7 different mama and daddy yorkies that she breeds. Which is why my moms pup was older than zoe. Sorry for any confusion! I'm becoming very concerned and upset. I've bought everything I need for this puppy and haven't heard a peep. If I can't get Zoe, I don't know who else has Yorkies around my area. I put a 100 deposit and will be paying 442 at pick up. I can't spend another 100 on another pup. All I have is the 500 saved for Zoe. The breeder said she already registered their microchips under our names though.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501996)
The breeders website is mmyorkies.com. She doesn't use that website anymore, though. She's in the process of moving from my town to a town 40 minutes away, so I haven't been able to see how the puppies are kept. She seems like a very nice lady who knows what she is doing. I haven't heard from her about Zoe in awhile though, so I'm going to contact her tomorrow and see what is going on.
Not much on the website but calling them mini yorkies is a red flag.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 03:17 PM
Hmm. Well, the lady was very nice and seems to take very good care of the puppies. I guess I will just see what happens!

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501999)
Sorry I should add that this lady has like 6-7 different mama and daddy yorkies that she breeds. Which is why my moms pup was older than zoe. Sorry for any confusion! I'm becoming very concerned and upset. I've bought everything I need for this puppy and haven't heard a peep. If I can't get Zoe, I don't know who else has Yorkies around my area. I put a 100 deposit and will be paying 442 at pick up. I can't spend another 100 on another pup. All I have is the 500 saved for Zoe. The breeder said she already registered their microchips under our names though.
That's a really cheap price which means the breeder probably is not doing the things a reputable breeder does which means you could end up with a sick pup or a pup that ends up having serious genetic issues that might not pop up for a year or two. Not having the money for a pup from a reputable breeder is concerning because how are you going to pay for all the puppy shots and visits, what about emergencies or genetic issues?

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 03:21 PM
Can you explain how it's a red flag that she calls them mini Yorkies? Sorry I don't understand that, lol. And I can afford the vet bills and to take care of her.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 03:22 PM
She's registered with the AKC and so are the puppies.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4502017)
Can you explain how it's a red flag that she calls them mini Yorkies? Sorry I don't understand that, lol. And I can afford the vet bills and to take care of her.
Because a yorkie is just a yorkie. Using words like teacup, micro and mini is just words bad breeders use to make money. They also normally use females that are under 5 pounds for breeding to make these smaller yorkies and that is very dangerous for the female yorkie and it's unethical.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4502020)
She's registered with the AKC and so are the puppies.
That doesn't mean anything. There are a lot of bad breeders and puppy mills that AKC register, the AKC does not check to make sure it's a good breeder or not a puppy mill.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 03:40 PM
I really don't think just because I pay 542 for a puppy means the breeder is not reputable. Zoe's breeder does this because she loves Yorkies and it's something to do on the side since she is retired. You could pay 1000 and end up with a sick pup. I'm not sure why people assume because people aren't breaking an arm and leg to pay for a puppy means they are going to get a sick puppy. Someone I know of actually just spent 800 on a yorkie that died a few days later. So price doesn't guarantee the health. Also, just because I don't want to spend more than 500 on a pup doesn't mean I can't afford to take care of one. That's absurd. This breeder is registered with my state, and the AKC. All puppies have a health guarantee and are micro chipped. A lot of people buy from her and use them as show dogs. So she is very reputable.

ZoesMama 10-30-2014 03:44 PM
I'm not understanding what makes you assume this breeder isn't a good one? She definitely does not run a puppy mill. I saw her old house where she kept the puppies and there was no room for a puppy mill. It was in a wonderful neighborhood. I've seen puppy mills and this place could not of been one.

Lovetodream88 10-30-2014 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4502031)
I really don't think just because I pay 542 for a puppy means the breeder is not reputable. Zoe's breeder does this because she loves Yorkies and it's something to do on the side since she is retired. You could pay 1000 and end up with a sick pup. I'm not sure why people assume because people aren't breaking an arm and leg to pay for a puppy means they are going to get a sick puppy. Someone I know of actually just spent 800 on a yorkie that died a few days later. So price doesn't guarantee the health. Also, just because I don't want to spend more than 500 on a pup doesn't mean I can't afford to take care of one. That's absurd. This breeder is registered with my state, and the AKC. All puppies have a health guarantee and are micro chipped. A lot of people buy from her and use them as show dogs. So she is very reputable.
No price doesn't mean much but most reputable breeders who know there lines and do things reputable have to sell for more the that to break even. Breed quality yorkies is not just a side job to make money She has many red flags therefore I don't think she is a goo breeder. I have been through this before I know the red flags. I'm sorry this is not something you want to hear. I would love to see some proof she had show dogs. I'm sorry but just being registered with you state and the AKC does not make her reputable many bad breeders and puppy mills do that too.

lynzy420 10-30-2014 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501739)
Yes, I did. However I was assuming that was her age. Her breeder never told me her age, we got side tracked talking about other things every time I was about to ask. Her breeder has been breeding for years and is registered with my state. She's very reputable. She will not let her pups go unless she thinks they're ready. So I may not be getting zoe next week. I'm still preparing for her regardless though. Thank you everyone!

What do you mean registered with the state?

thelittleyorkie 10-30-2014 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4502031)
I really don't think just because I pay 542 for a puppy means the breeder is not reputable. Zoe's breeder does this because she loves Yorkies and it's something to do on the side since she is retired. You could pay 1000 and end up with a sick pup. I'm not sure why people assume because people aren't breaking an arm and leg to pay for a puppy means they are going to get a sick puppy. Someone I know of actually just spent 800 on a yorkie that died a few days later. So price doesn't guarantee the health. Also, just because I don't want to spend more than 500 on a pup doesn't mean I can't afford to take care of one. That's absurd. This breeder is registered with my state, and the AKC. All puppies have a health guarantee and are micro chipped. A lot of people buy from her and use them as show dogs. So she is very reputable.
Checking on the website--I see that her dams/sires are from Deb Sillers, who is very reputable & also on the board. I think you should email Deb, since if she allowed for this woman to breed on full registration, she must be alright...?

The reason why $500 is so low for a puppy is because most reputable breeders charge $1000-1200. Why? Because of the cost of the parents, the food, the shots, the vet visits, the training, the grooming, the puppy pads, the cost of the crates, X-pens, not to mention all of the work that goes with it. If she charges $500 for a puppy, that's exceedingly cheap, considering that she would be losing thousands per puppy....

I don't understand what you mean by "registered by state".
Also, AKC registration doesn't always mean everything--puppy mills, BYBs, it's all easy for them to get AKC registration.

Just because you pay $800 doesn't mean that you will get a sick puppy. People sell sick puppies all the time, from $200, to $500, to $800, to $1200, to $5000. You just have to do your research and make sure to spot all the red flags.

thelittleyorkie 10-30-2014 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoesMama (Post 4501999)
Sorry I should add that this lady has like 6-7 different mama and daddy yorkies that she breeds. Which is why my moms pup was older than zoe. Sorry for any confusion! I'm becoming very concerned and upset. I've bought everything I need for this puppy and haven't heard a peep. If I can't get Zoe, I don't know who else has Yorkies around my area. I put a 100 deposit and will be paying 442 at pick up. I can't spend another 100 on another pup. All I have is the 500 saved for Zoe. The breeder said she already registered their microchips under our names though.
Honestly, if this breeder turns out to be bad news, the $100 will be the least of your concerns. You could end up paying well over $2000 for surgery costs, vet costs, etc.,


I hope you don't feel like me or the other members on here are being rude. We are just being completely honest--even if it's brutally honest. :)

thelittleyorkie 10-30-2014 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4502025)
Because a yorkie is just a yorkie. Using words like teacup, micro and mini is just words bad breeders use to make money. They also normally use females that are under 5 pounds for breeding to make these smaller yorkies and that is very dangerous for the female yorkie and it's unethical.
Exactly--they try to add catchy phrases to attract attention--they will also use "rare" or "unique" or "special".


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