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MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 12:53 PM
honest thoughts w/o the uglies.
 
Two pups, different breeds, same age..... same day pick up? (No vacs)

Nancy1999 09-13-2014 01:13 PM
What's the question? Should you buy them? I think getting two pups at one time is usually a big mistake, I also think supporting poor breeding is enabling poor breeders to continue breeding. Why do you want to get them?

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 01:30 PM
The yorkie is the one I'm buying. I'm buying him because I am finally ready to be a pet owner again. I'm getting him from a gal at work. (BYB) didn't know that at the time, but it's clear now. At any rate, initially I was going to get a chihuahua. But that didn't pan out. So I found out about the yorkie and put a deposit on him. Weeks later, (3 days ago) I found out the Chihuahua came available again. (new owner backed out when she lost her job). My heart is set on my little man Noni, but I started with the Chihuahua. I'm not biting off more than I can chew, just want to know if it is safe. Is there anything I should consider.

Nancy1999 09-13-2014 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486582)
The yorkie is the one I'm buying. I'm buying him because I am finally ready to be a pet owner again. I'm getting him from a gal at work. (BYB) didn't know that at the time, but it's clear now. At any rate, initially I was going to get a chihuahua. But that didn't pan out. So I found out about the yorkie and put a deposit on him. Weeks later, (3 days ago) I found out the Chihuahua came available again. (new owner backed out when she lost her job). My heart is set on my little man Noni, but I started with the Chihuahua. I'm not biting off more than I can chew, just want to know if it is safe. Is there anything I should consider.
I bought my first purebred dog from a backyard breeder and it was a huge mistake, they don't do health testing, and they usually breed their dogs before they are even aware of their own dogs health problems. My beautiful pup had a genetic illness that caused him to be paralyzed, at the time, there was no treatment, but now I believe there might be treatment, but it's very expensive. Most insurance policies don't cover genetic conditions. Are you at work all day? Most puppies need someone there the first year, if I were you, I'd consider getting an older dog, who is already housebroken and can handle lots of alone time. Yorkies are great for someone who wants a newborn baby and is willing to devote the time. Once Yorkies are 5 or 6 they mellow out a little, but don't count on it. By the way, both of the breeds you are considering are prone to knee problems, and one knee surgery costs $1600 or more. I think the Chihuahua is probably a little cheaper to own, because Yorkies need regular grooming and haircuts. Chihuahua need regular groom, but at least they don't need expensive haircuts.

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4486584)
I bought my first purebred dog from a backyard breeder and it was a huge mistake, they don't do health testing, and they usually breed their dogs before they are even aware of their own dogs health problems. My beautiful pup had a genetic illness that caused him to be paralyzed, at the time, there was no treatment, but now I believe there might be treatment, but it's very expensive. Most insurance policies don't cover genetic conditions. Are you at work all day? Most puppies need someone there the first year, if I were you, I'd consider getting an older dog, who is already housebroken and can handle lots of alone time. Yorkies are great for someone who wants a newborn baby and is willing to devote the time. Once Yorkies are 5 or 6 they mellow out a little, but don't count on it. By the way, both of the breeds you are considering are prone to knee problems, and one knee surgery costs $1600 or more. I think the Chihuahua is probably a little cheaper to own, because Yorkies need regular grooming and haircuts. Chihuahua need regular groom, but at least they don't need expensive haircuts.
:mad: It isn't about money. I live comfortably. I know about the knees, the liver, the hypoglycemia, the grooming, and the insurance. All things I'm already planning to take on. I'm taking vacation from work (they pay you for that now) and altering my schedule so that someone is always home. I don't know what gave you the impression that I'm poor and unable to provide. I'm smart enough to know that animals, like children require time and money. This is the moms 4th and last litter. All healthy pups, I even met pups from the first litter. What I'm asking is, is it safe? I have had multiple dogs in my life time; but never 2 puppies from different litters at the same age.

marcie 09-13-2014 02:02 PM
I have a Chihuahua rescue who is 11 yrs old. Marcie is 8 yrs old.
Both are spade and are females with dominate personalities.


My Chihuahua has not had any health issues nor has Marcie.
With that being said they really do not play together. And
fights will break out on occasion. Both breeds seem to want to be
"top dog' so to speak and do not want to share attention.
However, I do know some Yorkies get along well with Chihuahua.

chickensmith 09-13-2014 02:10 PM
The one thing to be concerned about would be germs/diseases that could be brought from one to the other...have the pups had any of their vaccines? Are they close in age? We brought two kittens home from two different homes on the same day...and I didn't really think too much about it myself...but one had crusty eyes, within a few days he was fine, but the little girl caught his infection. Within the first week we had them at the vet twice. I would say if you are comfortable with where they are coming from, and willing to get them vet checked in the first couple days your only big problem will be potty training two pups instead of one!!:D with them both being boys it may be a good thing to bring them home on the same day so there isn't any territory issues! Good luck! :thumbup:

lisaly 09-13-2014 02:16 PM
I think safety should not be a concern because they are most likely a similar size. It's more difficult to train both at the same, but it is doable with love and dedication. I had three Yorkie babies within a year of each other who are at the Rainbow Bridge together. Ashley was with us for four months before we got Kiwi, and then almost a year later Gracie joined our family when she was six months old. Gracie was half of Kiwi's size, but Kiwi was very good with her sisters.

When I first started college my mom got a small Yorkie puppy, Tiffany. My sister had her heart set on a small shih tzu puppy, Mee-two, so my mother brought them both home the same day. Both were the same age, but Mee-two was twice her size. Mee-two was very easy going, though, and Tiffany definitely ran the show. They got along beautifully.

I wish you health, love, laughter, and happiness with your new little one(s).

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by chickensmith (Post 4486592)
The one thing to be concerned about would be germs/diseases that could be brought from one to the other...have the pups had any of their vaccines? Are they close in age? We brought two kittens home from two different homes on the same day...and I didn't really think too much about it myself...but one had crusty eyes, within a few days he was fine, but the little girl caught his infection. Within the first week we had them at the vet twice. I would say if you are comfortable with where they are coming from, and willing to get them vet checked in the first couple days your only big problem will be potty training two pups instead of one!!:D with them both being boys it may be a good thing to bring them home on the same day so there isn't any territory issues! Good luck! :thumbup:
Thank you chickensmith, the chihuahua is a week older than the yorkie. Neither have been vaccinated, but I already made the appointment with my vet for Noni the day after I pick him up.

Faboosh 09-13-2014 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486586)
:mad: It isn't about money. I live comfortably. I know about the knees, the liver, the hypoglycemia, the grooming, and the insurance. All things I'm already planning to take on. I'm taking vacation from work (they pay you for that now) and altering my schedule so that someone is always home. I don't know what gave you the impression that I'm poor and unable to provide. I'm smart enough to know that animals, like children require time and money. This is the moms 4th and last litter. All healthy pups, I even met pups from the first litter. What I'm asking is, is it safe? I have had multiple dogs in my life time; but never 2 puppies from different litters at the same age.
I don't think that's how she meant it at all, I kinda think you're taking her the wrong way. You're asking for our advice about taking on 2 puppies and that's all she's giving you: advice and knowledge about the situation that you may/may not be aware of- we have no way of knowing, so we put it out there for you...

Is this pup the same age as the 6 week old? If so, then you're definitely doubling your work load. Puppies are already so much work, then you add in young puppies and then you double it and I know that I wouldn't be up to the challenge and I'm a full-time online student (so I'm always home). I personally would go with the 1 that you really have your heart set on, which sounded like Noni, and take him and give him the best start you can at life. Then in a year, once he's fully trained and things have settled, bring him a brother/sister. That's just my personal thought, but it sounds to me like you really want both pups, so it's cool to go with it, just get that insurance and have fun with them.

ShowGirlLola 09-13-2014 02:35 PM
I'd get one, take it to the vet, then get the other and take it to the vet before they meet. That way you can be reasonably sure they won't get each other sick.

I think the main things that are harder with having 2 puppies at once are potty training and watching them.

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola (Post 4486600)
I'd get one, take it to the vet, then get the other and take it to the vet before they meet. That way you can be reasonably sure they won't get each other sick.

I think the main things that are harder with having 2 puppies at once are potty training and watching them.
There we go! That's what I'll do, if I decide to get both. Probably not, but maybe.

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Faboosh (Post 4486599)
I don't think that's how she meant it at all, I kinda think you're taking her the wrong way. You're asking for our advice about taking on 2 puppies and that's all she's giving you: advice and knowledge about the situation that you may/may not be aware of- we have no way of knowing, so we put it out there for you...
I'm sorry, I missed it. At what point was she answering my question? "Is it safe?" Because all I got out of that was "get a chihuahua, it's cheaper"

Faboosh 09-13-2014 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486604)
I'm sorry, I missed it. At what point was she answering my question? "Is it safe?" Because all I got out of that was "get a chihuahua, it's cheaper"

Whenever you ask for any advice, you're going to invite all sorts of thoughts and answers, whether it's what you wanted or not. That's the beauty of forums, sometime's you learn more than intended cuz people mention things you might not have thought of.

Try to see it from a positive perspective and not negative, I'm sure she didn't mean any harm.

chickensmith 09-13-2014 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola (Post 4486600)
I'd get one, take it to the vet, then get the other and take it to the vet before they meet. That way you can be reasonably sure they won't get each other sick.

I think the main things that are harder with having 2 puppies at once are potty training and watching them.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: That is a great idea!

Twocute 09-13-2014 03:24 PM
Got DeeDee and Taz the same day. Was worried about potty training two dogs, but it has worked out great. I wouldn't change a thing. DeeDee was 2-1/2 and Taz six months old. As an aside, several years ago I had a puppy and an older dog, and took in a year-old female rescue who was "paper trained." Well, the puppy kept shredding the newspaper and anything on it (poop everywhere) so I just decided to discontinue putting newspapers out and guess what -- dog never had accident, but went outside do do her "thing."

Lovetodream88 09-13-2014 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486582)
The yorkie is the one I'm buying. I'm buying him because I am finally ready to be a pet owner again. I'm getting him from a gal at work. (BYB) didn't know that at the time, but it's clear now. At any rate, initially I was going to get a chihuahua. But that didn't pan out. So I found out about the yorkie and put a deposit on him. Weeks later, (3 days ago) I found out the Chihuahua came available again. (new owner backed out when she lost her job). My heart is set on my little man Noni, but I started with the Chihuahua. I'm not biting off more than I can chew, just want to know if it is safe. Is there anything I should consider.
You would be supporting another bad breeder........

Lovetodream88 09-13-2014 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486586)
:mad: It isn't about money. I live comfortably. I know about the knees, the liver, the hypoglycemia, the grooming, and the insurance. All things I'm already planning to take on. I'm taking vacation from work (they pay you for that now) and altering my schedule so that someone is always home. I don't know what gave you the impression that I'm poor and unable to provide. I'm smart enough to know that animals, like children require time and money. This is the moms 4th and last litter. All healthy pups, I even met pups from the first litter. What I'm asking is, is it safe? I have had multiple dogs in my life time; but never 2 puppies from different litters at the same age.
No need to get nasty with someone trying to help. Not all jobs have paid vacations. My dad is a union operator engineer and he does not have paid vacation. As healthy as the pups may seem now you don't know what illnesses and issues are in there genetics. A lot of issues will not pop up until 2 years old. But I do know your getting the pup no matter what but I would not get the other pup because it sounds like that one will also be coming from a bad breeder so you could potentially be looking at some big issues. If one ends up coming with kennel cough or something they will very easily spread it to the other and if one happens to get parvo again the other will get it.

ladyjane 09-13-2014 05:05 PM
Sometimes "honest" is not "pretty" or "ugly". It is simply "honest".

I am staying out of this thread because quite frankly I cannot stand when people post with that type of opener. Tells me they really don't want "honest" and "honest" is all I have to offer...and my "honest" will be miscontrued as "ugly" on a topic like this one. OP, I think you know the answer to all your questions in that you say you have tons of experience. Not biting today. Good luck with your puppies

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4486623)
No need to get nasty with someone trying to help. Not all jobs have paid vacations. My dad is a union operator engineer and he does not have paid vacation. As healthy as the pups may seem now you don't know what illnesses and issues are in there genetics. A lot of issues will not pop up until 2 years old. But I do know your getting the pup no matter what but I would not get the other pup because it sounds like that one will also be coming from a bad breeder so you could potentially be looking at some big issues. If one ends up coming with kennel cough or something they will very easily spread it to the other and if one happens to get parvo again the other will get it.
These are the answers I was looking for. I explained that in my second post. I didn't get nasty, I replied what was on my mind without filter, just as I have seen done countless times since I joined. (what is good for the goose is good for the gander) Thanks for the answers, I will not be getting them at the same time.

yorkiemom76 09-13-2014 05:17 PM
My biggest concern would be the lack of vaccines for either puppy. If you're going to bring them home at the same time, I would keep them separated at least until their first vet check. The only thing worse than having 1 puppy with parvo, would be having 2 puppies with parvo and I believe it can take up to 10 days for symptoms to start after exposure so one could be exposed before you pick it up and not get sick until it's been at your house for a while. Enjoy your new babies. :)

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjan e;4 486626
Sometimes "honest" is not "pretty" or "ugly". It is simply "honest".

I am staying out of this thread because quite frankly I cannot stand when people post with that type of opener. Tells me they really don't want "honest" and "honest" is all I have to offer...and my "honest" will be miscontrued as "ugly" on a topic like this one. OP, I think you know the answer to all your questions in that you say you have tons of experience. Not biting today. Good luck with your puppies
Lol. Y'all crack me up, staying out of this thread, but here you are. There is a difference between an honest opinion and being downright condescending I was asking if it would be safe to have two puppies from the different breeders. I was not however, asking for opinions on whether or not I can afford it, if I could not afford it, I would not attempt to do it. And I never said I "have tons of experience". If that were true, I wouldn't have came here looking for answers and "help"

ladyjane 09-13-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486630)

Lol. Y'all crack me up, staying out of this thread, but here you are. There is a difference between an honest opinion and being downright condescending I was asking if it would be safe to have two puppies from the different breeders. I was not however, asking for opinions on whether or not I can afford it, if I could not afford it, I would not attempt to do it. And I never said I "have tons of experience". If that were true, I wouldn't have came here looking for answers and "help"
Let me clarify my post to say I am not going to respond to your questions because my honesty is probably not what you are looking for. :) But, I felt a need to say that your subject line was a bit ridiculous. Just my honesty, yet again rearing its ugly head.

Yorkiemom1 09-13-2014 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4486626)
Sometimes "honest" is not "pretty" or "ugly". It is simply "honest".

I am staying out of this thread because quite frankly I cannot stand when people post with that type of opener. Tells me they really don't want "honest" and "honest" is all I have to offer...and my "honest" will be miscontrued as "ugly" on a topic like this one. OP, I think you know the answer to all your questions in that you say you have tons of experience. Not biting today. Good luck with your puppies
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

MaWilliams3 09-13-2014 06:06 PM
Well, now that the band wagons have circled, I see I'll get little help and plenty - o - criticism. :-)

R-Teddy 09-13-2014 06:15 PM
I just have to say that THIS is why for long I stayed away from yorkie talk. I thought things had changed. perhaps not.

yorkiemini 09-13-2014 07:20 PM
There is a general safety factor that is embraced by most vets and experienced owners that a puppy should not be exposed to additional environments (I.e. walks and other pet exposures) with other pups until 2 weeks after their final vaccination series.

You might ask your vet about his/her thoughts on that.

Lovetodream88 09-13-2014 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkiemom76 (Post 4486629)
My biggest concern would be the lack of vaccines for either puppy. If you're going to bring them home at the same time, I would keep them separated at least until their first vet check. The only thing worse than having 1 puppy with parvo, would be having 2 puppies with parvo and I believe it can take up to 10 days for symptoms to start after exposure so one could be exposed before you pick it up and not get sick until it's been at your house for a while. Enjoy your new babies. :)
I think even them being in the same house they would both end up with Parvo if one had it and it was introduced into the house. Parvo is just terrible nasty stuff.

Lovetodream88 09-13-2014 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MaWilliams3 (Post 4486630)

Lol. Y'all crack me up, staying out of this thread, but here you are. There is a difference between an honest opinion and being downright condescending I was asking if it would be safe to have two puppies from the different breeders. I was not however, asking for opinions on whether or not I can afford it, if I could not afford it, I would not attempt to do it. And I never said I "have tons of experience". If that were true, I wouldn't have came here looking for answers and "help"
A lot of people come here and don't have the money it's something old time members see a lot so it was just a warning it was never her saying you can't afforded it. Honestly the paying for the stuff is not the hardest part to me it's having to watch your baby suffer so I always try to warn about both money and just how much it sucks watching some thing you love hurting so bad. A lot of people really don't know how much things can end up costing. It really was not an attack on you. Heck I have had dogs my whole life and never knew how much Callie's surgeys would ad up. We have seen so many people whoes dogs need surgery or even just general vet car and there owners not have the money to do it.

Lovetodream88 09-13-2014 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Teddy (Post 4486641)
I just have to say that THIS is why for long I stayed away from yorkie talk. I thought things had changed. perhaps not.
I think you have to see when people ask for only "nice" posts however they post it, it riles people up. It's like telling people how to post and that never goes well.


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