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yorkietalkjilly 08-28-2014 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4482220)
I don't agree totally. Reposting an opinion may not affect the person who started the thread, but there are SO many other people reading and maybe it is something that they can use. I repeat my opinions often with the hope that someone can use them....if not, that is their choice. I suppose I like beating my head against walls. LOL :)
I agree. I can't help sometimes re-stating a post or thought if I think this post, unlike the original one I posted pages back in a thread, might be the one someone reads and retains, yet all are free to read and ignore any and all opinions.

Silver Lace 09-10-2014 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kpattray (Post 4481632)
My Maltese had all of these problems as well. I suspect she was a victim of a puppy mill. Diagnosed by three separate vets, including a specialist, who all wanted to do surgery on her LP. Incredibly, she lived 12 years without the surgery because both times in her life when the limping began, I started her on Dasaquin. Within two weeks she was actively back to normal. No surgery!
Hi,
I have a question for you. My Yorkie who is 3.5 lbs or so has this luxating patella as well. He is 4 years old now and has never shown any symptoms before this Saturday 09/06. He has not been limping I would say but has been holding up his right back paw sometimes and has acted like he was in pain. When I took him to the vet today he did not act like he had been and the vet could not find anything wrong except to say he still had a mild case of the luxating patella and it could act up from time to time. He did not think he would benefit from a supplement but I am wondering. What would your opinion on the matter be? Years ago I had a poodle who had the luxating patella and was on supplements that I feel really helped her so I am wondering now. Thank you for any suggestions you may want to offer me.

Yoshismom1969 09-10-2014 01:07 PM
It may have just popped out of joint and by the time you got to the vet it was back in place? I have a tiny Chihuahua 2 1/2 lbs that has grade 2 luxating patella in both back legs and I have just started her on a joint supplement. I am using the one from Mercola.com. My vet told me a supplement definitely could not hurt

Silver Lace 09-10-2014 03:08 PM
Thank you yoshismom1969,
I did not know there were grades of the patella. What is grade two that your little one has? So do you think the supplement is helping her in any way? I guess doctors all feel differently about supplements for people as well as dogs. I suppose it could have popped back in before we got to the Vets. Isn't that always the way though. I had a dog a few years ago that was having some problem with her walking or something and once we got to the vets she was just fine. Felt like an idiot for sure.

Yoshismom1969 09-10-2014 05:09 PM
Grade 2 is not horrible and as of yet she is still functioning pretty well on her legs. I have been told that her legs are so tiny that no way a specialist would ever do surgery if need be in the future so it keeps me worried. She hasnt been on the supplements long enough to really tell much but I have heard good things about them. I have also heard exercise esp. swimming can help strengthen them. However when she swims both of her legs go up funny and out of place so that has not helped her much :-(

Lovetodream88 09-10-2014 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Lace (Post 4485805)
Hi,
I have a question for you. My Yorkie who is 3.5 lbs or so has this luxating patella as well. He is 4 years old now and has never shown any symptoms before this Saturday 09/06. He has not been limping I would say but has been holding up his right back paw sometimes and has acted like he was in pain. When I took him to the vet today he did not act like he had been and the vet could not find anything wrong except to say he still had a mild case of the luxating patella and it could act up from time to time. He did not think he would benefit from a supplement but I am wondering. What would your opinion on the matter be? Years ago I had a poodle who had the luxating patella and was on supplements that I feel really helped her so I am wondering now. Thank you for any suggestions you may want to offer me.
Your better off getting an orthopedic surgeons opinion. Holding it up and limp occasionally is from LP.

Lovetodream88 09-10-2014 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Lace (Post 4485864)
Thank you yoshismom1969,
I did not know there were grades of the patella. What is grade two that your little one has? So do you think the supplement is helping her in any way? I guess doctors all feel differently about supplements for people as well as dogs. I suppose it could have popped back in before we got to the Vets. Isn't that always the way though. I had a dog a few years ago that was having some problem with her walking or something and once we got to the vets she was just fine. Felt like an idiot for sure.
Most of the time it pops out and then back in. There are no study's saying supplements really help. For some they do and for some they don't so some vets say to try some don't. Even if it's a low grade it can still cause issues. One of the biggest issues is the LP causing ACL tears. I have been through LP surgery with my dog on both back legs. It's tough so I only suggested to do it if it's really necessary so you really might want to just do a consult with an orthopedic surgeon and they can tell you how bad it is and what they suggest.

Lovetodream88 09-10-2014 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoshismom1969 (Post 4485882)
Grade 2 is not horrible and as of yet she is still functioning pretty well on her legs. I have been told that her legs are so tiny that no way a specialist would ever do surgery if need be in the future so it keeps me worried. She hasnt been on the supplements long enough to really tell much but I have heard good things about them. I have also heard exercise esp. swimming can help strengthen them. However when she swims both of her legs go up funny and out of place so that has not helped her much :-(
Did you talk to an actual orthopedic surgeon that just sounds painful.

SirTeddykins 09-10-2014 08:58 PM
to the op-


I went to a Crufts show breeder and she offered me the smallest dog after asking me what was important to me ie gender, size etc.


I told her that I didn't care what size my Yorkie ended up - I just wanted HIM to be happy and healthy.


He is now 11 months and 3lbs 12oz (as of yesterday). I don't know how he compares to his siblings as I didn't ask. His brothers/sisters were sold and he was the last one running around with his mom, dad, aunt and uncle. So, I'm not sure if he's a "runt" or just small as most Yorkies are "small" compared to other breeds.


I would have to say that, if you are truly looking for a pet, and not a vessel by which to show off to friends/family i.e. "look at my mini dog", you will research the breed and the breeder and the best sized dog will usually find you.


That's just my take...I'm glad I have Teddy - I just hate his cotton fur! lol! But I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Silver Lace 09-11-2014 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoshismom1969 (Post 4485882)
Grade 2 is not horrible and as of yet she is still functioning pretty well on her legs. I have been told that her legs are so tiny that no way a specialist would ever do surgery if need be in the future so it keeps me worried. She hasnt been on the supplements long enough to really tell much but I have heard good things about them. I have also heard exercise esp. swimming can help strengthen them. However when she swims both of her legs go up funny and out of place so that has not helped her much :-(
Thank you so very much for taking the time to answer my post. What your little girl has does not sound good at all. I am so sorry she is having this problem. That sounds bad the way her legs do when she swims but MAYBE it will help to strengthen them even if they do act weird right now. I sure am no authority on it just my 2 cents opinion. I hope she gets better on the supplements and the exercise and all. It hurts to see them suffer when there is little or nothing we can do I know. All the best to you.

Silver Lace 09-11-2014 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4485892)
Most of the time it pops out and then back in. There are no study's saying supplements really help. For some they do and for some they don't so some vets say to try some don't. Even if it's a low grade it can still cause issues. One of the biggest issues is the LP causing ACL tears. I have been through LP surgery with my dog on both back legs. It's tough so I only suggested to do it if it's really necessary so you really might want to just do a consult with an orthopedic surgeon and they can tell you how bad it is and what they suggest.
Thank you Lovetodreams for answering my post. I had a toy poodle years ago that had this luxating patella and it did just what you said and popped out and them popped back in so I am familiar with this problem. She never got really bad with the problem fortunately and she was on a supplement the vet prescribed for her and it did help her. What I am not aware of I think is what is ACL tears. He is a different dog than she was and much smaller so it may or may not affect him the same way it did her.Hopefully it will not be a major problem for him. He is now over 4years old and the first time this has bothered him.

Silver Lace 09-11-2014 08:07 AM
Hello,
I think I got confused when writing back to everyone. The reason I took Joey in to the vet was because he had somehow injured his back right paw and was holding it up sometimes and it even bled one time so I thought he had somehow injured it when I had not seen him do it. That was hurting him for some reason. When I took him in to the vet he checked his foot out and also checked the rest of his leg and said he could see nothing wrong with his foot anymore but he did have a mild case of luxating patella. This is why I was wondering about the supplement because I had been reminded he had a mild case of luxating patella. He has never had a problem in that area. My one toy poodle I had was on supplements and I believe it was because of her luxating patella so I just wanted to know if it would help him. His vet he saw that day did not think so but I just wanted others opinions on it who had given it to their dogs.Sorry if I confused anyone. Thanks for everyone's replies to my query.

Yoshismom1969 09-11-2014 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4485893)
Did you talk to an actual orthopedic surgeon that just sounds painful.
My vet did not feel it was needed yet but we are kind of watching her. She does not appear to be in any pain. He told me not to let her swim anymore as that could worsen the problem as she her back legs are not working correctly in the water. So far we are just using the joint supplement and exercise to help her. She will not walk on my pergo flooring because she slips and it is a mental thing as if she does not think about it she will walk on the floor but as soon as she remembers or there is a lot of floor to go she will kind of freeze up. So we have rugs everywhere so she will walk through the house.

Lovetodream88 09-11-2014 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Lace (Post 4486020)
Thank you Lovetodreams for answering my post. I had a toy poodle years ago that had this luxating patella and it did just what you said and popped out and them popped back in so I am familiar with this problem. She never got really bad with the problem fortunately and she was on a supplement the vet prescribed for her and it did help her. What I am not aware of I think is what is ACL tears. He is a different dog than she was and much smaller so it may or may not affect him the same way it did her.Hopefully it will not be a major problem for him. He is now over 4years old and the first time this has bothered him.
A lot of little dogs who I have heard of getting ACL tears it's because of LP. Mine had a partial ACL tear and grade 3 LP four years ago so we did the surgery to fix the ACL and the LP at the same. Then several months ago she was showing pain with her other back leg so we had to do LP surgery on it.

Lovetodream88 09-11-2014 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Lace (Post 4486066)
Hello,
I think I got confused when writing back to everyone. The reason I took Joey in to the vet was because he had somehow injured his back right paw and was holding it up sometimes and it even bled one time so I thought he had somehow injured it when I had not seen him do it. That was hurting him for some reason. When I took him in to the vet he checked his foot out and also checked the rest of his leg and said he could see nothing wrong with his foot anymore but he did have a mild case of luxating patella. This is why I was wondering about the supplement because I had been reminded he had a mild case of luxating patella. He has never had a problem in that area. My one toy poodle I had was on supplements and I believe it was because of her luxating patella so I just wanted to know if it would help him. His vet he saw that day did not think so but I just wanted others opinions on it who had given it to their dogs.Sorry if I confused anyone. Thanks for everyone's replies to my query.
It might and it might not you never really know.

Lovetodream88 09-11-2014 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoshismom1969 (Post 4486087)
My vet did not feel it was needed yet but we are kind of watching her. She does not appear to be in any pain. He told me not to let her swim anymore as that could worsen the problem as she her back legs are not working correctly in the water. So far we are just using the joint supplement and exercise to help her. She will not walk on my pergo flooring because she slips and it is a mental thing as if she does not think about it she will walk on the floor but as soon as she remembers or there is a lot of floor to go she will kind of freeze up. So we have rugs everywhere so she will walk through the house.
It sounds like it could be painful.

westmo 09-11-2014 12:31 PM
I have a very small one and a bigger one. The small one had some health issues when she was little, but she is healthier than my bigger girl now.

Buster Brown 09-12-2014 11:15 AM
I would be a little concerned about her not swimming correctly due to having bone growth issues. Buster came from a bad breeder and his leg bones are improperly formed. He was diagnosed at one as having LP in his back legs and incorrectly formed front legs so he has arthritis in his front legs. When I took him into the Orthopedic Vet for his LP consult they also checked his front legs and determined the misalignment of his wrists. He looks a little bow legged in front. It was determined his front legs issues could not be resolved surgically. The Surgeon told me that running and playing especially running around corners on wood/lino floors puts a lot of pressure on Busters knees and can be painful for him and perhaps make his knee issues worse. I have found with Buster if he is reluctant to do something or holds up a paw that he is experiencing pain.


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