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I know what hydrocephallus is but where are the studies that this is commonly found in small yorkies |
This is off the topic but it is a good representation of what happens on here. There was some speculation that partis and biewers could develop blindness because they carried the pie bald gene. There were no studies to back this up but when one biewer ended up being blind on here the people who dont believe in breeding went around here spouting as fact that the pie bald gene in partis and biewers can cause blinndness |
ChaChi obviously you haven't read the Lynzypedia Study on Yorkies.....lol 1000's of Yorkies end up with Hydrocephalus because there are far more unethical, byb's and puppymills than there are ethical/reputable breeders. Lately I have found that even some of the well known reputable breeders aren't as ethical as they would like us to believe SURPRISSSSSEEEE Not.... These POS breeders breed for tiny, how? They force tiny females to breed and deliver tiny unhealthy dogs orrrrrrrrr, they wean too soon and withhold proper nutrition from puppies to keep them small....they intentionally do these things all in the name of producing a TEACUP YORKIE (insert puke) and many other worse things..1000's of these pups don't survive and 1000's end up here in YT's sick and injured and 1000's exist in the real world that many of you refuse to acknowledge exist... Reputable/ethical breeders do not necessarily have unhealthy teacups all the time, but sometimes they do.... This includes, shunts, hydrocephalus and all the other atrocious diseases an defects that occur in the name of TEACUP yorkies.... You want a study? Go do one to see for yourself, get back to us and let us know what you find. |
There is so much "hear say" with various medical issues. That is the reason I originally posted. I want to know from owners what they personally experienced with the health of their small and tiny pets. I realize that not every dog, nor person, has perfect health. I just wanted to know if the smaller dogs are more prone to issues and if owners have experienced this or us it mostly speculation? |
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So what did the cause the blindness? And what caused the deafness and leukeimia and heart defects in my Biewers???? I even had a breeder tell me she never heard of a pup getting leukeimia in any breed.........I guess I have 2 truly unique dead pups... |
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If you are truly looking for a small dog find a reputable breeder, after she screens you thoroughly she may give you one of her few tiny pups. Don't purchase from any breeder who breeds for tiny, teacup etc... there are 1000's of threads here pro and con for tiny and big...there are thousands of healthy and not healthy tiny Yorkie stories. Your chances of getting a healthy Yorkie big or small all depends on the breeder you choose. Good Luck and keep us posted. |
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Sometimes good old fashioned commonsense is better than no study being done..... My human being female friend carries a gene for Cerebral Palsy and any son she has WILL have it....therefore she decided not to breed/reproduce. POS breeders say: "I have a Yorkie that throws teacups with hydrocephalus but I'm going to keep breeding for the money anyway".....the risk either way is no concern to them as long as they can realize profit, and they do....... |
The fact is that hydro pups do not thrive. They're smaller than their littermates & they have slow/ stunted growth. IDK what else you want, the facts are there. |
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This is what has been recommended all along. If you want a tiny go to a breeder that is a reputable breeder and wait for a tiny. Reputable breeders always use larger females with smaller males, so yes they will have some smaller pups. As far as the piebald gene, if you research it is connected to deafness in dogs and a deaf pup may show up. It doesn't mean every pup will be deaf but it increases the risk. Buying a pup is always a risk, I would encourage everyone to do all they can to get a healthy pup first. You can still have issues but at least you know you did all you could. |
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From what I've learned in dealing with this issue, it is all about the intent of the breeder and whether or not producing a tiny puppy for maximum dollar return or producing a puppy that will improve the breed is uppermost in the breeder's mind. It seems to me that those who breed for tiny size, large heads, short, short muzzles and large eyes - breeding for looks alone - don't really care about the health of the parents or the breeding pair but just go for what's "teacup cute" and will sell early for a lot of money. But the reputable breeder who is only breeding to make this breed healthier and producing a litter with a great temperament will carefully study the genetics of conformation and genetic-heredity of each of the lines of the dogs they are considering breeding plus those potential breeders' health and temperament and breed only dogs together who will create sound, hardy puppies. That is why it stands to reason that the intent of the breeder of standard-sized Yorkies - and that standard size is still a pretty small dog after all - from reputable breeders would tend to be hardier, temperate dogs. |
As always, our argument is unethical breeder VS ethical breeder. Reputable breeder VS unscrupulous breeder. It's been said over & over, good breeders will have tinies, not all the time, but it does happen. An experienced breeder knows this, who throws tinies. A healthy 7# female that free whelps (no c-sections) can give birth to a healthy 3 oz pup that will grow to be a healthy 3#'s. It's been frowned upon, those that purposely breed 4# & under females to get tiny puppies. Put the female's life @ risk, repeated c-sections, where their tummy gets hard like a turtle from scar tissue (I've seen this from a retired breeder). Pups are @ a dangerously low weight @ birth, under 2 oz even 1 oz, putting them @ risk. A breeder that puts their dogs' lives @ risk is IMO, practicing animal cruelty. Shame on those people that keep these unethical breeders in business! Shame on them for keeping their eyes closed...all bc they want a tiny accessory to carry around in their designer doggie bags. Paying puppy millers $4000+, do you know they perform c-sections on their females w/out any anesthesia? Unbelievably barbaric, & you still choose to be blind. You also don't hear about all the horror stories of pups born w/cleft palates & dying w/in a few days...it's all over FB.:thumbdown It might seem rare, but it happens all too often. You'd think they would have the decency to spay & neuter the breeding pair...no, they just keep going. Why? Someone that was defending this animal abuser said, 'Well, someone's got to breed so we can have these cute Yorkies!' Ok, rant over whew! Quote:
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Well I dont like it when people give opinions that differ from facts but I cant control how anyone posts and I know that. I will explain my positions though and let the chips fall where they may |
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o·pin·ion əˈpinyən/ noun noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. I know I have given my opinion many times based more on my emotional views based on my experiences up to that point which may not be the truth but might be my truth until I learn otherwise. I will listen to other people and their advice and opinions and then take my time to make my decision based on the knowledge I have and what I feel is best for me at that time. Sometimes it takes more than one thread for people to learn so reposting an opinion when the OP isn't open to listening is like beating your head against a wall. |
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