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megansmomma 03-26-2014 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pink66 (Post 4411810)
That is a very harsh blanket statement made to someone just looking for advice. It's really not necessary to immediately jump on everybody just asking questions! If I was the OP I would be horribly offended and would most likely never see the positive side of this forum.
Taylor, I know you love this breed, but I really find this statement inappropriate! Who are you to judge someone's dog like this?
A very large portion of the dog population is NOT breeding quality. It's not harsh it's a fact and the reason there are so many sick dogs with genetic issues. Even show breeders will pet out the dogs that don't make the breeding "cut". I love my Bogey to death.....he's in my avatar. He's a totally blonde adorable little Yorkie. He's temperament is nothing short of sweet, mild and loving. But he has LP issues to start. That alone should eliminate him from being bred. Taylor might be a little too blunt but I think she is overall correct.

ladyjane 03-26-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4411816)
Hi Brian and welcome to YT :) I see that you are located in TX. I'm a member of Yorkie Haven Rescue (aka YHR) that is base primarily in TX, LA and NC. There is a huge overpopulation of Yorkies in TX in particular. It's actually very sad to learn of all of the Yorkies that are PTS on a daily bases in your state because of the over population by breeding. I'm in IL and things are far different here in the Midwest. There is hardly ever a Yorkie to be found in a shelter or rescue in this area. It's all the supply and demand.....oversupply=PTS :(

If you love your little girl please reconsider the risks to her in breeding. Additionally, have you thought about where you would find a male to mate with? maybe watch a few YouTubes of breeding dogs. It's all very technical if you really want to do it correctly. Then you have puppies that might not go to homes as loving as yours. Personally, I wouldn't want to be responsible for creating lives that I couldn't be responsible for after they left my care.

Please don't think that I'm antibreeder because that is furthest from the truth. I love puppies and think that it should be done responsibly and when there is a "need". More dogs of any breed are not needed in some areas of the country and IMO TX falls into that category. When there are dogs dying every day after being abandoned by their owners. It really is very sad :(
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

People really do not know the plight of this breed....and yes, some states are more out of control than others. When I lived in NJ years ago I waited for two years to find a yorkie mix! Yes, there are other breeds as well...but the topic here is yorkies.

Down here in Texas, I could find someone a yorkie every single day in one of our shelters. It is horrific. And, anyone who thinks they will breed and NOT have one of their pups end up in a shelter need to think again. I have seen it happen to breeders I believe are reputable. People DO dump dogs a LOT...more than anyone can imagine. You can make them sign contracts to contact you but when the day comes that they are fed up, they will simply dump their dog...and sadly it may be the streets. I have two pups in my home right now that were found on the streets after being hit by cars. Yorkies!

ladyjane 03-26-2014 05:54 PM
Also want to add this for the OP. Not only should you be prepared to possibly lose a puppy...you could lose your female. If you decide to go ahead and breed her, please be sure you know ALL there is to know prior to doing it. Be ready not only to help her and her puppies....but also for any emergency that may arise. It could end up costing you thousands if she ends up needing emergency care and a C-section.

I have had seasoned breeders tell me stories that made my hair stand on end...whelping is not always a simple thing. Scary stuff.

megansmomma 03-26-2014 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by claudia1149 (Post 4411796)
sorry for all the negative feedback. I am a home breeder of yorkies. I love every minute of it. I do spend quite a bit of money on prenatal care, but I want to make sure my babies and my momma are healthy and safe. I am happy to answer any questions you might have. If you do go forward, I would suggest careful screening of the families that want your puppies. I would never sell to someone with toddlers, or to someone that could not afford the care they need and deserve. Yes, you always run the risk of losing a baby, but they joy of watching their development, socializing them, and see how rapidly they change is beyond measure. So often people do all they can to discourage you from breeding, but, if they discouraged everyone, how would they have these wonderful dogs. I agree that sometimes people are more dubious of ckc registry or apri. But you can do the research and gain full knowledge of you pups heritage.
Since it's been a while that I was off the boards I like to look at members that I don't recognize. Since you are a breeder and we share the same state I did a quick search of your previous posts and I found this interesting :confused:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...-can-i-do.html

Maximo 03-26-2014 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4411821)
And, anyone who thinks they will breed and NOT have one of their pups end up in a shelter need to think again. I have seen it happen to breeders I believe are reputable. People DO dump dogs a LOT...more than anyone can imagine. You can make them sign contracts to contact you but when the day comes that they are fed up, they will simply dump their dog...and sadly it may be the streets. I have two pups in my home right now that were found on the streets after being hit by cars. Yorkies!
The pictures I see on Facebook of Yorkies in shelters/pounds backs this up. I'm seeing more that I am betting are well bred Yorkies based on the faces, structure, and coats.

Lovetodream88 03-26-2014 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pink66 (Post 4411810)
That is a very harsh blanket statement made to someone just looking for advice. It's really not necessary to immediately jump on everybody just asking questions! If I was the OP I would be horribly offended and would most likely never see the positive side of this forum.
Taylor, I know you love this breed, but I really find this statement inappropriate! Who are you to judge someone's dog like this?
I am judging by the bases of good breeders. They breed to better the breed and you don't breed a dog with a color fault or who is registered with a crappy registry because you don't know for sure that the pup isn't a mix. How I said it might have been harsh but it's true. If we don't stop breeding dogs that have no business being breed we are going to continue to kill this breed, have yorkies that don't look like yorkies, and continue to have unhealthy yorkies.

Bbasc1 03-27-2014 12:43 AM
Yes pink and I posted something extremely harsh as a response but it was flagged and removed... Nothing productive has come out of this blog until now. I'm considering just deleting this... I know it says I love in texas... I'm in the rmy right now I'm not planning on breeding possibly until I go home to california.

Lovetodream88 03-27-2014 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasc1 (Post 4411906)
Yes pink and I posted something extremely harsh as a response but it was flagged and removed... Nothing productive has come out of this blog until now. I'm considering just deleting this... I know it says I love in texas... I'm in the rmy right now I'm not planning on breeding possibly until I go home to california.
The truth is not all rainbows and sunshine. I encourage anyone who wants to breed just for no reason to go to all there local shelters especially kill shelters and see how many are in line to be put to sleep that day because of to much indescrimnent breeding.

yorkiemom76 03-27-2014 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4411822)
Also want to add this for the OP. Not only should you be prepared to possibly lose a puppy...you could lose your female. If you decide to go ahead and breed her, please be sure you know ALL there is to know prior to doing it. Be ready not only to help her and her puppies....but also for any emergency that may arise. It could end up costing you thousands if she ends up needing emergency care and a C-section.

I have had seasoned breeders tell me stories that made my hair stand on end...whelping is not always a simple thing. Scary stuff.
:thumbup:

Bbasc1 03-27-2014 03:45 AM
I'm aware it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Honestly that was the who purpose of my origonal post... I wanna hear the good bad and the ugly. But I can't stand blatant disrespect towards me. I put my life on the line everyday as a soldier in the army and it pains me to see how people talk to others. If it weren't for people defending our freedom we wouldn't have a voice so use the one we have now to be nice to others :)

Lovetodream88 03-27-2014 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasc1 (Post 4411934)
I'm aware it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Honestly that was the who purpose of my origonal post... I wanna hear the good bad and the ugly. But I can't stand blatant disrespect towards me. I put my life on the line everyday as a soldier in the army and it pains me to see how people talk to others. If it weren't for people defending our freedom we wouldn't have a voice so use the one we have now to be nice to others :)
I wasn't being disrespectful.

ladyjane 03-27-2014 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasc1 (Post 4411934)
I'm aware it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Honestly that was the who purpose of my origonal post... I wanna hear the good bad and the ugly. But I can't stand blatant disrespect towards me. I put my life on the line everyday as a soldier in the army and it pains me to see how people talk to others. If it weren't for people defending our freedom we wouldn't have a voice so use the one we have now to be nice to others :)

I have not seen any blatant disrespect here. Sometimes we just don't want to hear some things no matter whether we believe so or not.

Thank you for your service!! Yes, that is the point. We all have freedom of speech. The problem on an internet forum sometimes is that people read into what is being said and think there is a tone that really was not the intent. My advice is to take what you can use and leave the rest alone.

megansmomma 03-27-2014 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bbasc1 (Post 4411934)
I'm aware it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Honestly that was the who purpose of my origonal post... I wanna hear the good bad and the ugly. But I can't stand blatant disrespect towards me. I put my life on the line everyday as a soldier in the army and it pains me to see how people talk to others. If it weren't for people defending our freedom we wouldn't have a voice so use the one we have now to be nice to others :)
First, :flag: thank you for your service :thumbup:

I haven't seen any disrespect here just our opinions on the number of dogs being bred & shelters. You can't just delete a thread that you started the forum doesn't work that way. You can ask that it be locked pm PM a moderator but that's about it.

Some of us have been around this forum for a very long time-years- and have seen breeding go very badly and momma die, puppies die and whelping turn into emergency situation very quickly. Then add to that the work involved in a litter after and the additional expenses of vetting puppies, selling puppies to the right people and etc. When you look at all of those things in the larger picture it starts to look less and less appealing. What is your reason for wanting to breed your dog? <---- this is the ultimate question you should ask yourself. If it's because you think she's got a great personality and temperament is that truly enough of a justification? The benefit to you should outweighs the negative in the end. After the puppies are gone what exactly have you gained from having a litter of puppies?

Micah my love 03-27-2014 06:47 AM
Hi Brian welcome to YT..and thank you for helping to defend our country

Jewel25 03-27-2014 02:29 PM
I am really glad I found this thread. I too was contemplating about breed my girl.


my reasoning......... she is AKC Reg. and didn't want to break her family line up. Now I need to educated myself on the risk of breeding her.


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