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gracielove 10-16-2013 03:50 PM

No, it's not going to be easy but I can tell you that both cats and dogs will respond to consistent training. When Gracie was a pup and we had those litters of kittens I thought it would never end. Between learning to deal with her terrier disposition with the added plus of the distraction of the kittens and Mother Cat things were kind of wild around here. Hang in there. You have to let them know that you are the boss and you really mean it. I used to try not to laugh when Gracie would give me that look when I was trying to be the disciplinarian. Sometimes it's hard to be the boss when they are just so darn cute!

Sunnydayz 10-16-2013 04:34 PM

Gizmo is actually pretty good other than responding to Lucy's taunting by barking at her. Lucy the cat is the major issue haha. I hand raised her from 2 days old, and I think because of that for 10 years she has never actually seen herself as a cat. I think that's the major problem here. She is not like an ordinary cat, she rides in the car, walks on a leash, when she could walk further she loved going to the dog park :-) she also jumps in my bath with me and wants to be involved in everything. What is really funny, is I have raised six litters of feral kittens and she's always been the mom to the babies, but with the full grown cats, she does not interact with them at all, she totally ignores them, like she is not one of them.

When I first got Gizmo she was great at being nice to him and running around playing with him. Once one of the other cats, bruiser, started showing interest in getting to know Gizmo, she stopped it by teaching Gizmo how to bark by taunting him, which scares bruiser to death. I think she thinks Gizmo is her puppy, even over us lol. It's like she's trying to overturn my training of Gizmo, with her own training of him. Gizmo was doing awesome, and still is when she's not around :-) he does know how to play fetch, sit and stay, use his potty pads (as long as Lucy has not stolen them from the holders). But it's like I have to keep retraining Gizmo because she gets in the middle and diverts his attention, so I have to chase Lucy upstairs to stop her :-) I can say, if you google, you won't find much info on how to teach your cat, that the puppy is not hers :-) I really can't use anything that makes loud noise, as Lucy is not afraid of anything, she will even go after the biggest dog at the dog park fearlessly, the noise also gives Gizmo the zoomies and makes him even more excited and playful, and loud. While on the other hand it scares the other 2 cats to death, to where they will only come down stairs to go potty in their box and eat, otherwise those 2 stay upstairs.

As I write this, Gizmo is sitting politely in his pen, with a toy in his mouth waiting for me to let him out, as I just got home from the doctors. Lucy is also waiting for me to let him out sitting right at the bottom of the stairs haha. The good news is I tested Lucy while I went to the drs, by leaving a potty pad out on a holder, that Gizmo had went potty on, and I came home and it was still in its holder. Another funny thing is this morning when I squirted Gizmo with the water bottle, Lucy was the one o leave him lone, almost like she did not want her puppy to get in trouble? Very strange lol. Hopefully Lucy will be good if I show her the water bottle and she won't want her puppy sprayed again lol. You really would need to meet Lucy o now what I mean when I say she is not a normal cat haha. Hopefully things get better, they seem to be right this minutes:-)

Thanks so much everybody for the help :-)

gracielove 10-16-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnydayz (Post 4333819)
Gizmo is actually pretty good other than responding to Lucy's taunting by barking at her. Lucy the cat is the major issue haha. I hand raised her from 2 days old, and I think because of that for 10 years she has never actually seen herself as a cat. I think that's the major problem here. She is not like an ordinary cat, she rides in the car, walks on a leash, when she could walk further she loved going to the dog park :-) she also jumps in my bath with me and wants to be involved in everything. What is really funny, is I have raised six litters of feral kittens and she's always been the mom to the babies, but with the full grown cats, she does not interact with them at all, she totally ignores them, like she is not one of them.

When I first got Gizmo she was great at being nice to him and running around playing with him. Once one of the other cats, bruiser, started showing interest in getting to know Gizmo, she stopped it by teaching Gizmo how to bark by taunting him, which scares bruiser to death. I think she thinks Gizmo is her puppy, even over us lol. It's like she's trying to overturn my training of Gizmo, with her own training of him. Gizmo was doing awesome, and still is when she's not around :-) he does know how to play fetch, sit and stay, use his potty pads (as long as Lucy has not stolen them from the holders). But it's like I have to keep retraining Gizmo because she gets in the middle and diverts his attention, so I have to chase Lucy upstairs to stop her :-) I can say, if you google, you won't find much info on how to teach your cat, that the puppy is not hers :-) I really can't use anything that makes loud noise, as Lucy is not afraid of anything, she will even go after the biggest dog at the dog park fearlessly, the noise also gives Gizmo the zoomies and makes him even more excited and playful, and loud. While on the other hand it scares the other 2 cats to death, to where they will only come down stairs to go potty in their box and eat, otherwise those 2 stay upstairs.

As I write this, Gizmo is sitting politely in his pen, with a toy in his mouth waiting for me to let him out, as I just got home from the doctors. Lucy is also waiting for me to let him out sitting right at the bottom of the stairs haha. The good news is I tested Lucy while I went to the drs, by leaving a potty pad out on a holder, that Gizmo had went potty on, and I came home and it was still in its holder. Another funny thing is this morning when I squirted Gizmo with the water bottle, Lucy was the one o leave him lone, almost like she did not want her puppy to get in trouble? Very strange lol. Hopefully Lucy will be good if I show her the water bottle and she won't want her puppy sprayed again lol. You really would need to meet Lucy o now what I mean when I say she is not a normal cat haha. Hopefully things get better, they seem to be right this minutes:-)

Thanks so much everybody for the help :-)

Sounds like they are quite the pair. Probably just telling her "no" or moving her away when she gets near the pads will eventually lead her to leave them alone. Cats have their own way of handling things. An exceptionally smart cat is always looking for ways to keep from being bored. Sounds like Gizmo is her project. Maybe she does resent you taking him for walks. Like you took her baby away and she didn't like it. She seems to have that motherly instinct.
Our Mother Cat (her name because she had so many litters out in the woods before we finally tamed her and made her a house cat) had a powerful mothering instinct. She does not identify with other cats and is quite a loner now that she is spayed. She, however, has never liked Gracie since she has that strong feral instinct. Gracie plays with the other cats but steers clear of Mother cat.

Sunnydayz 10-16-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4333832)
Sounds like they are quite the pair. Probably just telling her "no" or moving her away when she gets near the pads will eventually lead her to leave them alone. Cats have their own way of handling things. An exceptionally smart cat is always looking for ways to keep from being bored. Sounds like Gizmo is her project. Maybe she does resent you taking him for walks. Like you took her baby away and she didn't like it. She seems to have that motherly instinct.
Our Mother Cat (her name because she had so many litters out in the woods before we finally tamed her and made her a house cat) had a powerful mothering instinct. She does not identify with other cats and is quite a loner now that she is spayed. She, however, has never liked Gracie since she has that strong feral instinct. Gracie plays with the other cats but steers clear of Mother cat.

I told my husband it's like watching one of those cartoons, where the cat is always sabotaging the dog lol. So far so good today, after I sprayed Gizmo for barking this morning, while Lucy was growling, hissing and egging him on, Lucy has been being nicer and the potty pad is still in the holder. It's almost like Lucy is saying "hey don't punish my puppy, I'm the only one allowed to do that" haha. Everything is nice and quiet right now and they are both being good, I just hope it stays this way :-)

Sunnydayz 10-16-2013 06:41 PM

It is really different with feral raised kitties than domestics. Even if you get them early like I did with Lucy at 2 days old, they always have a bit of that wildness in their genes or something. My other 2, Sadie and Bruiser still seem to have the skittish thing going on like ferals, they will not come out when their are strangers or even people they have met are in the house, yet they let my grand babies carry them all over when we have sleepovers. Lucy has a thing where she has to go for Walks outside with us everyday and is totally opposite by the fact she fears nothing. I remember when Lucy was little, she stood out from the other kitties because she was so smart and fearless, that's what made me keep her :-) now I wish she at least feared my reprimands haha, but she doesn't, that's why it was so funny that she behaved when Gizmo got sprayed by the water bottle, like she was offended that I reprimanded her puppy, even though she did not respond at all to herself being reprimanded. I guess the way to go with Lucy, is not reprimanding her, but reprimand the puppy so she behaves, wanting to keep her puppy out of trouble lol.

Lou 10-17-2013 08:55 AM

I found out that cats HATE the smell of lemon so when our cat started using pad and spraying on the wall I put lemon juice all around the edge of the pad. That stopped it. But when the pas was replaced she went right back to the same old thing. You may want to try it for a while and see if it works for you. I thought about useing Lemon Pledge around the edges too. Something that smells like lemon anyway.

navillusc 10-17-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnydayz (Post 4333884)
It is really different with feral raised kitties than domestics...


Many of the feral 'kittens' I got were 4-8 months minimum, and cats were into adulthood. They 'can' be pretty skittish when a feral mom has raised them feral BEFORE you get hold of them...that's for sure. :D


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