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xoCourtney 06-23-2013 06:45 PM
Vaccinations
 
Miley is going to get her 16 week shots on Thursday. I wanted to know what vaccines are COMPLETELY necessary for her to have and which ones are NOT. I know vets push all kinds of vaccines down your throat and I just want to get what she NEEDS not what they THINK she needs.

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253387)
Miley is going to get her 16 week shots on Thursday. I wanted to know what vaccines are COMPLETELY necessary for her to have and which ones are NOT. I know vets push all kinds of vaccines down your throat and I just want to get what she NEEDS not what they THINK she needs.
You also need to make sure because of her small size she only gets one shot at a time and wait two weeks between each shot. Many small dogs get very sick getting more then one shot at a time. Is Lepto a problem in your area?

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253404)
You also need to make sure because of her small size she only gets one shot at a time and wait two weeks between each shot. Many small dogs get very sick getting more then one shot at a time.
Okay so whats considered the 16 week "puppy shots" that she's SUPPOSED to be getting so that I can take her on walks and stuff at 18 weeks? I would hate to see anything happen to her because the vet got vaccine happy. I know NO RABIES shot yet not until shes older :D

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253406)
Okay so whats considered the 16 week "puppy shots" that she's SUPPOSED to be getting so that I can take her on walks and stuff at 18 weeks? I would hate to see anything happen to her because the vet got vaccine happy. I know NO RABIES shot yet not until shes older :D
Is Lepto an issue where you live?

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253408)
Is Lepto an issue where you live?
I'm not sure. I've never heard of it until coming here. Is this something I can google to find out if it's in my area?

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:03 PM
Its been so long sense Callie had puppy shots 6 years so I am sure someone else will be able to help you more with that I just wanted to warn you about more then one shot at a time.

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253417)
I'm not sure. I've never heard of it until coming here. Is this something I can google to find out if it's in my area?
More then likely. The only reason I know its is where I live is because my mom had a goat die from it. If it is not in your area though I would not get it because some small dogs can have reactions to it. Did she do ok with her other puppy shots?

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253420)
More then likely. The only reason I know its is where I live is because my mom had a goat die from it. If it is not in your area though I would not get it because some small dogs can have reactions to it. Did she do ok with her other puppy shots?
Yeah Georgia said she was fine with her shots! I got Miley at 13 weeks so she had all of her shots and I just have to do this round. Is lepto part of the puppy shots? or is that an extra one that needs to wait until her next visit?

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253421)
Yeah Georgia said she was fine with her shots! I got Miley at 13 weeks so she had all of her shots and I just have to do this round. Is lepto part of the puppy shots? or is that an extra one that needs to wait until her next visit?
It was in Callie's puppy shots but some leave it out and some put it in.

107barney 06-23-2013 07:14 PM
At 16 weeks, we did rabies. I think we finished puppy shots around the same time. We do rabies, and DHPP (no lepto). The shots can be separated but honestly dogs are more likely to react to the BOOSTER shot not puppy shots. I would definitely hang out at the vet for a good half hour after the DHPP shot to make sure the pup doesn't react. Rabies, I just leave because it's pretty infrequent that dogs react to rabies. As for lepto, I would definitely stay at the office for this one as well if you do it. I would not do lepto at the same time as DHPP. These are my personal views, and you should discuss your concerns w/ your veterinarian who should be more than delighted to explain things to you.

Fritz n Sophie 06-23-2013 07:15 PM
I asked my vet about that too. He said with these babies he didn't give the lepto vaccine. We spaced Sphie's shots out as much as possible and she didn't get the rabies shot till she was 6 mo.

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4253426)
At 16 weeks, we did rabies. I think we finished puppy shots around the same time. We do rabies, and DHPP (no lepto). The shots can be separated but honestly dogs are more likely to react to the BOOSTER shot not puppy shots. I would definitely hang out at the vet for a good half hour after the DHPP shot to make sure the pup doesn't react. Rabies, I just leave because it's pretty infrequent that dogs react to rabies. As for lepto, I would definitely stay at the office for this one as well if you do it. I would not do lepto at the same time as DHPP. These are my personal views, and you should discuss your concerns w/ your veterinarian who should be more than delighted to explain things to you.
Oh thank you! I probably would've hopped in my car not realizing that she could possibly have a reaction! What is the DHPP? is that a necessary shot?

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz n Sophie (Post 4253430)
I asked my vet about that too. He said with these babies he didn't give the lepto vaccine. We spaced Sphie's shots out as much as possible and she didn't get the rabies shot till she was 6 mo.
Okay! and it's also so hard because my vet is not in the same city as me. My vet is 30 minutes away so would asking him about lepto be relevant to my area as well?

107barney 06-23-2013 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253434)
Oh thank you! I probably would've hopped in my car not realizing that she could possibly have a reaction! What is the DHPP? is that a necessary shot?
DHPP is distemper, hepatitis 2, parvovirus and parainfluenza. It is a combo vaccine. Yes, this is a core vaccine and important that your puppy have it.

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4253439)
DHPP is distemper, hepatitis 2, parvovirus and parainfluenza. It is a combo vaccine. Yes, this is a core vaccine and important that your puppy have it.
ohh okay! so that's what's considered the "puppy shot". If we decide to do lepto (which i'm leaning towards no right now) is it okay to take with DHPP or no?

107barney 06-23-2013 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253436)
Okay! and it's also so hard because my vet is not in the same city as me. My vet is 30 minutes away so would asking him about lepto be relevant to my area as well?
Your vet will know if there is a lepto problem where you live. Please know that the lepto vaccine does not cover all the strains of leptospirosis bacteria (called serovars) that exist in the environment. We have a lepto "problem" here, but I have opted not to give it. I have in the past to my older dogs.

If you choose to do lepto, it is given as a combo shot as DHLPP. Then you have to do a lepto booster, I believe every year and there are some vets who say for it to be really effective you have to do every 6 months.

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253441)
ohh okay! so that's what's considered the "puppy shot". If we decide to do lepto (which i'm leaning towards no right now) is it okay to take with DHPP or no?
If you do Lepto I would do it alone and ask the vet to pretreat with benadryl just to try and avoid any reactions.

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4253444)
Your vet will know if there is a lepto problem where you live. Please know that the lepto vaccine does not cover all the strains of leptospirosis bacteria (called serovars) that exist in the environment. We have a lepto "problem" here, but I have opted not to give it. I have in the past to my older dogs.

If you choose to do lepto, it is given as a combo shot as DHLPP. Then you have to do a lepto booster, I believe every year and there are some vets who say for it to be really effective you have to do every 6 months.
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253447)
If you do Lepto I would do it alone and ask the vet to pretreat with benadryl just to try and avoid any reactions.
Okay thank you both! very informative :)

107barney 06-23-2013 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253447)
If you do Lepto I would do it alone and ask the vet to pretreat with benadryl just to try and avoid any reactions.
I disagree. The vet can administer medications if there is a reaction and that is why I would just hang out for 30-45 mins. I have never pretreated with benadryl and in a dog that has not previously reacted to a vaccine, it is not standard of care to do it.

xoCourtney 06-23-2013 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4253462)
I disagree. The vet can administer medications if there is a reaction and that is why I would just hang out for 30-45 mins. I have never pretreated with benadryl and in a dog that has not previously reacted to a vaccine, it is not standard of care to do it.
I'm sure each vet is different :) I'll talk to my vet and see what he prefers for Miley.

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253463)
I'm sure each vet is different :) I'll talk to my vet and see what he prefers for Miley.
That's probably best.

107barney 06-23-2013 07:43 PM
Sorry, the puppy shots are listed differently.

DH2P is distemper
CPV is parvo

The booster is DH2PP

Maybe Ellie May can be more specific than I can about this.

107barney 06-23-2013 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253463)
I'm sure each vet is different :) I'll talk to my vet and see what he prefers for Miley.
I'm sure Miley will do great :)
I don't like to do shots -- no one does -- but at this age, they are important for Miley. Good luck!

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4253467)
I'm sure Miley will do great :)
I don't like to do shots -- no one does -- but at this age, they are important for Miley. Good luck!
That is so the truth when I took Callie for her first puppy shots she screamed it was terrible.

cindersellie 06-24-2013 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253493)
That is so the truth when I took Callie for her first puppy shots she screamed it was terrible.
:( Poor thing!

Cinders acts like it's nothing to get a shot. She gives the vet techs kisses as their giving the shot!:eek:

I remember doing the rabies shot separate from all other shots. I took the day off incase she had a reaction, and she was the 1st appointment at the vets that day.

I am beyond grateful that I found this vet! They understand yorkie needs. I really don't know how I got so lucky. They know what I need to do for Cinders before I ask. :) Out of the 4 vets near me, they are in the smallest building, and it's an old house that's been remodeled into the vet practice. I never thought such an awesome staff was inside when I first went there. :thumbup:

pstinard 06-24-2013 05:38 AM
Each dog responds differently to the shots. My Bella didn't make a peep, but when she got home, she was drowsy and out of it for a few hours, but perked up later. Bella had her rabies vaccination along with her puppy shots, but that was before I read on Yorkietalk that it was best to space them out. She did fine, but Bella is a TANK. I recommend that you definitely get the DHPP vaccination, and that you separately vaccinate for rabies at least 3 weeks later. Let us know what your vet recommends.

KathyKelben 06-24-2013 06:23 AM
this is another one of those really controvercial topics. I agree with the rabies not being given until at least 6 months. These little guys won't be left to run wild in the forest, so the chances of getting rabies is rare.... it is the law here so I have to have it, otherwise, I wouldn't. I do not get shots for anything unless my dogs are likely to be in direct contact with the virus... but that is just me .... vets will vaccinate for everything all the time... it is a huge moneymaker, and for us dog owners a huge puzzle... what is best for the dog??? a lot of controversy for sure.

xoCourtney 06-24-2013 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KathyKelben (Post 4253691)
this is another one of those really controvercial topics. I agree with the rabies not being given until at least 6 months. These little guys won't be left to run wild in the forest, so the chances of getting rabies is rare.... it is the law here so I have to have it, otherwise, I wouldn't. I do not get shots for anything unless my dogs are likely to be in direct contact with the virus... but that is just me .... vets will vaccinate for everything all the time... it is a huge moneymaker, and for us dog owners a huge puzzle... what is best for the dog??? a lot of controversy for sure.
Lol oh god why do I always bring up the controversial topics!! I know vets like to suggest "necessary" vaccines that's why I wanted to know a little about each shot before Thursday!

BabyGirl Rosie 06-24-2013 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4253441)
ohh okay! so that's what's considered the "puppy shot". If we decide to do lepto (which i'm leaning towards no right now) is it okay to take with DHPP or no?
I asked my vet about Lepto. He said it wasn't something my girls needed for my area. Ask your vet. I separate the shots for my girls. The vet said more dogs are having a reaction to the rabies shot now. I wouldn't do the lepto and DHPP together. Just my opinion.

bjh 06-24-2013 06:47 AM
Many vets do over vaccinate. I prefer Dr. Dodd's vaccination schedule:

Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | Dr. Dodds' 2012 Canine Vaccination Protocol

Put off the rabies shot as long as you can and never let the vet give the rabies shot at the same time as the core vaccines.


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