And that's why I wanted to be done with this thread. My breeder was completely irrelevant and if others think I'm going to sit back and watch her be torn apart that's not happening!

That is what you wanted not what most people want. Most people want a yorkie not a smaller yorkie

so then why is teacup such a hush hush word if that's just what i want?! If it wasn't something the majority of unknowledgeable people wanted in a yorkie we wouldn't even be having this discussion! And stop accusing me of wanting an unhealthy 3lb dog! For goodness sake!

All your doing what bad breeder do put more value on a smaller yorkie well tell that to someone who wanted an average size yorkie and adores their size. Not everyone wants the responsibility of a tiny and not everyone has the lifestyle for a tiny including me. Also if most people wanted a tiny most people would have a tiny

Right but it's the reason WHY they don't use it that gets me. I get that the BYBs have completely destroyed the term I really do but it's almost always assumed when someone sees a smaller yorkie (I now understand that Miley will fit what is the standard) that they came from a BYB or their going to be sick and live an unhealthy life and I guess that's what bothers me about it. Now yes if the tiny came from a BYB absolutely...you don't understand how many people have asked me to let Miley mate with their dogs to "make puppies and get money" I tell them ABSOLUTELY NOT and when she is old enough she will be SPAYED. They don't understand how much goes into breeding and healthy bloodlines, etc. and from my research reputable breeders make barely anything off of breeding because of what has to be done in order to even make such amazing puppies!

k....

Most people buy a pup and expect an average sized dog at maturity. I bought mine expecting that. God decided I was getting a tiny one. I'd have adored her no matter what size she ended up as, because I loved her from the moment I met her.

So, what your saying is that when we use the term teacup, we're supporting bad breeders and putting value on tinies just by using that term? My thinking was that when someone searched Teacup Yorkie, YT would pop up and they could read about them on here before they bought one from the online tiny breeder. ( I did a search like that and yes, YT is popping up for teacup yorkies, and teapot yorkies).

:thumbup: thank you and that's all I'm saying. Just because someone does get a tiny from a REPUTABLE breeder because they DO happen just like premie babies happen doesn't mean that they should be looked at like they're the scum of the earth. Everyone is different and I did want Miley to be on the smaller side of Yorkies I don't want a 16lb yorkie like some people do.

I get your point. But It's simply a bad word in the Yorkie world. Like calling a person a racial slur. Say one out loud to somebody you will get the same reaction. I would just get over the word "teacup". It's a bad word. Arguing your point will get know where. Ask Paula Deen JMO

Paula Deen- LMAO!

I get it, but now YT is linked forever to the T word on the interent! :p

Thanks! I may have misread or misunderstood. I will have to go back and look again....I swore that she had said she looked for a tiny.

You said very rarely do they want one and that is simply not a fact.

As to the rest of it, I must have been half asleep when reading and I apologize if I misread your posts.

:thumbup: Exactly!

A word is just a word, until the general public assigns additional meanings to it. Tcup is a slur in the yorkie world. Best to avoid it.

BTW, don't be surprised if your baby ends up being closer to or over 6 lbs. At that young age, a breeder - even a very good one - is only giving you a "best guess."

You'll be surprised when your baby has a little spurt after 7 months!:)

Good luck. Tracey

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Another thing about the ultra small dog is that they are so fragile that they are easily injured. If they jump or fall off the couch or worse still - the bed - it is a trip to the vet, even if the dog lands on carpet but hardwood, tile and brick are the hardest on tiny body parts. A GSD can roll off the couch in his sleep and barely have a problem but a 3 lb. dog that goes off that couch is usually injured. Tiny dogs are always at risk around larger dogs, no matter how closely you watch or how calm and submissive the larger dog. Things just happen and tiny dogs get hurt so easily. With tiny dogs, they can't just walk up to you for a cuddle - they must constantly be jumping or ramping to get to you on the couch, chair or bed. Who knows how their tiny joints will hold up under a lifetime of constant jumping up and down doggie steps or ramps. I know my ER vet told me my Jilly's traumatic shoulder dislocation coming down her doggie steps was from her tiny size, fragile joints and the repetition of overstressing those joints for her lifetime. A very small dog can't run through a field or successfully compete with other dogs in very many activities due to their tiny size so they don't get a whole lot of fun and challenging activities in their lives. A tiny little dog can just walk through the space between the fence and the gate, never mind that the gate is closed! When out in the grass or yard, a small dog's little belly is right at the grass level and so often get itchy from running through anything that grows in the yard and large landscape rocks and other decorations are hard for them to navigate through, over or around. They are often more susceptible to noises and fears than other, larger and more active and hardy canines. And once you add in the CT, GI, endocrine, orthopedic, neurological and other genetic problems they can inherit, people usually begin to see that anyone who deliberately breeds for tiny puppies for any reason is not doing the little dog itself - the little guy that has to try to live his life in that 1.5 - 3 lb. body - any favors. Watch a tiny Yorkie of only a a couple pounds struggling just to get up on the porch from the sidewalk to join his family and you begin to see that these little things have a hard, hard life in spite of how much they might be coddled at times.

When I am speaking I am speaking in terms of my general area and people I have encountered. And it smaller yorkies seem to be a desired think in the world because if they weren't we wouldn't have BYB trying to breed for the tiniest dogs. Before coming here I used to call small yorkies teacup yorkies because that's what I knew before you all educated me and for that I am forever grateful!

how appropriate for a cheer coach like myself :rolleyes:
:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

lol and I'll love all 6...or 16 pounds of her :D I know NO ONE can correctly guess her adult weight! But knowing that she would be on the smaller side is what drew me to her more if that makes sense? I never once said I wanted a 3lb sick dog though.

Those are great points. It really is like having a special needs child, and they shouldn't be placed with just anyone. I feel a bit sorry for them because even though they have the heart of a dog, they don't get to fully enjoy being one. (Although they aren't aware of it, probably perfectly content with their struggles, and don't miss what they've never had).

And I agree wholeheartedly. Miley is 2.5 lbs right now at 15 weeks (awh she's 15 weeks today...they grow up so fast!) and I accidentally stepped on her paw this morning getting ready for work. She was okay but I still felt horrible!! I personally can't imagine having an adult dog at 2.5 lbs but thats my personal preference. There are people here or who are coming here that WANT smaller dogs regardless of the health problems associated with it. It is something that is advertised in the media and makes people think its "cute" to have a little purse dog. I guess now I see better why everyone hates the term teacup. It's not something that is ever going to change but I guess what I was trying to say is those with teacups should be just as welcomed as those who have standard or teapots. There was another thread that made me post this thread. Someone simply came on looking for a breeder that provided puppies that get no more than 4lbs (and again I know NO ONE can know for sure the adult weight of any dog) and they were basically being investigated by the YT SWAT team...while others were very helpful and just told them to take caution and extra care of their desired tiny others were like well why do you want a smaller dog and why this and blah blah blah and that's what made me post this thread. I didn't mean to cause WWIII but there ARE people who do want smaller dogs and they shouldn't be looked at like they are contaminated because of it. EDUCATING someone and making someone feel bad about what they want are two completely different things.

Yes but there are some people who are willing to take on the challenges of that "special needs child" ;)

I personally couldn't do it because of work, school, etc. Miley is already an active handful and I worry myself sick making sure that she is okay all of the time. I remember when I first got her I cried for the first few days because I felt HORRIBLE for taking her away from what she knew. She seemed very sad and I know she just had to adjust to me and her new surroundings but it was just so heartbreaking because she was SO happy and content at the breeders. She's gotten much better now (although we have issues with potty training :rolleyes:) but she's definitely a heart stealer and I wouldn't trade her for the world!

I have a 2.8 lb dog. :( She runs, climbs rocks, she snuggles, uses her human mind control skills to get up on furniture and down, and she chases kids that visit until THEY are tired. Sure I have to watch her more, but she's just a smaller version of my other dogs. She does the same as they did. Please don't feel sorry for mine. She's happy and healthy. She just needs watched closely on some things, but not everything.

Maybe I've learned on this site about yorkie care in general and that's why Cinders is doing pretty good. An example of normalcy is her spay. She was spayed on Tuesday, and she's hitting the same milestones afterward that the others have, and at the same time after the spay. There's been a lot of threads in the last 2 weeks about getting spayed. I read them so I could see what to expect in her recovery. She's eating on her own, pooing and peeing, and trying to play already.(in 2 days she's doing very well). So, I think it's like any other dog ( of any size)- the owner has a lot to do with how well the dog does at being a dog. (besides a good breeder :thumbup:)

Exactly and I completely 1000000% agree with this! If the OWNER can take on the challenge of a smaller yorkie I don't see why it's such an issue and why they're looked at as if they have come contagious deadly virus! I just think everyone should be welcomed extra small or extra large because at the end of the day we all have one thing in common...and thats our love for our yorkies.

I have never seen anyone tear someone down about wanting a tiny or having a tiny and that didnt happen on this thread either. This thread was about using the word teacup and thats what people responded to

k....

I welcome them all, heck if I could find a 40 lb Yorkie I would buy it for sure. Can you imagine cuddling with a 40 lb Yorkie?

hahaha at least I wouldn't have to share my pillow. My 40lb yorkie would be my pillow :p:D

There ya go Courtney, good attitude. Teacup, Teapot we love them all !!!