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xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:40 PM

Need an answer ASAP please!
 
Help!

Miley has been having potty training issues and is peeing everywhere BUT the potty pad. I was told that it was because she had free run of my room so I restricted her to just her play pen. She is asleep now, thank god, but she has been in there for 2 hours now. HOW LONG am I supposed to leave her in there? I know she's supposed to stay in there when I am gone but when I'm home when is it okay for her to come out? Please someone help before she wakes up. She barked and cried for an hour straight :( I am going to make her sleep in her play pen tonight mainly because she did pee in my bed today and I was highly upset about it. She's only 13 weeks so I don't expect her to be a pro but she has to understand where she's supposed to be going before I let her run free again.

MyGirlSasha 06-12-2013 04:44 PM

I'm sorry you're having so many troubles >_<

She should stay in an area near potty pads until you've seen her pee. Only then is it safe for her to run around out of the pen for a little while.

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGirlSasha (Post 4242744)
I'm sorry you're having so many troubles >_<

She should stay in an area near potty pads until you've seen her pee. Only then is it safe for her to run around out of the pen for a little while.

My mom wants me to "wait another week to confine her to her play pen" I think thats absolutely ridiculous and in that week that she wants me waiting Miley will have already gone on the pad numerous times!

Even if she cries and barks do I just leave her in there until she has gone?

Hrossen11 06-12-2013 04:46 PM

If you want her to have more freedom which is hard when so lityle try tethering her. Put on her harness then attach her leash to you. This way you can watch for her signs of potty. My 15 week old has a blocked off section in my room with his bed and pee pad completly covering carpet this way near me but restricted freedom.

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4242749)
If you want her to have more freedom which is hard when so lityle try tethering her. Put on her harness then attach her leash to you. This way you can watch for her signs of potty. My 15 week old has a blocked off section in my room with his bed and pee pad completly covering carpet this way near me but restricted freedom.

I've seen her signs and put her on her pad and she just lays down then literally 5 seconds later she will get off the pad and go pee on the carpet :mad::mad::mad: She also barks like crazy when "near me" but not ON me. Tonight is going to be hell trying to get her to sleep in her pen.

Drudi 06-12-2013 04:52 PM

Hi, when she starts sniffing around carry her to the potty pad, or outside. My pup sleeps with me on the bed inside his crate, when I get up I carry him out or to the pad, he goes by himself now on the pad. I'm sure you will get more advice. It takes a little time but she will learn .

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drudi (Post 4242757)
Hi, when she starts sniffing around carry her to the potty pad, or outside. My pup sleeps with me on the bed inside his crate, when I get up I carry him out or to the pad, he goes by himself now on the pad. I'm sure you will get more advice. It takes a little time but she will learn .

Hello! I have tried that and she sits on the pad and then lays on it as if its her bed. I let her off about 3 minutes later and within 5 seconds she pee's on the carpet.

Ldyrev1 06-12-2013 04:54 PM

Ok, take a deep breath and try to relax. You are now restricting her movements and that's the right thing to do but you don't want to leave her in her crate all the time. I bet you're glad to hear that. LOL Your current goal with your pup is to encourage her to go potty in the correct area (pad/outside) so I would suggest that you put her on her leash and fix the hand end to you in some fashion. You can loosely tie it to a belt loop on your pants or something like that. This will keep her very close to you so you can supervise her. When you see/think she needs to go potty, take her to her potty spot and give her tons of praise when she does it right. Never yell or scold her when she makes a mistake. My mother used to tell me "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." What she was saying is that if you are sweet, you will get sweet (or good behavior) from someone else or in this case, your pup. Dogs respond much better to positive reinforcement than scolding.

You do want to keep her in her pen when you are away but not all the time. I hope this makes sense. Sorry for the long post.

Deb1 06-12-2013 04:56 PM

Courtney, I never put Teeka or Tatiana in a kennel to potty train. I know some do and it works for them. Tatiana is pad trained & also goes outside to potty. First of all your baby is only 13 weeks old and such a baby, yet. You should not expect it to be potty trained already. When I started training to the pad, I would take her after eating, after she wakes and after play time. You have to be diligent and watch them closely for signs that they have to potty....like getting nervous, sniffing for a place or starting to squat. Quickly take her to her pad and say "potty" if she tries to leave take her back and repeat until she goes.....praise her and say good girl go potty. If you are consistent, she will get the idea. She will have accidents and forget, just because she is a baby! Watch her constantly....if you can't then keep her in a small area with her pad. I am a stay at home grandma, so maybe it was easier because I am always here. Tatiana is almost 6 months and pretty well trained! She has had no accidents for the last month except this week. She has been sick with vomiting & diarrhea and is not always able to get to the pad on time. I can tell she feels bad when she has an accident. It will get easier! :)

MyGirlSasha 06-12-2013 04:57 PM

after her nap she will have to pee, once she goes on the pad then get her out of the pen. That will be part of her reward for using it.

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4242760)
Ok, take a deep breath and try to relax. You are now restricting her movements and that's the right thing to do but you don't want to leave her in her crate all the time. I bet you're glad to hear that. LOL Your current goal with your pup is to encourage her to go potty in the correct area (pad/outside) so I would suggest that you put her on her leash and fix the hand end to you in some fashion. You can loosely tie it to a belt loop on your pants or something like that. This will keep her very close to you so you can supervise her. When you see/think she needs to go potty, take her to her potty spot and give her tons of praise when she does it right. Never yell or scold her when she makes a mistake. My mother used to tell me "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." What she was saying is that if you are sweet, you will get sweet (or good behavior) from someone else or in this case, your pup. Dogs respond much better to positive reinforcement than scolding.

You do want to keep her in her pen when you are away but not all the time. I hope this makes sense. Sorry for the long post.

Not long at all. Very helpful! It's just hard to monitor her all the time because I do work. This weekend I am off and I do plan on being really strict with potty training. I told her "No Potty!" when she went in my bed. I then put her in her crate and pointed to where I wanted her to potty and said "Go Potty!" she just looked at me. I think my dog might be an exception to that "responding to niceness" part haha.

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGirlSasha (Post 4242764)
after her nap she will have to pee, once she goes on the pad then get her out of the pen. That will be part of her reward for using it.

Okay it's also approaching bed time. (it's almost 8pm here) so after that should I put her back in her pen? I really want her to sleep IN HER bed tonight and not mine.

Deb1 06-12-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242759)
Hello! I have tried that and she sits on the pad and then lays on it as if its her bed. I let her off about 3 minutes later and within 5 seconds she pee's on the carpet.

Take her back to the pad....give the command to potty.....repeat until she goes! I know it is frustrating but she will get it. She is just not understanding what you want her to do on the pad. She will eventually go....then praise, praise, praise!!!

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4242774)
Take her back to the pad....give the command to potty.....repeat until she goes! I know it is frustrating but she will get it. She is just not understanding what you want her to do on the pad. She will eventually go....then praise, praise, praise!!!

Okay so is she just coming off of the bad then just because she doesn't know what it's used for? At the breeder she used washable pads and we use disposable here.

MyGirlSasha 06-12-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242770)
Okay it's also approaching bed time. (it's almost 8pm here) so after that should I put her back in her pen? I really want her to sleep IN HER bed tonight and not mine.

Be sure to wear her out with playtime, then when she's nice and tired put her in her bed. She'll probably cry and whine but eventually should calm down. It's really about not giving into the crying which can be hard :/. Just make sure she has a blankie and some toys to make her feel better

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGirlSasha (Post 4242778)
Be sure to wear her out with playtime, then when she's nice and tired put her in her bed. She'll probably cry and whine but eventually should calm down. It's really about not giving into the crying which can be hard :/. Just make sure she has a blankie and some toys to make her feel better

She goes to sleep for about an hour or two just fine it's when she wakes up and realizes shes not on my chest that she flips and barks non stop. I wouldn't necessarily be so anal about her barking if I had my own apartment but the rest of my family is asleep and she just barks, barks, barks.

Deb1 06-12-2013 05:07 PM

If the breeder used washable, she might be confused.....just keep taking her back until she goes! It might take 1 time or it might take 10.....if she just got up she will need to go potty! I praise and then play! After a very active play time she will need to go again!

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4242782)
If the breeder used washable, she might be confused.....just keep taking her back until she goes! It might take 1 time or it might take 10.....if she just got up she will need to go potty! I praise and then play! After a very active play time she will need to go again!

That's what I was thinking but I used the washable ones with her first and she still pee'd on the carpet :( I put down all 6 of them too. So after her nap do I just leave her in the pen until she potties or am I supposed to walk over to the pen and hold her where I want her to potty until she goes? So sorry for all of the questions she's my first dog and I have no idea how to potty train :(

Ldyrev1 06-12-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242776)
Okay so is she just coming off of the bad then just because she doesn't know what it's used for? At the breeder she used washable pads and we use disposable here.

Washable/disposable it doesn't matter. Being consistent is the key here. Please don't leave her in her pen for the next few weeks, you will have one very confused and depressed puppy. She needs contact with you but after she has gone potty on the pad.

You've gotten a lot of advice here already and I know you can do this. Don't get angry or mad if she makes a mistake. Show it to her, take her to her pad and tell her "good potty". She will get it but it usually take a little while. Tethering her when she's out of her pen (with some free run time after she has potted) is the best you can do. Patience and be consistent doing it the same way every time and you will have a very well behaved puppy in the potty department!!

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4242785)
Washable/disposable it doesn't matter. Being consistent is the key here. Please don't leave her in her pen for the next few weeks, you will have one very confused and depressed puppy. She needs contact with you but after she has gone potty on the pad.

You've gotten a lot of advice here already and I know you can do this. Don't get angry or mad if she makes a mistake. Show it to her, take her to her pad and tell her "good potty". She will get it but it usually take a little while. Tethering her when she's out of her pen (with some free run time after she has potted) is the best you can do. Be consistent doing it the same way every time and you will have a very well behaved puppy in the potty department!!

I don't plan on leaving her in the pen all day but she is in there right not until she goes potty. She hasn't gone yet and is actually asleep right now. She will be staying in her pen when I am at work for obvious reasons. Eventually when she gets the potty training thing down pact then she can stay out of the pen while I am at work. I will try tethering her. thank you!

ladyjane 06-12-2013 05:14 PM

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Deb1 06-12-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242783)
That's what I was thinking but I used the washable ones with her first and she still pee'd on the carpet :( I put down all 6 of them too. So after her nap do I just leave her in the pen until she potties or am I supposed to walk over to the pen and hold her where I want her to potty until she goes? So sorry for all of the questions she's my first dog and I have no idea how to potty train :(

Hmmm.....I never used a pen. I would just take her to the pad and put her on it....say potty. Don't hold her there, back off a bit. If she get off the pad, take her back, repeat the command.....do until she goes. Stay with her and repeat your command in a uplifting voice.....do not sound angry or it will confuse her. They pick up on your feelings!

MyGirlSasha 06-12-2013 05:16 PM

The thing about potty training is it takes A LOT of time, A LOT of patience, and A LOT of persistence. You and Miley are learning how to do this together, so it can be a little frustrating.

After her nap, put her on her pads (hopefully in her pen you have it pretty well covered in pads), tell her to "potty". She'll probably be trying to climb out, wagging her tail, whimpering what have you, but keep putting her on the pad and say "potty". It can take 2 minutes, or 10...but keep doing it till she goes. She will eventually go! Then take her out and love on her and play and praise and make it a happy fun awesome thing!

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4242791)
Hmmm.....I never used a pen. I would just take her to the pad and put her on it....say potty. Don't hold her there, back off a bit. If she get off the pad, take her back, repeat the command.....do until she goes. Stay with her and repeat your command in a uplifting voice.....do not sound angry or it will confuse her. They pick up on your feelings!

Okay so should I take away the pen? This is a lot harder than I thought :(

Yorkiemom1 06-12-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4242749)
If you want her to have more freedom which is hard when so lityle try tethering her. Put on her harness then attach her leash to you. This way you can watch for her signs of potty. My 15 week old has a blocked off section in my room with his bed and pee pad completly covering carpet this way near me but restricted freedom.

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This is what I was going to suggest. You have to be persistant, consistant, and determined. I think this is the most difficult time for new owners with Yorkies, because they are very stubborn and they are just as determined to do it their way! You can not let her be loose and unsupervised, or even able to get far enough away from you where she can squat and pee BEFORE you can get to her and STOP it! That is where the tethering comes in....she is right there with you and she is not more than an arms reach away....if you see her exhibiting potty behavior, you must intervene...take her outside or put her on her pee pad. When you are not around, she has to be confined in a small area with pee pads down.....my babies are actually raised on pee pads....they are in the bottom of all pens and crates...they pee on pee pads because they have no choice....and then during week 12 I start cutting down on the size of the area covered with a pee pad....and from habit, they will go across the play pen and pee on the pee pad. Works great....I guess you could try that in her play pen, and then use the tethering method whenever she is out and about with you. BUT I AM NOT A TRAINER....I JUST DO WHAT WORKS FOR ME!!!!

Deb1 06-12-2013 05:18 PM

You say you work.....how long are you gone? Is it possible to have someone come in during the day and play and potty her a few times. It will probably take longer to train if she is left to her own! :(

MyGirlSasha 06-12-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242793)
Okay so should I take away the pen? This is a lot harder than I thought :(

I think it's just whatever works for you. But giving her free reign without the pen doesn't seem to be working very well.

Deb1 06-12-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4242793)
Okay so should I take away the pen? This is a lot harder than I thought :(

Not if she is used to it and if you need it to keep her safe while you are at work or away. Just keep taking her back to the pad until she potties.

yorkietalkjilly 06-12-2013 05:24 PM

Confinement is not so the dog can "go" while confined, it's to encourage them to learn to hold their pee/poo. After a period of confinement I would first thing take my dog outside to potty, as the dog had usually held his pee/poo while confined and needed to go.

With yours, you'll need to take her to the area where there are potty pads out in the room and teach her to go there and not allow her to leave that area until she does potty on those pads, then praise/treat and celebrate the "go" on the pads. Once she's done both her businesses on the pads, now she is free to run about and play and eat, drink and do whatever, with you still keeping an eye on her in case she has any further urges or didn't both pee and potty on the pads once out of confinement. You will repeat the confinement for short periods and then taking her out of confinement and to the pads placed in the room to encourage her to use them and then praise/treat, allow some freedom for play and general living, training in obedience, eating/drinking, etc. Back to the pads a few minutes after eating/drinking for her to go again if need be, praise/treat and then back to short confinement to teach her to hold herself until she is free again.

Later, when she's used to only using that area with the potty pads and will want to get to that area to go, you won't have to restrict her as much to just that area. You can allow her out in the room and other parts of the house but watching her all the while she's out and about for evidence of staring, sniffing or excitement prior to needing to "go" potty. If you see that activity, get her and place her on the pads if she doesn't head over to them on her on. Eventually she will begin to go to the pads on her own and that's when you know you are getting through to her.

But at first, after confinement, you must place your dog in the place you want to to go potty. If she doesn't, you can either re-confine for another 15 minutes, then take her out and put her back on the potty pads and if she still doesn't go, confine for another 15 and so forth until she does. Confining a dog just usually helps them learn to hold their urine/feces until they get a chance to go potty in their usual spot, where you put them when removed from confinement. Of course you do cover the surface of the confinement area during training to prevent soiling that area if she can't hold it while still confined. It sends a bit of a mixed message to them, it is true. Some will soil the area they are confined to if the pads cover the whole bottom of it but eventually they get the message not to go where they sleep and relax and to hold it for when removed and taken to their usual potty spot.

xoCourtney 06-12-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGirlSasha (Post 4242792)
The thing about potty training is it takes A LOT of time, A LOT of patience, and A LOT of persistence. You and Miley are learning how to do this together, so it can be a little frustrating.

After her nap, put her on her pads (hopefully in her pen you have it pretty well covered in pads), tell her to "potty". She'll probably be trying to climb out, wagging her tail, whimpering what have you, but keep putting her on the pad and say "potty". It can take 2 minutes, or 10...but keep doing it till she goes. She will eventually go! Then take her out and love on her and play and praise and make it a happy fun awesome thing!

Okay! Yes I have washable pads under the play pen and then a disposable on top of the washable. I'll attach a picture of my set up. I have another pen the same size that I am going to attach to this one. I just have to make more space in my room.


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