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chachi 06-08-2013 01:09 AM

5 pit bulls
 
My new neighbors that live behind us have 5 pit bulls all chained to trees in there back yard. Im not so worried about my yorkies but I have cats that go outside that I worry about. Why would anyone need 5 pitbulls if they are all chained to trees anyway. Im keeping an eye on them for sure If i see them running loose Im calling animal control anything else I can do

Marhcarter 06-08-2013 01:13 AM

Most places have laws about keeping animals chained, I believe. I think they have to be penned, not tied, but I am thinking this due to watching Animal Cops a lot on animal planet. I would be concerned, too. I realize that a pit bull is not inherently mean, that they are as good as the people raising them intend for them to be, but 5???? That just sounds hinky...:confused:

Marhcarter 06-08-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter (Post 4238596)
Most places have laws about keeping animals chained, I believe. I think they have to be penned, not tied, but I am thinking this due to watching Animal Cops a lot on animal planet. I would be concerned, too. I realize that a pit bull is not inherently mean, that they are as good as the people raising them intend for them to be, but 5???? That just sounds hinky...:confused:

Ok, found it for your area. I was right. Anti tethering law!
Ordinances - Friends of Indianapolis Dogs Outside

chachi 06-08-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter (Post 4238600)
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Ok, found it for your area. I was right. Anti tethering law!
Ordinances - Friends of Indianapolis Dogs Outside

Thank you for posting that

Marhcarter 06-08-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4238601)
Thank you for posting that

YW. Ammunition for when you call animal control! :D I am all about protecting our little ones.

I can't let my Huey outside because the neighbor next door has approx 60 cats, about 10 or 12 of which are feral and live outside, which includes my backyard. They are all bigger than Huey. We worked with our local animal control and trapped about 9 cats that were in our yard over the space of 2 weeks and took them to animal control, but they reproduce more and it is a losing battle. Unfortunately, this neighbor has "connections" so although we have had AC inspect their property & cite them, nothing will ever actually be done to them. On the other hand, the wife has threatened my dog and says if she can ever catch him, I will never see him again. Point of this story...I understand your fear and frustration.:mad:

chachi 06-08-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter (Post 4238603)
YW. Ammunition for when you call animal control! :D I am all about protecting our little ones.

I can't let my Huey outside because the neighbor next door has approx 60 cats, about 10 or 12 of which are feral and live outside, which includes my backyard. They are all bigger than Huey. We worked with our local animal control and trapped about 9 cats that were in our yard over the space of 2 weeks and took them to animal control, but they reproduce more and it is a losing battle. Unfortunately, this neighbor has "connections" so although we have had AC inspect their property & cite them, nothing will ever actually be done to them. On the other hand, the wife has threatened my dog and says if she can ever catch him, I will never see him again. Point of this story...I understand your fear and frustration.:mad:

60 cats yuck! This is inner city too so its surprising they have that many pitbulls on their property because our yards arent that big, I hate having bad neighbors and I know you have to too, I would be concerned about that lady throwing something poisonous in the yard,

GeneaD 06-08-2013 04:15 AM

I feel sorry for the poor dogs being chained to trees. That's a good reason in itself to call animal control. I agree it sounds suspicious that they have 5. Poor things
Genea

MomtoJasper 06-08-2013 06:06 AM

I feel sorry for those dogs, too. Do they have food, shelter, water? I wonder if animal control could come and take them? If they are tame and loving, they could be adopted or rescued. If they are feral, they are a danger to your area for animals and humans alike. How can people get pets and then chain them to trees for their living environment and think it's okay????I have never understood that. To me it's cruel!! Okay, off my soap box now.

Maximo 06-08-2013 06:12 AM

I am very sorry that you are in this position. Why do these people want these 5 dogs if they are just going to chain them to trees in the yard? :(

kjc 06-08-2013 06:36 AM

These are not pets. 10:1 these are fighting dogs. Nobody chains 'pets' to trees. Do they have a treadmill in the yard for the dogs? Are the dogs muscled up like they're on steroids? I would be super careful of this situation.

JasmineNoelle 06-08-2013 06:48 AM

My gosh, how could any one responsibly take care of 60 cats......NOT. Why would any one get a dog only to tie/chain it outside, let alone five. Anyone with any kind of common sense would know these poor animals would become problems/threats for neighbors and animals. However, these kind of people, I believe, are selfish and do NOT care about others or their pets. They care about themselves only. We had a neighbor that had a beautiful Rotti in his very over grown back yard. They would never come out and give him any attention at all. Went for days with out food or water. Of course, we had the authorities involved, but this poor dog died. Too many times, just like the lady with the 60 cats, the authorities even when they are called and called and called will not remove these poor animals. I am not saying this always happens and that we should not call, this is just what happened in my situation. I felt so bad for this beautiful Rotti. I would reach through the fence and feed him, he was a lovely dog.

Lil Sis 06-08-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JasmineNoelle (Post 4238777)
My gosh, how could any one responsibly take care of 60 cats......NOT. Why would any one get a dog only to tie/chain it outside, let alone five. Anyone with any kind of common sense would know these poor animals would become problems/threats for neighbors and animals. However, these kind of people, I believe, are selfish and do NOT care about others or their pets. They care about themselves only. We had a neighbor that had a beautiful Rotti in his very over grown back yard. They would never come out and give him any attention at all. Went for days with out food or water. Of course, we had the authorities involved, but this poor dog died. Too many times, just like the lady with the 60 cats, the authorities even when they are called and called and called will not remove these poor animals. I am not saying this always happens and that we should not call, this is just what happened in my situation. I felt so bad for this beautiful Rotti. I would reach through the fence and feed him, he was a lovely dog.


this is the type of situations that makes me so very sad and mad

The poor Rotti... that just breaks my heart. They only want to love us...

As for the pitties... that type of treatment is what could make them mean. I agree with kjc --there is more to the story. If they are fighting dogs I would guess the owners are not --well-- people I would want as friends or mad at me. Be careful..report but in a way they can't trace to you.


We have the "cat" problem here also.. not as bad.. but there are groups that will alter the cats for free so they don't breed. A long time ago there were wild cats in my yard and I fed them because I thought I was doing the right thing. I know that it is better to catch and alter.

Fritz n Sophie 06-08-2013 07:11 AM

60 cats, 5 chained up pits, such neglect makes me so mad. Be careful reporting this and make sure they can't trace it back to you. Maybe say you were in the neighborhood visiting friends and saw it. That you are just a concerned animal lover.

pstinard 06-08-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 4238764)
These are not pets. 10:1 these are fighting dogs. Nobody chains 'pets' to trees. Do they have a treadmill in the yard for the dogs? Are the dogs muscled up like they're on steroids? I would be super careful of this situation.

I agree, either fighting dogs, or security for an illegal business. Either way, it looks like a dangerous situation. If you report it to the authorities, ask that they not release your name--someone with 5 pitbulls chained up might have a mean streak.

pstinard 06-08-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz n Sophie (Post 4238796)
60 cats, 5 chained up pits, such neglect makes me so mad. Be careful reporting this and make sure they can't trace it back to you. Maybe say you were in the neighborhood visiting friends and saw it. That you are just a concerned animal lover.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Anonymous reporting works well too!

SophieKatesMom 06-08-2013 08:16 AM

I know this is a tough choice but I would report them. What kind of life is that for the Pit Bull chained to a tree.

Shame on those people, keep your kitty's safe.

ironmike86 06-08-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pstinard (Post 4238819)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Anonymous reporting works well too!

U would think. In my area I need to give my name all the time. So if you do be prepared for them to come knocking on your door.

LilAnnCamp 06-08-2013 08:45 AM

I also I had to give my info when reporting here. So, be careful.

Also, roaming cats are in danger regardless of the things you see. Can you put the cats inside?

chachi 06-08-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 4238764)
These are not pets. 10:1 these are fighting dogs. Nobody chains 'pets' to trees. Do they have a treadmill in the yard for the dogs? Are the dogs muscled up like they're on steroids? I would be super careful of this situation.

Thats what Im worried about too. I dont see any fighting equipment in their yard. When I was coming home from work I saw the owner with the pit bbulls out on his front porch

chachi 06-08-2013 09:13 AM

I didnt get a real gpod look at the pit bulls they did look well fed but I didnt notice if they look pumped up or not

Yorkiedaze 06-08-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter (Post 4238600)
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Ok, found it for your area. I was right. Anti tethering law!
Ordinances - Friends of Indianapolis Dogs Outside

But that's only between 11pm and 6am. This means they can be chained from 7am till 10pm except for unaltered dogs.

Lovetodream88 06-08-2013 11:49 AM

I would look at the rules in your county for what dogs have to have and stuff and report them if there not following any of those rules. We have certain laws about dogs being chained. At our old house the dog next door didn't have water and food so I reported it anonymously by email and they went and checked it out and emailed me back.

Marhcarter 06-09-2013 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LilAnnCamp (Post 4238860)
I also I had to give my info when reporting here. So, be careful.

Also, roaming cats are in danger regardless of the things you see. Can you put the cats inside?

They have anywhere from 20 to 30 cats inside. They have 5 cars and a motorhome in the driveway because the cats are in the garage and they have chickenwire behind the garage doors so they can open the garage doors and let the cats get air during the summer. This is quite attractive...not. The funny thing is they have one of the prettiest front yards on the street, but the back yard has 3 jetskis, a storage shed, another building for more cats (that yowl and hiss and yowl some more all night) and several other vehicles in disrepair they use for parts. This is a nice neighborhood! Not a house in the country! A house on a standard 1/4 or 1/3 acre lot. Sigh...We have lived here for 17 years and they moved in before us. Obviously, it did not look like that when we bought...We have tried trapping the ones in our yard only, in agreement with the Humane Society, but it just made them more mad at us. In reply to Chachi about them potentially throwing something in the yard to hurt Huey, he doesn't get to go in the yard. Never in the back yard and rarely in the front yard, always on leash and not until after I have walked the yard and checked it out. No, I wouldn't put it past her... Sorry. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. I will stop my rant now...:blush08:

capt_noonie 06-09-2013 07:34 PM

Isn't there any regulation about the number of dogs you can have? I know here it's three dogs per house, more than that you have to get a kennel license, even if you're not a breeder. They tried to get me to pay the kennel fee bc I have fosters here, but at the time Katie was adopted before they could pose any fee on me. Then we had our bull terrier pass away, so we are not over the 3 limit anymore.

I don't even know how they knew we had more than three. Of course some neighbor had to complain.

Marhcarter 06-09-2013 07:56 PM

I know in my county, the limit is 5 without a kennel license.

MyGirlSasha 06-09-2013 08:00 PM

idk if someone said this already but in some areas you're only allowed 3 dogs.

MyGirlSasha 06-09-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4240142)
Isn't there any regulation about the number of dogs you can have? I know here it's three dogs per house, more than that you have to get a kennel license, even if you're not a breeder. They tried to get me to pay the kennel fee bc I have fosters here, but at the time Katie was adopted before they could pose any fee on me. Then we had our bull terrier pass away, so we are not over the 3 limit anymore.

I don't even know how they knew we had more than three. Of course some neighbor had to complain.

Oh, yep someone did :p

yorkietalkjilly 06-10-2013 06:08 AM

Other than building a tall, tough fence to keep them from your yard, probably the only way you can hope to keep your dogs safe is to let them out in a heavy-cox-fence covered run that the pits cannot break into. More than one pitbull really does help heighten the pack/hunt/kill mentality at times so if more than one escapes or focuses on another animal, chances are good they might go for it as a pack.

Other than that covered heavy-fencing run/pen, using the button-operated large black umbrella to whoosh open before the dogs eyes can act as a diffuser early on to dissuade a focused dog from escalating. Tamping down a blooming arousal can really happen if the dog doesn't understand what is doing on as they often don't when they see that big umbrella bloom open with a whoosh and they do tend to go the other way - even pitbulls don't like it.

Always having a taser, extra-long catch pole(unless you are an experienced big dog handler), and any other tools you'll need to keep them off your dogs will likely be in order. These things should be kept at the ready, though tasers don't always work on a pitbull as they don't really respond that well to them or any pain or distractions in attack mode unless used on the eyes or nose, lips, inside ears, genitalia or anus - and that still won't work on some of them. Tasers usually work better discharged into the air for the scary crackle sound and energy created to discourage a pitbull from ever attacking in the first place than they do once he's engaged in his attack. You'll need to be able to get your gate open easily so you can get the pitbull out of it should one or more ever come into your yard so gate locks might not be the best idea. Heavy netting can be a huge bonus for covering, restraining a dog and you need to know how to use it.

If you can keep a camera ready to video or photograph them should they escape the yard, it will be a wonderful tool for use to prove the dogs had ways of escape from their yard and get Animal Control involved. Animal Control should be able to give you some other pointers to help keep your dogs safe from this potential danger.

I would be highly worried if I lived close to one pitbull, let alone a pack of 5! You and your Yorkies will be in my prayers. I cannot imagine why anyone would take on the liability of having 5 pitbulls and their home insurance must cost a fortune!!! With some care and preparation, hopefully you can keep your dogs safe.

yorkietalkjilly 06-10-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter (Post 4238603)
YW. Ammunition for when you call animal control! :D I am all about protecting our little ones.

I can't let my Huey outside because the neighbor next door has approx 60 cats, about 10 or 12 of which are feral and live outside, which includes my backyard. They are all bigger than Huey. We worked with our local animal control and trapped about 9 cats that were in our yard over the space of 2 weeks and took them to animal control, but they reproduce more and it is a losing battle. Unfortunately, this neighbor has "connections" so although we have had AC inspect their property & cite them, nothing will ever actually be done to them. On the other hand, the wife has threatened my dog and says if she can ever catch him, I will never see him again. Point of this story...I understand your fear and frustration.:mad:

Your yard must be covered in cat poop and urine spray everywhere! I haven't read this whole thread but I would hope AC will come rescue those hoarded cats and give you some protection against this kind of harassment. That is just awful! Cats will attack a small dog at times, even just a slap across the face with claws extended can scratch the eyes. You poor thing!

MyDearSam 06-10-2013 06:29 AM

I can't even begin to imagine the smell with that many cats! If I even get a faint whiff from Tink's box, it goes outside for a wash and bleach. And how sad for those poor pups. We only have one pit in our entire neighborhood, and she is one of the sweetest and most gentle girls I've ever seen. It's so disgusting to see how heartless fellow humans can be.


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