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star2ooo 05-17-2013 11:23 AM

help im in BIG trouble...
 
Hi I'm new please please don't judge me. I have a yorkie. She's only 7 months old. The love of my life. She went into heat. I also have a 3. Yr. Old toy male poodle. I kept him downstairs. Well. You got it. The air conditioner blew the door open I found them tied. Omg that was fast. Anyway after a stressful day I kept my poodle outside on a feature and my girl inside in her crate. Well; you guessed it she wiggled out and my hubby came home the door opened and bamm tied again. So. Now that I'm the worst mom ever....what do I do. I've been told a c section is in my future. Oh please have some kind words to help me.

kimberlyn 05-17-2013 04:34 PM

Hi there, I'm so sorry you're gong through this stressful situation. How large is your yorkie? At 7 months old most people will tell you to have an abortive spay, because she is still growing herself. That is the safest for her. I personally probably wouldn't do it myself unless the vet said it was a risky pregnancy because I don't like killing little puppies even if they aren't born yet. According to the dog breed information center about 25% of dog births require a C-section (sounds a bit high to me) and will end up costing big bucks. If you don't have the extra cash to care for such an instance that would again be another reason to have her spayed. There's a lot to think about, but I think as long as your yorkie isn't sickly or tiny she will be just fine whether you decide to go through with the pregnancy or not. EDIT: provided that if you do go through with the pregnancy, you do tons of research and watching disgusting youtube videos to prepare yourself so you can recognize the signs of labor gone wrong and know what to do to help if she needs it.

msyorktown 05-17-2013 04:45 PM

Accidents do happen. Your girl is too young and probably too small to go through a pregnancy. Personally if it were me I would have an emergency spay done asap. You could be risking your girls life to go through with this pregnancy. A C-section (which is probably what you are in for, as she is so very young) could run you upwards of about $3000.00! Not to mention the costs of caring for a litter, and the responsibility for the lives of the pups.
There are many dangers here....the very life of your pup is at risk, you could lose her as well as the puppies....please speak to your vet and have her spayed.

yorkietalkjilly 05-17-2013 05:01 PM

You didn't mention the sizes of the poodle or his grandparents or greatgrands. I'm not a breeder but I've heard them say that besides the father, it's important to know the size of the father's lineage - important even if he is small, since if one of his parents or recent ancestors was large, he could produce large puppies - too large for your female. I don't know how far back the size in either parent's lineage can affect the size of the puppies. She might not be able to carry the puppies and rupture her uterus or something.

Plus, if you know nothing about how to care for or whelp a female and have all of the supplies and medications you will need for whelping and puppy raising, you could lose your female, puppies or both. I would tend to not put her through all of that with such a young, immature female. I would check with my vet but likely the least-risky solution will be an abort-spay ASAP rather than risking a pregnancy and whelping or c-section. Plus, it is pretty tough to watch your baby girl suffering and so uncomfortable with labor and delivery! Remember, they don't get pain medicine or sub-durals.

OwnedByJezebel 05-17-2013 05:10 PM

You've been given some really good advice above --- she needs to be spayed. She is still a baby herself and her body isn't ready for this, and emotionally she won't be mature enough, either. It would be on the order of a 10-12 year old human going through childbirth and having to take care of babies.

lovespandp 05-17-2013 05:45 PM

Aww man how stressful for you! I agree I would get her spayed for sure.

lovespandp 05-17-2013 05:47 PM

P.s you are not the worse Mom, accidents happen. You just need to make sure you do the right thing for your baby.

nanahas3 05-17-2013 05:49 PM

Welcome to YT. I am sorry this happened to you also but I honestly would schedule an emergency spay. It is to much of a risk for her young body to have to go through a whelp. There would be a huge chance of losing her and the pups. It sounds like you really love her and want what is best for her. Getting her spayed right away would not cause her anymore stress I wouldn't think than if she were not pregnant. Good luck.

katienme2002 05-17-2013 05:53 PM

Emergency spay is also what I suggest. When I got my Foxy she was pregnant, and vet suspected that the puppies were too large for her to have. So I decided to have an emergency spay for her, I felt bad at first, but this girl is the love of my life and it was def. the right decision. Her puppymill days are over!

Yorkiemom1 05-17-2013 05:53 PM

For the health of your female, have her spayed immediately. You can have that done now and her health will not be at risk from a pregnancy in an essentially immature female. You have no idea what dogs are behind the male or the female, ie., in their pedigrees, and THAT is where the monsters can be lurking. While you may be looking at a small male and a small female, you could have large dogs behind them, and that could really present a problem for your female, giving birth. Dont be deterred by what the vet bill may be to have your female spayed....if she continues with the pregnancy and needs a c-section, etc., you can triple or quadruple what the cost of a spay is. Then next, have your male neutered, to prevent anymore accindental breedings.

msyorktown 05-17-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4217078)
For the health of your female, have her spayed immediately. You can have that done now and her health will not be at risk from a pregnancy in an essentially immature female. You have no idea what dogs are behind the male or the female, ie., in their pedigrees, and THAT is where the monsters can be lurking. While you may be looking at a small male and a small female, you could have large dogs behind them, and that could really present a problem for your female, giving birth. Dont be deterred by what the vet bill may be to have your female spayed....if she continues with the pregnancy and needs a c-section, etc., you can triple or quadruple what the cost of a spay is. Then next, have your male neutered, to prevent anymore accindental breedings.

Thank you for this Judy. :)
OP the poster above is a proven and respected breeder with many years behind her name....please heed the advice given. I know you want what is best for your girl....she is still a baby....please I have to reiterate, have your baby spayed.

I Wuv yorkies 05-17-2013 06:27 PM

your not a bad mom. accidents happen. but you need to get her spayed, listen to the others.

Lovetodream88 05-17-2013 09:52 PM

Accidents happen its how you handle them that really matters. Your girl is still a baby you need to get her to the vet and do an emergency spay as soon as you can.

chachi 05-18-2013 03:12 AM

How big is the yorkie how big is the poodle. If the poodle is bigger or she is a tiny yorkie my advice is to spay

Lovetodream88 05-18-2013 09:59 AM

In her blog it says the poodle is bigger so if he's 3 pounds she is way to tiny to have pups!

star2ooo 05-19-2013 06:49 PM

khloe
 
So if I get her spayed she can no longer have babies. I was asked to put my fingers on her pelvic bones. I can fit 2 fingers between the bones. I agree she's too young but I hate to fix her. Joey and her are about the same size but I do not know Thier backgrounds this is true. I did help deliver my Yorkie puppies along time ago from my dog my dad has. IM so confused. I will go ask a vet. Rt everyone.

CouversMom 05-19-2013 07:03 PM

I would definitely get her spayed... Leave the breeding to the experts. She could die giving birth :( Not worth it in my opinion!

yorkietalkjilly 05-19-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by star2ooo (Post 4218667)
So if I get her spayed she can no longer have babies. I was asked to put my fingers on her pelvic bones. I can fit 2 fingers between the bones. I agree she's too young but I hate to fix her. Joey and her are about the same size but I do not know Thier backgrounds this is true. I did help deliver my Yorkie puppies along time ago from my dog my dad has. IM so confused. I will go ask a vet. Rt everyone.

This little girl is an immature female and too young to go through this. And just because your lucked out and had a successful delivery with a dog before doesn't ensure this one will be - surely you understand that. What will you do if one or more is born and having problem breathing or your female begins to hemorrhage? I mean really pump blood from a ruptured artery or something. Are you prepared to handle that - know what to do to try to save her life until you get her to the ER vet? It's a terrible risk to take and I sure would ask myself if it is worth risking her life to maybe get 3 or 4 puppies?

msyorktown 05-19-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4218685)
This little girl is an immature female and too young to go through this. And just because your lucked out and had a successful delivery with a dog before doesn't ensure this one will be - surely you understand that. What will you do if one or more is born and having problem breathing or your female begins to hemorrhage? I mean really pump blood from a ruptured artery or something. Are you prepared to handle that - know what to do to try to save her life until you get her to the ER vet? It's a terrible risk to take and I sure would ask myself if it is worth risking her life to maybe get 3 or 4 puppies?

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laura877 05-19-2013 07:50 PM

accidental breeding
 
Years ago we raised Chihuahuas. I had a 6 lb female and a 4 lb male. You would think that would be ok but there was a time that I did have to have a c-section. After abt 3 litters she came in heat and we kept her separated from our male. But the eighbors springer spaniel came into yard and somehow bred her (we live way out in the country so we didn't have to keep a super keen eye on her every minute when she was out). She had one huge puppy and had it all by herself. Go figure.

msyorktown 05-19-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by laura877 (Post 4218697)
Years ago we raised Chihuahuas. I had a 6 lb female and a 4 lb male. You would think that would be ok but there was a time that I did have to have a c-section. After abt 3 litters she came in heat and we kept her separated from our male. But the eighbors springer spaniel came into yard and somehow bred her (we live way out in the country so we didn't have to keep a super keen eye on her every minute when she was out). She had one huge puppy and had it all by herself. Go figure.

I don't doubt that things went well for your chi, however do keep in mind that this pup is only 7mths old!
There is no way on earth I personally would risk my babies' life....she is still a baby herself.....yes accidents happen, but this one is too big a risk to take.
OP could lose her pup and/or any puppies she manages to have. Heck both momma and babies could die. IMO not worth it.

lillymae 05-19-2013 09:02 PM

I agree, she NEEDS an emergency spay ASAP especially not knowing much about her back ground. Here are a few things you NEED to look up, AAI, Chiari, Luxating Patellas. If you do not know her back ground these things can be passed on to any pups she may have & NOT worth the risk of loosing her only to bring pups into this world who may have any of these conditions.
Please do the responsible thing buy your girl & spay her ASAP.
And Welcome to YT !:)

The 4 M 05-20-2013 02:17 AM

Hi, all I can share is my experience with Molly, she was a the right age, right weight and everything worked out for the best but.... It was the most stressful worrying time in my life from the moment she tied though the pregnancy, birth, raising them, to even the unused milk in her (I thought her nips were going to burst) it was so scary, from start to finish, the thought of loosing my little girl broke me. Just my opinion your little girl is way too young to deal with this, she is still a baby herself. Accidents do happen its what you do after that's important

Teresiana 05-20-2013 02:45 AM

I'm not a breeder, but YorkieMom1 is, and she gave you some great advice. I'd hate for your 7 month old baby to have complications from this mistake. It must be very stressful for you. Good luck & please keep us posted.

jeane 05-20-2013 05:48 AM

I agree, I would have a emergency spay done. Accidents happen.

msyorktown 05-20-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by star2ooo (Post 4218667)
So if I get her spayed she can no longer have babies. I was asked to put my fingers on her pelvic bones. I can fit 2 fingers between the bones. I agree she's too young but I hate to fix her. Joey and her are about the same size but I do not know Thier backgrounds this is true. I did help deliver my Yorkie puppies along time ago from my dog my dad has. IM so confused. I will go ask a vet. Rt everyone.

I'm a little confused myself....were you planning on keeping her intact? If so why? Were you thinking of breeding her in the future?
If this is what you are/were thinking, sorry hun, not a good idea. Leave breeding to those that know what they are doing....Yorkiemom1 has given you excellent advice, I know I now sound like a broken record, please for the health, safety and very life of your girl, have her spayed.

chattiesmom 05-20-2013 06:20 AM

Sweetie, for the sake of your beloved tiny Yorkie, please schedule an immediate spay. She is far too young and small to carry and whelp. Even IF she did have a successful whelp - the stress of an early pregnancy on her still growing and developing body can have disastrous results in later years.

butterfly 05-20-2013 06:22 AM

I agree with everyone here...PLEASE get her spay immediately!!

I agree with leaving the breeding to the breeders that know what they are doing.

You would never want to pregnate a 10 year old child....this is exactly that. This little pup is just a child herself. Most breeders never mate their girls until at least 2 or three years old. They are just not mature enough to not only have babies, but the instinct to mother them properly just isn't there yet.

Accidents happen, you aren't a bad person, just do the right thing now and you won't have to feel bad anymore or worry about this happening again...

laura877 05-20-2013 07:42 AM

I didn't mean to make it sound like i thought she ought to let her go thru this. In fact I don't know what I was thinking at midnight...obvisiusly not much. But I am in agreement with everyone else.

lovespandp 05-20-2013 07:45 AM

How is your girl feeling?


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