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carollyn88 04-18-2013 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4190870)
When you say white do you mean light grey? Laddy is lighter gray on his back. Kyra had very little gold as a pup but we think she is beautiful now. I will post some pictures for you of Laddy now and Kyra as a pup. As Deb said, Kyra's mom was dark and Kyra has remained dark also.

You have beautiful dogs. The small amount of white that you have on one of your dogs. The sire of the one I'm talking about is that color all the way around except for his face as some gold.

MyFairLacy 04-18-2013 12:24 PM
It sounds like to me that the sire is very light blue and gold. Some standard colored (blue and gold) yorkies can end up with such a light blue, that they are almost a whiteish-silver, especially if they have a true silk coat. Those that breed to standard try to produce puppies that mature with a medium to dark steel blue coat, but sometimes a true silk coat will lighten as the dog ages. I personally would not have a dog that was as light as you're describing in my breeding program as it's really hard to bring color back in, but I don't mind one being a little on the lighter side. The goal is a dark steel blue, however.

Anyway, with that said, if you know the sire is that light then there could be a very good chance that your puppy will turn out that light as an adult. Also, be really careful as there are a lot of bad breeders in Texas... Good luck finding your puppy.

nanahas3 04-18-2013 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 4191402)
It sounds like to me that the sire is very light blue and gold. Some standard colored (blue and gold) yorkies can end up with such a light blue, that they are almost a whiteish-silver, especially if they have a true silk coat. Those that breed to standard try to produce puppies that mature with a medium to dark steel blue coat, but sometimes a true silk coat will lighten as the dog ages. I personally would not have a dog that was as light as you're describing in my breeding program as it's really hard to bring color back in, but I don't mind one being a little on the lighter side. The goal is a dark steel blue, however.

Anyway, with that said, if you know the sire is that light then there could be a very good chance that your puppy will turn out that light as an adult. Also, be really careful as there are a lot of bad breeders in Texas... Good luck finding your puppy.
I am not a breeder but wanted to ask since the mom is darker and the dad lighter is there more chance it will take after the sire?

MyFairLacy 04-18-2013 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4191554)
I am not a breeder but wanted to ask since the mom is darker and the dad lighter is there more chance it will take after the sire?
Hard to say. Genetics are complicated. Depends too on how strong the genetics behind the sure and dam are for their coat color too, their coat texture and what texture the pup inherited, and what genes for coat color the puppy got. Sometimes you can tell early on that a puppy will be light... Look at the color at the roots of the hair by the shoulders...if it starts to look like blue or silver early, they will probably be light as an adult.

Jacksmom052709 04-18-2013 05:52 PM
Something else to be concerned with is if the breeder has a contract for purchase - any health guarantees, etc. It could be the dad is a parti Yorkie, like my Izzy.

carollyn88 04-18-2013 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 4191402)
It sounds like to me that the sire is very light blue and gold. Some standard colored (blue and gold) yorkies can end up with such a light blue, that they are almost a whiteish-silver, especially if they have a true silk coat. Those that breed to standard try to produce puppies that mature with a medium to dark steel blue coat, but sometimes a true silk coat will lighten as the dog ages. I personally would not have a dog that was as light as you're describing in my breeding program as it's really hard to bring color back in, but I don't mind one being a little on the lighter side. The goal is a dark steel blue, however.

Anyway, with that said, if you know the sire is that light then there could be a very good chance that your puppy will turn out that light as an adult. Also, be really careful as there are a lot of bad breeders in Texas... Good luck finding your puppy.

Can you please recommend a breeder in the DFW area. I'm just so leery. I have already seen one very negative post about Shimmertime. And another man I spoke to today doesn't sound good either. IF you can recommend anybody I would appreciate it so much.

Lovetodream88 04-18-2013 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by carollyn88 (Post 4191739)
Can you please recommend a breeder in the DFW area. I'm just so leery. I have already seen one very negative post about Shimmertime. And another man I spoke to today doesn't sound good either. IF you can recommend anybody I would appreciate it so much.
I looked at there website and I would stay very far away from Shimmertime. Good breeders don't breed a dog under 5 pounds because it is a lot more dangerous and I noticed a lot of there females were 4 pounds and sadly in my opinion that shows they don't care for there females or they wouldn't put them at risk being 4 pounds. I hope someone can help you find a great breeder.

lynzy420 04-19-2013 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by carollyn88 (Post 4191739)
Can you please recommend a breeder in the DFW area. I'm just so leery. I have already seen one very negative post about Shimmertime. And another man I spoke to today doesn't sound good either. IF you can recommend anybody I would appreciate it so much.
I just want to say that above all the advice here I would go with your gut feelings on this. Your gut and your head is saying something is just not quite right. If you purchase from this breeder and have problems you are going to have serious communication issues because of the "I knew it" feelings you are having.

With that said, I absolutely would not purchase anything from this breeder, IMHO her breeding program is awful, listen to your gut. Take some time here, ask us about breeders, find someone you are absolutely comfortable with and not someone who is just making money off these precious pups...

carollyn88 04-19-2013 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 4191580)
Hard to say. Genetics are complicated. Depends too on how strong the genetics behind the sure and dam are for their coat color too, their coat texture and what texture the pup inherited, and what genes for coat color the puppy got. Sometimes you can tell early on that a puppy will be light... Look at the color at the roots of the hair by the shoulders...if it starts to look like blue or silver early, they will probably be light as an adult.

I sent a private message to your inbox, not sure if you received it or not. In fact, I've tried to send a few private messages but it shows that my sent items is empty. :confused:

carollyn88 04-19-2013 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4191813)
I just want to say that above all the advice here I would go with your gut feelings on this. Your gut and your head is saying something is just not quite right. If you purchase from this breeder and have problems you are going to have serious communication issues because of the "I knew it" feelings you are having.

With that said, I absolutely would not purchase anything from this breeder, IMHO her breeding program is awful, listen to your gut. Take some time here, ask us about breeders, find someone you are absolutely comfortable with and not someone who is just making money off these precious pups...
I agree. And as much as I want a puppy NOW, I know not to make a hasty decision. I just hope it doesn't take a year to find somebody. Actually, some one on here suggested some one to me, I called him yesterday and he will have pups soon, however, I don't see him under the AKC registration site. Is every body selling AKC puppies or even limited AKC puppies suppose to show up on this site?

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KendraE 04-19-2013 02:32 PM
Hi there... Just reading through your thread... Is the sire as light in color as the guy in my avatar pic??

Good luck on your search! Take your time!! You will find the perfect baby! Buy the breeder first, then the pup!!

And welcome to Yt!

carollyn88 04-19-2013 03:32 PM
yeah, he looked as white as yours. except I could see his whole body and it was white as well. gold around the mouth.

thank you.

Beth Boofa 04-19-2013 03:50 PM
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I took a look at him & he looked just like this middle doggie. Silver not white coat. He also has a shinny coat. With more gold around his face. They actually are cute parents.


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