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Monroe143 04-12-2013 02:53 PM
Ears weight and bone structure?
 
My puppy is now 12 weeks or 3 months should I say, in the mornings his ears stand up but as the day goes on he drops them and they don't come back up until the next day.. Is this normal or will they nvr go up? My previous yorkie that passed ears were up by 7 weeks according to the breeder I purchased her from. Also, I purchased my new puppy from a different breeder but I noticed his bones are very fragile feeling and thin.. But he eats a lot he now weight 2lbs does this mean he was poorly bred??

Bentleysmommie 04-12-2013 03:12 PM
The fact that the puppies ears are down is not a problem they will go up naturally, I would not touch them. But if they are not up by 4 months you can tape them in a pancake style with medical tape, with that support they should be up in a week or so (you should also shave the hair around the ear as it may hold them down). But if they are up in the morning they will completely stand up eventually. The ears should stand up by then as this is part of the AKC standards, although I think it looks cute. Also about the bones being fragile I would recommend a puppy vitamin just to add good vitamins to his diet. Many backyard breeders don't feed the puppy to make them seem "smaller". So then they gain weight instantly when you get them. Also remember Yorkies are not naturally small dogs so if you have a tiny one which you do you should keep a constant eye out. Hypoglycemia is common in these tiny pups.

skittlz 04-12-2013 03:16 PM
I think this is normal. one of Sonic's ears did this, eventually they will stand :)

Monroe143 04-12-2013 03:19 PM
Thank you! Bentley is my puppies name as well. I just want to make sure, online says so many things about bad breeding and the out come. I love him either way. ��

Bentleysmommie 04-12-2013 05:36 PM
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Yes lots of bad breeders but I'm sure your baby will be fine. Bentley also weighed 2lbs at 12 weeks the vet said he would be a 5 pounder :) would love to see pics of yours. This is Bentley

Lovetodream88 04-12-2013 06:30 PM
If you share the name of your breeder we might be able to tell you if he was poorly bred.

furrybaby 04-12-2013 06:38 PM
When I picked up furrybaby to bring home around 13 weeks, furrybaby's ears were leaning over a tad but by the time we came home, they were erect and have been ever since. The breeder told me I could tape them, it's all normal and nothing to worry about, but they ended up not needing tape. The structure of your baby is nothing to be concerned about either. Some yorkies are very fine boned with little muscle, they vary in weight size and are from the very best blood lines. Do you have any pictures of your puppy to share?

furrybaby 04-12-2013 06:49 PM
so to answer your question, No, it doesn't mean your yorkie was poorly bred. Post pictures when you can and those that have yorkies can give you a better opinion ;0) Weight isn't a problem either. At 32 oz at 12 weeks, it's scheduled to weigh approx 4-4.5 pounds as an adult with a 1.5 pound margin give or take. But I think 13 weeks gives an even better idea although mine isn't full grown yet but furrybaby has stayed very close to the weight chart. Do enjoy your furball and don't worry, it'll grow up to be a wonderful companion!

Monroe143 04-12-2013 08:00 PM
yes!! i love my new baby, hes such a character! so cuddly too! for the breeder, her name was judy. From the san ramon ca. Was called Judy's Yorkies. I'm not sure how to post a picture?

Lovetodream88 04-12-2013 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Monroe143 (Post 4186436)
yes!! i love my new baby, hes such a character! so cuddly too! for the breeder, her name was judy. From the san ramon ca. Was called Judy's Yorkies. I'm not sure how to post a picture?
I am sorry to tell you this but I looked up your breeder and she is not a good breeder so it is possible you pup could be poorly bred. Some of the red flags I found on her site where she uses the word teacup which is not a real thing and is only used by bad breeders, she also breeds mixes which good breeders do not do because a good breeder breeds to better the breed, she also has many types of dogs that she says she breeds which lives very little time for personal attention to each dog. It also sounds like maybe you got your puppy before 12 weeks and good breeders do not let pups leave there moms until 12 weeks. Hopefully your pup will live a long healthy life with no problems.

Bentleysmommie 04-13-2013 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4186481)
I am sorry to tell you this but I looked up your breeder and she is not a good breeder so it is possible you pup could be poorly bred. Some of the red flags I found on her site where she uses the word teacup which is not a real thing and is only used by bad breeders, she also breeds mixes which good breeders do not do because a good breeder breeds to better the breed, she also has many types of dogs that she says she breeds which lives very little time for personal attention to each dog. It also sounds like maybe you got your puppy before 12 weeks and good breeders do not let pups leave there moms until 12 weeks. Hopefully your pup will live a long healthy life with no problems.
This is a VERY ignorant statement. Let me tell you my chihuahua breeder has teacup written in her ads and she's won champion titles all throughout Canada and Puerto Rico. The term teacup is used for smaller puppies although its not AKC recognized its a common term and there is NOTHING wrong with it. As far as designer breeds many reputable love them because the good qualities of 2 breeds are combined and the puppies have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases compared with pure bred pups because pure bred pups have been interbred. I'm not saying that this breeder is good or bad but please be SURE before you put someone down the fact that they use the term teacup and have designer breeds does not make them back yard breeders!!!!!!!!!! Please don't make these ignorant statements

Lovetodream88 04-13-2013 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie (Post 4186631)
This is a VERY ignorant statement. Let me tell you my chihuahua breeder has teacup written in her ads and she's won champion titles all throughout Canada and Puerto Rico. The term teacup is used for smaller puppies although its not AKC recognized its a common term and there is NOTHING wrong with it. As far as designer breeds many reputable love them because the good qualities of 2 breeds are combined and the puppies have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases compared with pure bred pups because pure bred pups have been interbred. I'm not saying that this breeder is good or bad but please be SURE before you put someone down the fact that they use the term teacup and have designer breeds does not make them back yard breeders!!!!!!!!!! Please don't make these ignorant statements
I am SURE that breeders who use the word teacup and mix breeds are bad breeders. There are way to many mixed breeds in shelters why make more? They use the word designer to jack up the price and make it look good but its not, good breeders breed to better the breed period. Maybe you should look up some good breeders and even check out YTCA.com. Good breeders know there lines and test there dogs for genetic issues so to limit any possibility of having any pups that have genetic illnesses most sick dogs come from bad breeders. There are bad breeders that show as well as good breeders that show. I hope that being on this website you will learn about good breeders vs bad breeders I know I sure did when I joined.

lynzy420 04-13-2013 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4186481)
I am sorry to tell you this but I looked up your breeder and she is not a good breeder so it is possible you pup could be poorly bred. Some of the red flags I found on her site where she uses the word teacup which is not a real thing and is only used by bad breeders, she also breeds mixes which good breeders do not do because a good breeder breeds to better the breed, she also has many types of dogs that she says she breeds which lives very little time for personal attention to each dog. It also sounds like maybe you got your puppy before 12 weeks and good breeders do not let pups leave there moms until 12 weeks. Hopefully your pup will live a long healthy life with no problems.
All good points Taylor. I too looked up this breeder, way too many red flags.

OP your post is asking if your pup is from a bad breeder. I wouldn't panic or worry too much but this breeder is highly suspect to me so I would be vigilant in watching your puppy for any signs of illness etc. But for now just enjoy your pup! Many of us here have had bad experiences but many of us have been lucky (not me) but many others!

Your pups ears will come around but I do have 2 that their ears never did come up, despite all attempts at forcing them! I love them no matter what!

Your baby is adorable! Please stick around and learn more information about breeders and Yorkies in general, no matter how much you think you know believe me you will learn new things here!

Welcome to YT!

Lil Sis 04-14-2013 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4186838)
All good points Taylor. I too looked up this breeder, way too many red flags.

OP your post is asking if your pup is from a bad breeder. I wouldn't panic or worry too much but this breeder is highly suspect to me so I would be vigilant in watching your puppy for any signs of illness etc. But for now just enjoy your pup! Many of us here have had bad experiences but many of us have been lucky (not me) but many others!

Your pups ears will come around but I do have 2 that their ears never did come up, despite all attempts at forcing them! I love them no matter what!

Your baby is adorable! Please stick around and learn more information about breeders and Yorkies in general, no matter how much you think you know believe me you will learn new things here!

Welcome to YT!

It doesn't do any good to "close the barn door after the cows get out" at this point I agree with Lynz... love and enjoy your puppy. Watch for health issues and learn. Next time research before buying the puppy. I would have purchased differently if I knew what I know now... but then I wouldn't have Remy!

Bentleysmommie 04-14-2013 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4186646)
I am SURE that breeders who use the word teacup and mix breeds are bad breeders. There are way to many mixed breeds in shelters why make more? They use the word designer to jack up the price and make it look good but its not, good breeders breed to better the breed period. Maybe you should look up some good breeders and even check out YTCA.com. Good breeders know there lines and test there dogs for genetic issues so to limit any possibility of having any pups that have genetic illnesses most sick dogs come from bad breeders. There are bad breeders that show as well as good breeders that show. I hope that being on this website you will learn about good breeders vs bad breeders I know I sure did when I joined.
No your not sure because Malti-poos are extraordinary dogs, Morkies are to die for. Many designer breeds are healthier than pure bred dogs. Please do your research on this topic. All my dogs are purebred and I wouldn't buy a designer breed but I do know the facts and there's a diffrence between mixing 2 random dogs and choosing 2 healthy dogs with gorgeous characteristics to complement each other. Aren't you aware that the yorkie you have now was once cross bred to look the way it does?? Waterside Terrier now known as the Yorkshire terrier was a breed formed by the crossing of the old rough-coated Black-and-Tan English Terrier (common in the Manchester area) and the Paisley and Clydesdale Terriers.

Please watch this video.

Bentleysmommie 04-14-2013 08:35 AM
A red flag to me on her website would be the face she doesn't have pedigree, the sires and dams. Looks like a pet store rather than a dog breeder, looks like she may be a newby website is plain.

Melany 04-14-2013 08:44 AM
oh my goodness!

Lovetodream88 04-14-2013 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie (Post 4187274)
No your not sure because Malti-poos are extraordinary dogs, Morkies are to die for. Many designer breeds are healthier than pure bred dogs. Please do your research on this topic. All my dogs are purebred and I wouldn't buy a designer breed but I do know the facts and there's a diffrence between mixing 2 random dogs and choosing 2 healthy dogs with gorgeous characteristics to complement each other. Aren't you aware that the yorkie you have now was once cross bred to look the way it does?? Waterside Terrier now known as the Yorkshire terrier was a breed formed by the crossing of the old rough-coated Black-and-Tan English Terrier (common in the Manchester area) and the Paisley and Clydesdale Terriers.

Please watch this video.
Dogs 101 Yorkshire Terrier - YouTube
I have done my research and I still stand firm that mixing dogs is bad.

TxVicki 04-14-2013 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie (Post 4187274)
No your not sure because Malti-poos are extraordinary dogs, Morkies are to die for. Many designer breeds are healthier than pure bred dogs. Please do your research on this topic. All my dogs are purebred and I wouldn't buy a designer breed but I do know the facts and there's a diffrence between mixing 2 random dogs and choosing 2 healthy dogs with gorgeous characteristics to complement each other. Aren't you aware that the yorkie you have now was once cross bred to look the way it does?? Waterside Terrier now known as the Yorkshire terrier was a breed formed by the crossing of the old rough-coated Black-and-Tan English Terrier (common in the Manchester area) and the Paisley and Clydesdale Terriers.

Please watch this video.
Dogs 101 Yorkshire Terrier - YouTube
Good Grief.

TxVicki 04-14-2013 09:53 AM
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Nancy1999 04-14-2013 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie (Post 4186631)
This is a VERY ignorant statement. Let me tell you my chihuahua breeder has teacup written in her ads and she's won champion titles all throughout Canada and Puerto Rico. The term teacup is used for smaller puppies although its not AKC recognized its a common term and there is NOTHING wrong with it. As far as designer breeds many reputable love them because the good qualities of 2 breeds are combined and the puppies have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases compared with pure bred pups because pure bred pups have been interbred. I'm not saying that this breeder is good or bad but please be SURE before you put someone down the fact that they use the term teacup and have designer breeds does not make them back yard breeders!!!!!!!!!! Please don't make these ignorant statements
Winning championships doesn't make them a good breeder either. Unfortunately many champions are beset with health problems. Your information is wrong about mixed breeds have the good qualities of two breeds, they could also get the "BAD" qualities of both breeds. Also, they don't have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases, no matter what you read on a breeder’s website. The people here are free to give their opinion on a breeder because of what’s written on a website and selling “teacups” and mixed breeds are two huge red flags.

TxVicki 04-14-2013 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie (Post 4186631)
This is a VERY ignorant statement. Let me tell you my chihuahua breeder has teacup written in her ads and she's won champion titles all throughout Canada and Puerto Rico. The term teacup is used for smaller puppies although its not AKC recognized its a common term and there is NOTHING wrong with it. As far as designer breeds many reputable love them because the good qualities of 2 breeds are combined and the puppies have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases compared with pure bred pups because pure bred pups have been interbred. I'm not saying that this breeder is good or bad but please be SURE before you put someone down the fact that they use the term teacup and have designer breeds does not make them back yard breeders!!!!!!!!!! Please don't make these ignorant statements

Then can I suugest you do the same !!!!

Amazing Yorkies 04-14-2013 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4187332)
Winning championships doesn't make them a good breeder either. Unfortunately many champions are beset with health problems. Your information is wrong about mixed breeds have the good qualities of two breeds, they could also get the "BAD" qualities of both breeds. Also, they don't have a 35% less chance of hereditary diseases, no matter what you read on a breeder’s website. The people here are free to give their opinion on a breeder because of what’s written on a website and selling “teacups” and mixed breeds are two huge red flags.
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Nancy1999 04-14-2013 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Monroe143 (Post 4186217)
My puppy is now 12 weeks or 3 months should I say, in the mornings his ears stand up but as the day goes on he drops them and they don't come back up until the next day.. Is this normal or will they nvr go up? My previous yorkie that passed ears were up by 7 weeks according to the breeder I purchased her from. Also, I purchased my new puppy from a different breeder but I noticed his bones are very fragile feeling and thin.. But he eats a lot he now weight 2lbs does this mean he was poorly bred??
To answer you other questions, the puppy's weight is just fine, but your puppy may be teething and ears will drop. Teething takes calcium away from the cartilage causing the ears to drop. Make sure you keep the top third of the ear front and back shaved and this help keeps the weight down. I used an eyebrow clipper when Joey was young. Eyebrow Clipper Some people recommend massage or even supplements. There are also detailed instructions on taping the ear if you do a search. It's necessary to shave the whole ear if you tape it.

Amazing Yorkies 04-14-2013 10:10 AM
Eyebrow clipper is a great idea. I've always used mustache groomers, but I bet eyebrow clippers are even safer. Thanks for the tip. We never quit learning :)

Nancy1999 04-14-2013 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies (Post 4187346)
Eyebrow clipper is a great idea. I've always used mustache groomers, but I bet eyebrow clippers are even safer. Thanks for the tip. We never quit learning :)
Yeah, I tried the mustache groomer, but I wasn't able to get the hair around the ear without hurting him. With this, you don't have to use a scissors around the ear and there's no chance of nicks. It's also very quiet.

kjc 04-14-2013 10:33 AM
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BabyGirl Rosie 04-14-2013 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4186838)
All good points Taylor. I too looked up this breeder, way too many red flags.

OP your post is asking if your pup is from a bad breeder. I wouldn't panic or worry too much but this breeder is highly suspect to me so I would be vigilant in watching your puppy for any signs of illness etc. But for now just enjoy your pup! Many of us here have had bad experiences but many of us have been lucky (not me) but many others!

Your pups ears will come around but I do have 2 that their ears never did come up, despite all attempts at forcing them! I love them no matter what!

Your baby is adorable! Please stick around and learn more information about breeders and Yorkies in general, no matter how much you think you know believe me you will learn new things here!

Welcome to YT!
We have all been educated to look for these red flags. Being from a state with many BYB's, these are terms that they commonly use to sell more pups. Being on YT a long time has caused us to see so many stories. That's why the red flags puts us on high alert.

However, like Lynzy said, don't worry with that now. Just enjoy your pup!

Summerbummer 04-14-2013 11:53 AM
For the ears, Jasper took the longest out of the litter for them to stand up. One ear went up for a month or so, then the other came up. And this was when he was about 4 months, they both sat up. I was worried for a while, cause his litter, they all had ears up. apart from the girl. His daddy actually had a perament one ear up, and one ear down.

He's the skinniest out of the litter, and smallest. I think 1lb and a 1/2, or under. the majority were 2lb. He is started to fill out more now. under 7lbs if he is not sick.

He has a very long body, when he stretches. but can curl up so small when he wants.

I wouldn't worry ;)

gracielove 04-14-2013 12:58 PM
It does sound like your pup may have a bit of a calcium deficency since his ears seem to go down after he has been up and about during the day. Adding a little cottage cheese or plain yogurt to his food or as a treat daily may help.

If a Yorkie has ancestors with ears that did not stay up he may have inherited the same issue. Helping him along by trimming the ear tips, as stated, may be helpful. I have read about tapping the ears and some people have had success doing that. A lot does depend on genetics though.

Getting your info about Yorkies from successful professional breeders is usually much more helpful than watching animal planet. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America would be your best source of Yorkie information. Of course the library here on YT is also very informative. YT has some very informed reputable breeders as well.


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