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lynzy420 07-22-2013 09:17 PM
Amy seriously? You are cutting and pasting from such sites as this?
Are Mixed Breed Dogs Healthier Than Purebreds? | DESERTWINDHOUNDS

You are going to great lengths to justify something I'm not sure you even know you believe in....Your so embroiled in "winning" a lost cause, THE ONLY REASON TO BREED IS TO BETTER A BREED NOT TO MAKE MUTTS" Your rationale is baseless, really...especially with sites like the one you are quoting. Step back and look at what you are trying to prove. You are trying to justify the bucu dollars you spent on a mutt....hon you got robbed, plain and simple...she is committing highway robbery and making money off the backs of pups the easy way....because she can't follow rules and follow a path that has proven it is the only right one....

amyazer 07-22-2013 10:02 PM
I posted
not my words but I guess it.dnt.send

lynzy420 07-22-2013 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4277922)
I posted
not my words but I guess it.dnt.send
that's happens sometimes.

TxVicki 07-23-2013 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4277915)
Amy seriously? You are cutting and pasting from such sites as this?
Are Mixed Breed Dogs Healthier Than Purebreds? | DESERTWINDHOUNDS

You are going to great lengths to justify something I'm not sure you even know you believe in....Your so embroiled in "winning" a lost cause, THE ONLY REASON TO BREED IS TO BETTER A BREED NOT TO MAKE MUTTS" Your rationale is baseless, really...especially with sites like the one you are quoting. Step back and look at what you are trying to prove. You are trying to justify the bucu dollars you spent on a mutt....hon you got robbed, plain and simple...she is committing highway robbery and making money off the backs of pups the easy way....because she can't follow rules and follow a path that has proven it is the only right one....
Oh my gosh, so seriously she can't use her own and has to copy and paste something to pretend it's her. SHAME, SHAME. .

Rhetts_mama 07-23-2013 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4277915)
Amy seriously? You are cutting and pasting from such sites as this?
Are Mixed Breed Dogs Healthier Than Purebreds? | DESERTWINDHOUNDS

You are going to great lengths to justify something I'm not sure you even know you believe in....Your so embroiled in "winning" a lost cause, [COLOR="THE ONLY REASON TO BREED IS TO BETTER A BREED NOT TO MAKE MUTTS" Your rationale is baseless, really...especially with sites like the one you are quoting. Step back and look at what you are trying to prove. You are trying to justify the bucu dollars you spent on a mutt....hon you got robbed, plain and simple...she is committing highway robbery and making money off the backs of pups the easy way....because she can't follow rules and follow a path that has proven it is the only right one....
This!

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The way to start a good mixed breeding program is by getting two Akc pure breds that have great bloodlines...say i wanted to start breeding good lines thats how i would do it...no one hear can disagree with that...
Actually, I absolutely CAN and DO disagree with that. There is NO such beast as a "good" mixed breeding program. Ask yourself, why is it that when someone wants a "Morkie", they breed a Maltese and a Yorkie and not 2 existing Morkies? It's because you can not predict the breeding outcome among them. The point of a breeding program is to enhance certain traits while eliminating others. You have absolutely zero chance of that when you breed 2 mutts.

amyazer 07-23-2013 08:19 AM
i would always breed to get f1 generations you assumed again

Rhetts_mama 07-23-2013 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278138)
i would always breed to get f1 generations you assumed again
So when you breed for F1, you are NOT creating a breed and you are Not improving genetic diversity. Your argument fails.

amyazer 07-23-2013 08:43 AM
Purebred-A x Purebred-B = F1 Hybrid Dog

F1 x Purebred-A = F1b Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1 = F2 Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1b = F2b Hybrid Dog

F2 x F2 = F3 Hybrid Dog

luvlee 07-23-2013 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278138)
i would always breed to get f1 generations you assumed again
I don't think the average person can just do that. Otherwise, we'd have so many more "breeds" than are currently recognized.

Consider the Biewer, for example. It's been more than 30 years in the making -- all started by an expert breeder -- and yet there are still issues and concerns and unanswered questions today. And there are many professional breeders involved with the betterment of the Biewer.

It's daunting. You're over-simplifying the process. That's dangerous!

Rhetts_mama 07-23-2013 08:49 AM
I'm fully aware of what an F1 generation is. What you failed to answer, again, is why Morkie (or other mutt breeders) don't breed mutt to mutt. What you fail to understand is that a hybrid is not a breed.

TxVicki 07-23-2013 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278153)
Purebred-A x Purebred-B = F1 Hybrid Dog

F1 x Purebred-A = F1b Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1 = F2 Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1b = F2b Hybrid Dog

F2 x F2 = F3 Hybrid Dog
Good Grief, some things and people just make me want to throw up. This is sick!!!!!

Rhetts_mama 07-23-2013 09:07 AM
Be honest, it's not done for the betterment of genetics. It's done for vanity and greed. Because there truly is a sucker born every minute

amyazer 07-23-2013 09:11 AM
seriously im dont with this topic call me a "loser" call yourself winners i dont care im over it...ill just to continue to explore the threads
thanks bye

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4277906)
The way to start a good mixed breeding program is by getting two Akc pure breds that have great bloodlines...say i wanted to start breeding good lines thats how i would do it...no one hear can disagree with that...ALL of you are confusing puppymills and brokers for what Im saying your assuming that these mixed breed lines arent accounting for. now if i was a bb then yes i would just take any two dogs and breed them together this is a person trying to use dogs as profit gain however when a person is interested in genuinely breeding mixed dogs together to explore the genetic gene pool that is a different situation. You mixed the two situations up bb breeders and a knowledgeable breeder (AKC or not)...
Because you never know what your going to get when you mix two dogs together a lot of them become what the owner did not want so the owner gets rid of them. The rule of breeding is to better the breed mutt is not a breed therefore your not following the first rule of breeding and your just making more of what we already have thousands of in shelters. Nothing you say is going to convince educated people on here that breeding mixes is ok because it simply is not ever under no circumstances.

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278175)
seriously im dont with this topic call me a "loser" call yourself winners i dont care im over it...ill just to continue to explore the threads
thanks bye
woohoo party time :happyboun


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