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cajungal 12-21-2005 08:53 AM

Very Bad news from our breeder-can't stop crying
 
:cry: After still not hearing from this lady that we were supposed to get a puppy from, my dad decided to call again. I can't stop crying as I type this. Both yorkies had their puppies and they all died. They were too small. I am just devastated. I feel so bad for this lady to have to go through this as well. She was starting to get so attached to these puppies and she just loves them. I feel bad for the 2 mama dogs too. I am glad they did not die giving birth. We have 1 other lady we may be getting a puppy from. Her yorkie is due around New Years Eve. I am so worried that her puppies might not make it either. Her yorkie is only 3.5 pounds. That is why we never tried to breed our yorkie Lacey. (She was only 4 pounds.) I am just so sad right now. I guess it is just not meant for me to have another yorkie right now. But, it is all I think about. I had to have Lacey die and then have my possible new puppy die too. I can't take any more loss or heartbreak.

Lucky's Mom 12-21-2005 08:56 AM

I'm so sorry to hear this! I will keep you in my thoughts. Don't give up, I'm sure the right puppy is out there for you! :)

hle_625 12-21-2005 08:57 AM

I am so sorry to hear this news, I think that you are right maybe she did not have the yorkie that was right for you, everything happens for a reason and maybe your new little baby just wasnt in that litter. I hope that everything turns out ok with this other litter that you are waiting on the mom seems to be a little small so I will keep her in my thoughts for a healthy delivery.

yorkieusa 12-21-2005 09:01 AM

That's so sad. I'm sorry that happened. You say the other yorkie is only 3.5 lb and I wouldn't want a puppy from one so small. That's just too tiny to be bred. That's cruel to me. I'd look elsewhere.

shelbysmom 12-21-2005 09:17 AM

I am so sorry. I know you must be VERY sad and I really feel for you. Take some time off then start fresh with your search. I would try to find a breeder who breeds 5lb. mothers.

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:20 AM

I would also definately try to find a breeder that has a larger female mommy. I know you are strapped for cash, but waiting longer to find the perfect pup is alot better that the heartbreak of losing one because the mommy was too small. Good luck and I am sorry to hear your news.

Gir & Bing 12-21-2005 09:23 AM

I know 2 in NC. Great price, good dogs, they're more active though, but from the one breeder terri their trained on litter boxes when you get them. She has a batch ready in February. The other guy George has mini tea-cups from a nice mom who jumps on anyone's lap and they're going for $700 male, $800 female (mom's 2.5 pounds, dad's 3.4)

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gir & Bing
The other guy George has mini tea-cups from a nice mom who jumps on anyone's lap and they're going for $700 male, $800 female (mom's 2.5 pounds, dad's 3.4)


Oh shat...here we go... :mad:

cajungal 12-21-2005 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gir & Bing
I know 2 in NC. Great price, good dogs, they're more active though, but from the one breeder terri their trained on litter boxes when you get them. She has a batch ready in February. The other guy George has mini tea-cups from a nice mom who jumps on anyone's lap and they're going for $700 male, $800 female (mom's 2.5 pounds, dad's 3.4)

Thanks, but I can't travel to NC. It has to be somewhere in Louisiana. No more than an hour drive from my home. I have been checking my local paper for months and not a single listing for a yorkie. And I was not looking for a T-cup actually. 4-5 pound yorkie. The lady in Thibodaux yorkie does weigh 3.5 pounds, but she did have 2 previous litters. And they survived. This is her 3rd litter. We already met this lady and her yorkie. She does take excellent care of her yorkie. Home raised and very strict with her diet, vet care, etc... The size of the mom does concern me and I am worried. But, I will still call her around the last week of December to see the outcome. We still might not be able to get one of her puppies anyway. Because 1 female is promised to her daughter, and pick of the litter is promised to the lady that she used the stud from. (And I have a strong feeling she will pick a female.) So, we are basically 3rd in line and my mom only wants a female. 4 puppies are expected.

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:30 AM

5.....

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:30 AM

4.....

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:31 AM

3..... :embarasse

yorkiemom1970 12-21-2005 09:32 AM

2....

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:33 AM

2.....(duck and cover)

yorkiemom1970 12-21-2005 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
2.....(duck and cover)

oops you beat me to the 2...

:D :D :D

My2Furbabies 12-21-2005 09:35 AM

That is sooo sad! :cry: I am sorry for all of you! I hope you find the baby you are looking for! :hug:

Babbie 12-21-2005 09:35 AM

it is so sad for the pups...and i am sorry you wonl't be getting your yorkie this time...that is why so many are against breeding such small yorkies...i hope the moms are okay!

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:35 AM

Ha ha...you know it's coming...1...

MasonsMommy 12-21-2005 09:36 AM

1.............
 
1...... and Go!

livingdustmops 12-21-2005 09:36 AM

:zip: :zip: :zip: :zip:

MasonsMommy 12-21-2005 09:39 AM

From an earlier post
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasonsMommy
1...... and Go!


I am borrowing this from an earlier post
Please read:

If you are in the market for a teacup Yorkie, then what you are shopping for is a premature dog.

Yorkies are among the newest breeds of dogs and were originally bred to be about 15 pounds when full grown. We pocket-sized them down to a mere 5 to 7 pounds (the current AKC “breed standard”). Now, thanks to celebrities toting them around for the cameras, the demand is for even smaller dogs – the smaller the better. Except for one thing: they are NOT supposed to be that small. It is fine for a Yorkie to drink from a teacup, but they shouldn’t fit in a teacup.

In order to force a puppy that tiny, irresponsible breeders breed females that are too small to be having puppies in the first place and are therefore unable to have them naturally. Keep in mind, a dog, especially one kept in a cage in another building far from human inhabitants, cannot rush to the hospital when she goes into labor and needs an emergency caesarian.

To further increase the chance of tiny dogs, the breeder throws the female in with more than one male for more than one day in the hopes that she will have multiple pregnancies in one litter. The result is often more puppies in one litter than can be safely carried. The more puppies she can squeeze into that tiny body, the less room there is for the puppies to grow. – viola! tiny puppies!

The end result is a puppy who has perhaps a 50% chance at living more than a few weeks. Because your desire for a tiny dog was more important than having a healthy dog, that premature puppy’s organs and other body parts will not be fully developed.

Adorable little Mini battles Atlantoxaial Instability and Chiari Malformation and a liver shunt and Hydrocephalus. What do all these big words mean? It means Mini’s body did not develop fully. This beautiful little girl is dying. Her legs do not work. Her liver does not work properly. Each day it gets more difficult for her to lift her head. Mini knows it and she’s not happy about it. She wants to run and play, but her body doesn’t cooperate. Because the breeder could not sell her, she gave her to PMR. PMR is doing everything possible to give this little girl a chance to grow up healthy.

The saddest part of this story is that, to the breeder, Mini is just overhead – the cost of doing business. Beautiful little puppies die all the time in her business and Mini is just one more. Because she does not care about the health of the dogs, she will breed another Mini and another and another and another and another…

As long as people are willing to buy the ones she can sell before they die, she will keep doing what she is doing. And beautiful little lives will be wasted because of greed and the reckless pursuit of fashion.

Mini has a chance. Thanks to PuppyMillRescue and the foster moms and others who care enough to skip lunches and send money they cannot really spare to pay for her multiple surgeries. To us, Mini is more than the cost of doing business. She is a beautiful little puppy – one who feels fear and frustration and pain and sadness and determination and, we hope, will one day know joy and good health. We watch and we wait and we pray and we cry. Maybe Mini will make it to see her first birthday. We hope so. We try not to think of all the others just like her who never make it this far.

So, while you shop for your tiny Yorkie pup, please keep Mini in mind. If you want a companion who will love you no matter what, then adopt a rescue. There are millions of wonderful, beautiful pups just waiting for a good home.

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:42 AM

Right on que MasonsMommy! WTG! :yelrotflm

Raven 12-21-2005 09:43 AM

I am so sorry to hear your news. Would you be able to go to a dogshow and talk to some of the breeders there? I think some breeders go just to watch - maybe you could make some connections. Anyway, best of luck to you!!!!!!

crystalsmom 12-21-2005 09:47 AM

I have some help with breeders in La. that do ethical breeding. Beats me if you would
not breed Lacey at 4 lb, why you would go to someone breeding a dam 3 1/2 lb??

Shenanegans
Cathy Cardia
ccardia@rcn.com
978 667 1761

Hi Hopes
Cheryl Kroll
HiHopes@verizon.net
508 765 1375

Hytor
Gillian B. Wilson
413 863 8217 no emil maybe by the phone #'s you can tell which is closest to you

On the phone you can get an idea of what type of breeding they are doing and get
a ballpark figure of what they charge and maybe by the time they have pups you will
have saved enough. Hope this helps. After my yorkie died it took me a year and 5 mos to find what I wanted. Did you ever look at the National Rescue Site??

cajungal 12-21-2005 09:51 AM

These yorkie mothers were not super tiny. My mom spoke to her on the phone and said both mothers were nearly 5 pounds. I am very sad to hear the news. But, I am not going to stop with my search. It may take a little longer before we have Chloe, but I am not going to stop with my search. One day she will be happily safe in my arms and I won't be hurting so bad anymore. This is a very difficult time for me. My first Christmas without my Lacey and what would of been her 14th birthday is coming up in a few weeks. I have been very depressed and knowing these puppies did not make it added to my pain and heartbreak.

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalsmom
I have some help with breeders in La. that do ethical breeding. Beats me if you would
not breed Lacey at 4 lb, why you would go to someone breeding a dam 3 1/2 lb??

I would make one wonder, wouldn't it... :rolleyes: :thumbup:

cajungal 12-21-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalsmom
I have some help with breeders in La. that do ethical breeding. Beats me if you would
not breed Lacey at 4 lb, why you would go to someone breeding a dam 3 1/2 lb??

Shenanegans
Cathy Cardia
ccardia@rcn.com
978 667 1761

Hi Hopes
Cheryl Kroll
HiHopes@verizon.net
508 765 1375

Hytor
Gillian B. Wilson
413 863 8217 no emil maybe by the phone #'s you can tell which is closest to you

On the phone you can get an idea of what type of breeding they are doing and get
a ballpark figure of what they charge and maybe by the time they have pups you will
have saved enough. Hope this helps. After my yorkie died it took me a year and 5 mos to find what I wanted. Did you ever look at the National Rescue Site??

None of those area codes even look familiar at all. They don't even look like Louisiana area codes. I live 60 miles southwest of New Orleans. (Houma-Thibodaux area.) Yes, we looked at rescue site, no yorkies in our area. While we do feel sorry for yorkies from rescues and would love to give him or her a home, we don't want one with health problems. And we would really like a puppy. And again, I was NOT searching for a yorkie mom that was 3.5 pounds. I saw her ad, called her up, and met her. She only lives 5 miles away. I am not looking for a super tiny yorkie, but we are still willing to see what happens with her yorkie and the puppies.

BamaFan121s 12-21-2005 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=cajungal]Yes, we looked at rescue site, no yorkies in our area. While we do feel sorry for yorkies from rescues and would love to give him or her a home, we don't want one with health problems.QUOTE]

The health issues part is very understandable if that is what you are worried about. I am quite sure that a pup from a 3.5 lb mother would help you avoid this completely... :confused:

y0rkieL0ver 12-21-2005 10:01 AM

hey, just wanted to let you know that those area codes are all in massachusetts. i am so sorry about all those puppie, but i wish you the best in your search- have faith, your baby IS out there!!!!<333

Babbie 12-21-2005 10:03 AM

Good luck on you search and choose wisely, hope you can get your new baby soon :)


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