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doggirl · 01-24-2013, 07:49 AM

Hi everyone!
I've been wanting a yorkie for about 2 years (this would be my first dog that is all my responsibility). I love them!
First, anyone know of a reputable yorkie breeder in Ontario, Canada (preferably near Toronto)?
Also, is it unrealistic to think I'd be able to train certain qualities out of my yorkie? Based on the yorkies I babysit, these would be- excessive barking at the slightest sound or when anyone comes to the door, hostility and aggression towards other dogs and some people (I'm assuming this is the result of poor socialization...) and excessive clinginess (they follow me EVERYWHERE- even if I walk two steps and come back!)
Thanks for the info!!

lovespandp · 01-24-2013, 08:30 AM

Hello!! Welcome to YT! I think Yorkies are the best breed out there- I don’t think you should judge a Yorkie on what you see in the Yorkies you babysit- sounds to me like they have not be trained properly or socialized, the only thing my Yorkies does out of those things you mentioned it follow me everywhere- Also Yorkies are very smart and can be trained to do anything-

If I had the chance to get another Yorkie I would- I am so thankful I have my little guy- he is the best dog!

Yorkies are time consuming and are more expensive to up keep- If you have the time, and financial ability to take care of one, then I would tell you to get one in a heartbeat!

Verbena · 01-24-2013, 08:43 AM

Hello and welcome to YT. Check out YTCA for reputable breeders. Make sure you ask lots of questions Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club

OwnedByJezebel · 01-24-2013, 09:05 AM

I don't have any advice on where to find your pup in Ontario, I'm sure others will be able to help with that, but I do want to say something about the temperament issue.

My first two Yorkies were rehomes, I got both of them (several years apart) when they were about a year old.

The first one wasn't keen on strangers (although he did not have any issues with us when we got him). He wouldn't attack people outright, he would ignore them, but if they tried to pet him, he would snap. He was also a bad resource guarder. If a stranger left him alone, they would never know he had these issues. I attribute this to him being essentially raised in a pack of wild Yorkies by a bad breeder.

The second was rehomed to me by a show breeder that had decided that she wouldn't make the cut in the show world. She was great with people, but hated all other dogs (except our Maltese). Strange dogs were always something she could not abide. We just kept her away from strange dogs.

When I got Jezebel, I picked her out of her litter. She was rough-housing with her litter mates, then she noticed me walk up and she ran over, wagging her tail and wiggling. Then she ran back to her litter mates and started playing again. After a minute or so, she noticed my husband, and ran over wagging and wiggling to meet him, then back to play.

Her 2 sisters never acknowledged any of the humans, but they would play with her when she initiated play (she was the ring-leader). Her brother just stayed off to himself, never greeted any humans, and did not want to play. I often wonder how they turned out, personality-wise, based on how I saw them interact that day.

To this day, Jezebel is still a social butterfly. When she goes to the dog park, she tries to get every dog to play. She stops whatever she is doing whenever someone new walks in the gate and runs to meet them, greeting them and their dog. She is quiet, and only barks when the front door bell rings. When she wants something, she has this low wookie-like groan. When the lawn crew is in the back yard, she sees them outside but totally ignores them. When another dog is not nice to her, she totally gives in and does not escalate the situation, but she doesn't give up, either. She waits a few seconds and tries to initiate greeting again and tries to pull them out. It's like she is saying "see, I'm not a threat, but I'm coming back because I still want to be friends!" There have been dogs at the dog park that she works with until they finally start to play. I've seen two different owners that were amazed at what she did, because they had never been able to get their dogs to play with other dogs at the park until they me Jez.

I got another rehome when both Jezebel and the rehome were about a year old. He is great with all people but is a little she with other dogs, but warms up after a bit, no aggression. He does bark when the front door bell rings and when he is playing, but otherwise he is quiet. He doesn't have the spunky terrier attitude that Jezebel does. He wants to be in laps, she is independent and has no jealousy, so she couldn't care less when he hops up in one of our laps. They love each other and they are a good fit together. We only need ONE ring-leader!

My current dogs love going places. The dog park, walks, even boarding and to the vet. I only board 2-3 times a year (maybe 10 days total), but when we get there they are so excited and they go with the handler, so excited to see her, and never even look back at me when they leave the lobby. One of the professional trainers there (who trains agility, conformation, and obedience for competition) gave Jez and Chuy temperament tests (required if they are going to be allowed to play with other dogs), and they passed with flying colors. They received no special training before the evaluation, it was just their natural personalities.

I guess my point is not to base your opinion on the Yorkies that your have babysat. If you are able to see the dynamics of the litter when you pick out your pup, you just might be able to see what kind of temperament to expect as an adult. With Jezebel, I was able to observe her in the litter, with my rehome, a very sweet gentle boy, I did not and I was not the one that did his first year of training.

They aren't all yappy, neurotic, and anti-social. Choose carefully and you will get the proper spunky terrier attitude that is balanced and friendly. I don't think mine are the way that they are because of training, I think they were largely born with these personalities and they were properly nurtured, because I did not try to change their personalities in any way.

Yorkiemom1 · 01-24-2013, 09:20 AM

Yorkies consider themselves a family member, and are attached to you. All they want to do is to spend their time with you, whether you both are out in the yard playing, or going for a walk, or cooking in the kitchen, or sweing in your craft room, or sitting watching TV or a movie. The just assume you want to be with them as much as they want to be with you....they do NOT do well, off to themselves, not included in the family. Some dogs will come for a pet or praise, then go off and play by themselves, or doze by off by themselves....dont get a Yorkie if you do not want that baby to be attached to you, doing and going with you from room to room, etc. That is what makes them so loyal, devoted, and endearing!!! You can not "train" that out of them...that is what God put them here to do, and they do it very well!!!!

AngelFae · 01-24-2013, 09:22 AM

My husband did NOT want a puppy, especially not a "Yappy little muskie-bait Yorkie!" but he has fallen in love because we haven't allowed Blazer to become that stereotype. I think that all dogs (and children) are what you make them. They can be trained not to be snotty, yappy, snappy, brats. Or they can be trained TO be that way! LOL!

doggirl · 01-24-2013, 09:33 AM

Thanks for the responses!
I know the dogs I babysit have some issues but I still absolutely LOVE them. They're the highlight of my day. It just gets tiring having to pick them up every time we walk past other dogs so they don't attack, and also they give me NO space. They even cry outside the bathroom door! This doesn't bother anyone who has one?
What about yorkie mixes (yorkie poos, morkies, etc.)- are they a tad more OK with doing their own thing sometimes?

lovespandp · 01-24-2013, 04:32 PM

The dogs you watch could be more dependent on you because they are not with their human Mom. Peanut’s dependence for me doesn't bother me at all! I love the attention he gives me- Being a male he is very close to me- when I am laying down he is either sitting on my chest, or laying next to me- He follows me around, but not to the point where he goes in the bathroom with me, he has before- but it isn’t all the time.

msyorktown · 01-24-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by doggirl

Hi everyone!
I've been wanting a yorkie for about 2 years (this would be my first dog that is all my responsibility). I love them!
First, anyone know of a reputable yorkie breeder in Ontario, Canada (preferably near Toronto)?
Also, is it unrealistic to think I'd be able to train certain qualities out of my yorkie? Based on the yorkies I babysit, these would be- excessive barking at the slightest sound or when anyone comes to the door, hostility and aggression towards other dogs and some people (I'm assuming this is the result of poor socialization...) and excessive clinginess (they follow me EVERYWHERE- even if I walk two steps and come back!)
Thanks for the info!!

I am in Whitby, Ontario, there are several wonderful breeder in the GTA...Adanta Yorkshire Terriers I believe they are in Midland Ontario...Vickylyn is in Ajax, Dayjuel in Oshawa...the list goes on...wish I had found this site before I got my first two, got them from a byb!
Welcome to YT!

Lemon tree · 01-24-2013, 05:54 PM

Hi I can certainly understand your desire for a Yorkie. Yorkies are by far one of the best breeds of dogs for companionship. I consider them much much more than just a dog. I have had several Yorkies who have passed away and each have a very special place in my heart and always will. With my Yorkie, as with any close friend or loved one you want to be with them as much as you possibly can because you love them very dearly...you cherish them. You love them unconditionally just as they love you. Vinny my Yorkie now is helping me each day just being at my side, following me, he is my buddy. I am facing some health issues he is my loving and wonderful constant companion. He can surely follow me inthe bathroom if he wishes. I love him.

Lemon tree · 01-24-2013, 06:03 PM

........I do pray you find the Yorkie you are looking for and the Yorkie that makes you happy. I wish you the best

Cinderella York · 02-18-2013, 07:14 AM

Yorkies very much like to be with their families. Like children they will do what they are allowed to do. I cannot imagine a yorkie that would not tell you when someone is approaching your home. The dogs you babysit will be missing their families and probably more clingy because of it.

lynzy420 · 02-18-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Hello!! Welcome to YT! I think Yorkies are the best breed out there- I don’t think you should judge a Yorkie on what you see in the Yorkies you babysit- sounds to me like they have not be trained properly or socialized, the only thing my Yorkies does out of those things you mentioned it follow me everywhere- Also Yorkies are very smart and can be trained to do anything-

If I had the chance to get another Yorkie I would- I am so thankful I have my little guy- he is the best dog!

Yorkies are time consuming and are more expensive to up keep- If you have the time, and financial ability to take care of one, then I would tell you to get one in a heartbeat!

Hrossen11 · 02-18-2013, 09:36 AM

I have a morkie and he likes to hang out with me or if I am busy, then he goes out the cat door to hang out with my large dogs. He has a mix of both dog personalities. Most of the time is is easy going, but he has his yorkie aggressive moments as well. Like he hates going to the groomers. We are taking him obedience class so we don't have one of those small dogs nobody likes. He socialize him oth around children taking him to my kids school and other dogs at dog park. He is my first little dog and I love having a snuggle dog that fits in my lap. My Aussie thinks he is a lap dog but 90lbs is a bit big for my lap. The key thing to remember is how you train and socialize them. I have not noticed much difference between my mixed yorke, and others pure yorkie except fur color and coat texture. He has the maltese fur texture.

01-24-2013, 07:49 AM	#1
doggirl YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6	potential new yorkie owner! Hi everyone! I've been wanting a yorkie for about 2 years (this would be my first dog that is all my responsibility). I love them! First, anyone know of a reputable yorkie breeder in Ontario, Canada (preferably near Toronto)? Also, is it unrealistic to think I'd be able to train certain qualities out of my yorkie? Based on the yorkies I babysit, these would be- excessive barking at the slightest sound or when anyone comes to the door, hostility and aggression towards other dogs and some people (I'm assuming this is the result of poor socialization...) and excessive clinginess (they follow me EVERYWHERE- even if I walk two steps and come back!) Thanks for the info!!

01-24-2013, 08:30 AM	#2
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	Hello!! Welcome to YT! I think Yorkies are the best breed out there- I don’t think you should judge a Yorkie on what you see in the Yorkies you babysit- sounds to me like they have not be trained properly or socialized, the only thing my Yorkies does out of those things you mentioned it follow me everywhere- Also Yorkies are very smart and can be trained to do anything- If I had the chance to get another Yorkie I would- I am so thankful I have my little guy- he is the best dog! Yorkies are time consuming and are more expensive to up keep- If you have the time, and financial ability to take care of one, then I would tell you to get one in a heartbeat! __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

01-24-2013, 08:43 AM	#3
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	Hello and welcome to YT. Check out YTCA for reputable breeders. Make sure you ask lots of questions Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

01-24-2013, 09:05 AM	#4
OwnedByJezebel YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,921	I don't have any advice on where to find your pup in Ontario, I'm sure others will be able to help with that, but I do want to say something about the temperament issue. My first two Yorkies were rehomes, I got both of them (several years apart) when they were about a year old. The first one wasn't keen on strangers (although he did not have any issues with us when we got him). He wouldn't attack people outright, he would ignore them, but if they tried to pet him, he would snap. He was also a bad resource guarder. If a stranger left him alone, they would never know he had these issues. I attribute this to him being essentially raised in a pack of wild Yorkies by a bad breeder. The second was rehomed to me by a show breeder that had decided that she wouldn't make the cut in the show world. She was great with people, but hated all other dogs (except our Maltese). Strange dogs were always something she could not abide. We just kept her away from strange dogs. When I got Jezebel, I picked her out of her litter. She was rough-housing with her litter mates, then she noticed me walk up and she ran over, wagging her tail and wiggling. Then she ran back to her litter mates and started playing again. After a minute or so, she noticed my husband, and ran over wagging and wiggling to meet him, then back to play. Her 2 sisters never acknowledged any of the humans, but they would play with her when she initiated play (she was the ring-leader). Her brother just stayed off to himself, never greeted any humans, and did not want to play. I often wonder how they turned out, personality-wise, based on how I saw them interact that day. To this day, Jezebel is still a social butterfly. When she goes to the dog park, she tries to get every dog to play. She stops whatever she is doing whenever someone new walks in the gate and runs to meet them, greeting them and their dog. She is quiet, and only barks when the front door bell rings. When she wants something, she has this low wookie-like groan. When the lawn crew is in the back yard, she sees them outside but totally ignores them. When another dog is not nice to her, she totally gives in and does not escalate the situation, but she doesn't give up, either. She waits a few seconds and tries to initiate greeting again and tries to pull them out. It's like she is saying "see, I'm not a threat, but I'm coming back because I still want to be friends!" There have been dogs at the dog park that she works with until they finally start to play. I've seen two different owners that were amazed at what she did, because they had never been able to get their dogs to play with other dogs at the park until they me Jez. I got another rehome when both Jezebel and the rehome were about a year old. He is great with all people but is a little she with other dogs, but warms up after a bit, no aggression. He does bark when the front door bell rings and when he is playing, but otherwise he is quiet. He doesn't have the spunky terrier attitude that Jezebel does. He wants to be in laps, she is independent and has no jealousy, so she couldn't care less when he hops up in one of our laps. They love each other and they are a good fit together. We only need ONE ring-leader! My current dogs love going places. The dog park, walks, even boarding and to the vet. I only board 2-3 times a year (maybe 10 days total), but when we get there they are so excited and they go with the handler, so excited to see her, and never even look back at me when they leave the lobby. One of the professional trainers there (who trains agility, conformation, and obedience for competition) gave Jez and Chuy temperament tests (required if they are going to be allowed to play with other dogs), and they passed with flying colors. They received no special training before the evaluation, it was just their natural personalities. I guess my point is not to base your opinion on the Yorkies that your have babysat. If you are able to see the dynamics of the litter when you pick out your pup, you just might be able to see what kind of temperament to expect as an adult. With Jezebel, I was able to observe her in the litter, with my rehome, a very sweet gentle boy, I did not and I was not the one that did his first year of training. They aren't all yappy, neurotic, and anti-social. Choose carefully and you will get the proper spunky terrier attitude that is balanced and friendly. I don't think mine are the way that they are because of training, I think they were largely born with these personalities and they were properly nurtured, because I did not try to change their personalities in any way. __________________ Life is merrier with a Yorkshire Terrier! Jezebel & Chuy ... RIP: Barkley Loosie & Sassy Last edited by OwnedByJezebel; 01-24-2013 at 09:09 AM.

01-24-2013, 09:22 AM	#6
AngelFae YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: MN, USA Posts: 780	My husband did NOT want a puppy, especially not a "Yappy little muskie-bait Yorkie!" but he has fallen in love because we haven't allowed Blazer to become that stereotype. I think that all dogs (and children) are what you make them. They can be trained not to be snotty, yappy, snappy, brats. Or they can be trained TO be that way! LOL! __________________ Amanda

01-24-2013, 09:20 AM	#5
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	Yorkies consider themselves a family member, and are attached to you. All they want to do is to spend their time with you, whether you both are out in the yard playing, or going for a walk, or cooking in the kitchen, or sweing in your craft room, or sitting watching TV or a movie. The just assume you want to be with them as much as they want to be with you....they do NOT do well, off to themselves, not included in the family. Some dogs will come for a pet or praise, then go off and play by themselves, or doze by off by themselves....dont get a Yorkie if you do not want that baby to be attached to you, doing and going with you from room to room, etc. That is what makes them so loyal, devoted, and endearing!!! You can not "train" that out of them...that is what God put them here to do, and they do it very well!!!!

01-24-2013, 09:33 AM	#7
doggirl YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6	Thanks for the responses! I know the dogs I babysit have some issues but I still absolutely LOVE them. They're the highlight of my day. It just gets tiring having to pick them up every time we walk past other dogs so they don't attack, and also they give me NO space. They even cry outside the bathroom door! This doesn't bother anyone who has one? What about yorkie mixes (yorkie poos, morkies, etc.)- are they a tad more OK with doing their own thing sometimes?

01-24-2013, 04:32 PM	#8
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	The dogs you watch could be more dependent on you because they are not with their human Mom. Peanut’s dependence for me doesn't bother me at all! I love the attention he gives me- Being a male he is very close to me- when I am laying down he is either sitting on my chest, or laying next to me- He follows me around, but not to the point where he goes in the bathroom with me, he has before- but it isn’t all the time. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

01-24-2013, 05:54 PM	#10
Lemon tree No Longer a Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Posts: 6	Yorkies are Angels on earth Hi I can certainly understand your desire for a Yorkie. Yorkies are by far one of the best breeds of dogs for companionship. I consider them much much more than just a dog. I have had several Yorkies who have passed away and each have a very special place in my heart and always will. With my Yorkie, as with any close friend or loved one you want to be with them as much as you possibly can because you love them very dearly...you cherish them. You love them unconditionally just as they love you. Vinny my Yorkie now is helping me each day just being at my side, following me, he is my buddy. I am facing some health issues he is my loving and wonderful constant companion. He can surely follow me inthe bathroom if he wishes. I love him.

01-24-2013, 06:03 PM	#11
Lemon tree No Longer a Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Posts: 6	........I do pray you find the Yorkie you are looking for and the Yorkie that makes you happy. I wish you the best

02-18-2013, 07:14 AM	#12
Cinderella York Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wainfleet Ontario Canada Posts: 12	Yorkies very much like to be with their families. Like children they will do what they are allowed to do. I cannot imagine a yorkie that would not tell you when someone is approaching your home. The dogs you babysit will be missing their families and probably more clingy because of it.

02-18-2013, 09:36 AM	#14
Hrossen11 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Central california Posts: 799	I have a morkie and he likes to hang out with me or if I am busy, then he goes out the cat door to hang out with my large dogs. He has a mix of both dog personalities. Most of the time is is easy going, but he has his yorkie aggressive moments as well. Like he hates going to the groomers. We are taking him obedience class so we don't have one of those small dogs nobody likes. He socialize him oth around children taking him to my kids school and other dogs at dog park. He is my first little dog and I love having a snuggle dog that fits in my lap. My Aussie thinks he is a lap dog but 90lbs is a bit big for my lap. The key thing to remember is how you train and socialize them. I have not noticed much difference between my mixed yorke, and others pure yorkie except fur color and coat texture. He has the maltese fur texture.