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jenstals 12-20-2005 08:12 AM

Awesome thread! I dont have tinies and didnt consider them, however, did used to think how cute they were. Not that they are not cute, but until coming to this website several months ago, I did not know the dangers involved in breeding them. Thank you for all the information you provided.

Yorkieluv 12-20-2005 08:23 AM

I go on that website every so often, and I remember when I first saw Minnie. Poor baby! Thanks for posting this. Those people that are breeding tinies have no heart for their furbabies...

red98vett 12-20-2005 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jenstals
Awesome thread! I dont have tinies and didnt consider them, however, did used to think how cute they were. Not that they are not cute, but until coming to this website several months ago, I did not know the dangers involved in breeding them. Thank you for all the information you provided.

Your post was really good to read :thumbup: :thumbup: - That information may get repeated alot here...but your post just proves that people DO read & learn when they join here.... so thanks for saying that :)

jenstals 12-20-2005 08:35 AM

I have learned soo much! This site is invaluable to me!

chloe'smom 12-20-2005 09:15 AM

OMG!!! I so needed to read this thread. After months of researching yorkies, I decided 6 months ago that I really want one. I have been referred to several breeders in my area and I have really witnessed some awful conditions. The first lady that I was put in contact with was very sweet over the phone and I thought that the puppy that she had would be perfect. Well I traveled about 200 miles to just go and take a look at her facility (atleast that is what I thought it was). When I got there it was more like a scene from a horror film. It was just awful. There were about 12 adult yorkies and Maltese dogs and about 15 puppies or so. There were urine spots and feces all over the floor and get this...This was all in the breeders living room! When she brought out the teeny tiny puppy I thought that he was about 2 weeks old but he was 3 months old and shivering as if he were freezing but this was over the summer! I was shocked because I'd heard so many good things about her but clearly she is just breeding for the money. Needless to say, I reported her to the humane society. But for weeks I wandered about that little puppy, he could fit right in the palm of my hand.

Now I am very happy to say that I have found a breeder a little closer to home who is absolutely wonderful. My Chloe is about 2.8lbs at 10 weeks and that is fantastic for me because I have a 6 year old daughter. We are going to pick her up this Saturday. I am soooo happy to have found yorkietalk it is so informative and I must say that lately this is my favorite past time;)

waistfull 12-20-2005 09:25 AM

Thanks Villette, great thread!! :) :)

MasonsMommy 12-20-2005 09:57 AM

Sad!
 
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Originally Posted by red98vett
ChristyE1971 posted the story of Mighty Mini Mouse, the tiny Diva Yorkie http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25819This was on a link to her page..... and ANYONE thinking they want a tiny tiny yorkie NEEDS TO READ THIS

and I wanted to post more on the dangers of Breeding tinies for the NEWER Members here...Long time members of Yorkietalk pretty much know that breeding Tinies is dangerous and a sad state of our world - wanting something so small & so expensive.....We see the cute little tiny yorkies... but don't think about all the dead ones when breeders try to achieve this small size.


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Mini came from one of those exclusive breeders - the ones who cater to people who are willing to pay top dollar for a tiny, cute puppy. And it is a good thing these shoppers are willing to spend thousands of dollars for their newest accessory. Because it is going to take thousands of dollars to give this tiny little bundle a chance to live.

The breeder won’t tell you that, of course. Three days after your new bundle of joy arrives, the breeder will tell you that your puppy’s death comes as a complete surprise and it must have been a fluke – or perhaps you did something wrong. What they won’t tell you is that lots of them die before they reach 12 months because their little bodies failed to fully develop.

If you are in the market for a teacup Yorkie, then what you are shopping for is a premature dog.

Yorkies are among the newest breeds of dogs and were originally bred to be about 15 pounds when full grown. We pocket-sized them down to a mere 5 to 7 pounds (the current AKC “breed standard”). Now, thanks to celebrities toting them around for the cameras, the demand is for even smaller dogs – the smaller the better. Except for one thing: they are NOT supposed to be that small. It is fine for a Yorkie to drink from a teacup, but they shouldn’t fit in a teacup.

In order to force a puppy that tiny, irresponsible breeders breed females that are too small to be having puppies in the first place and are therefore unable to have them naturally. Keep in mind, a dog, especially one kept in a cage in another building far from human inhabitants, cannot rush to the hospital when she goes into labor and needs an emergency caesarian.

To further increase the chance of tiny dogs, the breeder throws the female in with more than one male for more than one day in the hopes that she will have multiple pregnancies in one litter. The result is often more puppies in one litter than can be safely carried. The more puppies she can squeeze into that tiny body, the less room there is for the puppies to grow. – viola! tiny puppies!

The end result is a puppy who has perhaps a 50% chance at living more than a few weeks. Because your desire for a tiny dog was more important than having a healthy dog, that premature puppy’s organs and other body parts will not be fully developed.

Adorable little Mini battles Atlantoxaial Instability and Chiari Malformation and a liver shunt and Hydrocephalus. What do all these big words mean? It means Mini’s body did not develop fully. This beautiful little girl is dying. Her legs do not work. Her liver does not work properly. Each day it gets more difficult for her to lift her head. Mini knows it and she’s not happy about it. She wants to run and play, but her body doesn’t cooperate. Because the breeder could not sell her, she gave her to PMR. PMR is doing everything possible to give this little girl a chance to grow up healthy.

The saddest part of this story is that, to the breeder, Mini is just overhead – the cost of doing business. Beautiful little puppies die all the time in her business and Mini is just one more. Because she does not care about the health of the dogs, she will breed another Mini and another and another and another and another…

As long as people are willing to buy the ones she can sell before they die, she will keep doing what she is doing. And beautiful little lives will be wasted because of greed and the reckless pursuit of fashion.

Mini has a chance. Thanks to PuppyMillRescue and the foster moms and others who care enough to skip lunches and send money they cannot really spare to pay for her multiple surgeries. To us, Mini is more than the cost of doing business. She is a beautiful little puppy – one who feels fear and frustration and pain and sadness and determination and, we hope, will one day know joy and good health. We watch and we wait and we pray and we cry. Maybe Mini will make it to see her first birthday. We hope so. We try not to think of all the others just like her who never make it this far.

So, while you shop for your tiny Yorkie pup, please keep Mini in mind. If you want a companion who will love you no matter what, then adopt a rescue. There are millions of wonderful, beautiful pups just waiting for a good home.

But if what you really want is an accessory, buy a bracelet or a new purse or a pair of shoes. Don’t order a tiny puppy the size of a gerbil who won’t live to see her first birthday. :(

DO You STILL WANT A TINY ?
:(

Sadly enough I was one of those people who had to have a tiny and paid TOP dollar to have one! I purchased her (Ashbey) Jan 2005 and took her home at 8wks old she never ate in the 24hrs I had her and she was very weak...I took her back to the breeder who blamed me for her illness...Ashbey died 3days later! Please, dont be fooled, these puppies need medical care and are special needs...Im so glad Im educated about this breed now and the people who arent breeding for the love of the breed but only for the $$:(
PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!

Twinkie_love 12-20-2005 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by baili's mom
Great thread! Thank you for this important info especially this time of year
when so many people are making the decison to get a puppy for Christmas!
Too many people look at a puppy as an extension of there property not as
a family member!
:)

Nicely stated!!!I totally agree

LvLaila 12-20-2005 10:16 AM

This is a truly sad story of how society is changing, and how cruel people can be to animals. Just out of curiosity... what exactly is a 'tiny' ? Is that a 1-2 pound dog?

MasonsMommy 12-20-2005 10:45 AM

More info
 
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Originally Posted by MasonsMommy
Sadly enough I was one of those people who had to have a tiny and paid TOP dollar to have one! I purchased her (Ashbey) Jan 2005 and took her home at 8wks old she never ate in the 24hrs I had her and she was very weak...I took her back to the breeder who blamed me for her illness...Ashbey died 3days later! Please, dont be fooled, these puppies need medical care and are special needs...Im so glad Im educated about this breed now and the people who arent breeding for the love of the breed but only for the $$:(
PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!


When I decided to purchase my next yorkie after the horrible time I had with Ashbey ...I was so scared I asked for the Largest puppy!!! I am very please with the breeder that I got Mason from and with Mason. He has had no issues since I adopted him. He hasnt even had fleas!!!!!!!!!!

red98vett 12-23-2005 12:43 PM

Bumping this up

We have a bunch of people lately asking about tinies...if they aren\'t wanting one - they\'re breeding one....

I just want to make sure people read and do their homework before making such big decisions :(

hunniebunnie 12-25-2005 05:04 AM

i was just browsing the local paper and saw an ad for an out of state yorkie breeder\'s website. the breeder specializes in "teacups" and the dams on the website are all under 4lbs. but the really disgusting part, is the smallest soon-to-be-mother... the little thing is only 32 oz!!!!!!! i\'m just reeling in disgust.

red98vett 12-25-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie
i was just browsing the local paper and saw an ad for an out of state yorkie breeder\'s website. the breeder specializes in "teacups" and the dams on the website are all under 4lbs. but the really disgusting part, is the smallest soon-to-be-mother... the little thing is only 32 oz!!!!!!! i\'m just reeling in disgust.

OmG !!!! THAT IS TRULY AWFUL !! My stomach just went in swirls reading that - man people are truly sick and GREEDY AS SIN ! I would love to know where that *^%^* is located - I almost think the ASPCA should be notified about that one - I wonder if they would step in ?

MasonsMommy ...your post broke my heart and I\'m so so sorry for your loss.....If people didn\'t breed like that....then people like you wouldn\'t go thru such awful heartbreak :( - big hugs to you - that was sooo sad to read

thank you for sharing it with everyone - if you can help ONE person see things differently - than you\'ve done a great service to all the tiny moms out there....

troubletb 12-25-2005 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie
i was just browsing the local paper and saw an ad for an out of state yorkie breeder\'s website. the breeder specializes in "teacups" and the dams on the website are all under 4lbs. but the really disgusting part, is the smallest soon-to-be-mother... the little thing is only 32 oz!!!!!!! i\'m just reeling in disgust.

Does he have a website or email?? I would love to email him/her and let them know how we feel!!! :confused:

chachi 12-25-2005 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie
i was just browsing the local paper and saw an ad for an out of state yorkie breeder\'s website. the breeder specializes in "teacups" and the dams on the website are all under 4lbs. but the really disgusting part, is the smallest soon-to-be-mother... the little thing is only 32 oz!!!!!!! i\'m just reeling in disgust.

OmG I just read this! This is terrible! How could anyone breed a baby that small.


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