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We're flying from Korea to Japan, and Japan to Hawaii with our next army duty station. Because we're flying on orders (my husbands self and my 5 month old) we are not allowed to take our 2 pups on as a carry on. No exceptions right now I have already talked o several people and they Have to fly cargo. We will have a 5 hour lay over on Japan about a 2 hour flight to Japan and 8 hours to Hawaii. Any advice for the pups! There about 6lbs one and 11 lbs the other. Thank you!

Even though it would be a huge expense, do you have a friend that could fly commercial and take them to you? I have never flown with my furbaby, but I cannot imagine letting him fly cargo unless they let me fly in the cargo hold, too.

We would have to have two friends and then were talking $4000-6000 in plane tickets for them... While I wish we could there is no way we have that kind of money just to spend. The LAST thing I want to do is have them fly cargo we are just not given a choice. So many families just sell there dogs here in Korea and those dogs end up re homed every few years because of these reasons but to us our puppies are our family. I'm so stressed about them flying cargo and wish I could do something but unfortunately we don't have options if we want to bring our pups :-(

are you flying commercial or on a military transport. if commerical what airline? when do you have to leave

Would the military carrier allow you to put a webcam in their crate that you could monitor from your seat? Could you do the webcam without them knowing? If I had to fly Huey cargo with no other option, if I could at last watch him and know he was warm, watered, fed and breathing, I would feel much better about it.

We are flying commercial on orders, through united. We talked to the military on our end, I talked to pet help and cargo. Cargo is even had a pre-recording that says active duty military and family have to have pets on Cargo only. We leave the end of February but no dates are set dates

I am wondering if any dog couriers would donate their time to help you out?

What is a dog courier? We just don't have any money to be able to give or pay:-( we have been here in Korea 4 years and an army move with the military we will be buying all new furniture we need vehicles and all of that. We will also be traveling to two different islands the dogs with us because they will send us too the big island for 4 days the Oahu. The web cam is an interesting idea but we won't have access to the Internet while in the air.

What about a bluetooth enabled camera that you wouldn't need internet for? They could at least agree to seat you close enough for an adequate signal.
I like the idea of a dog courier, too. Would be nice if someone reading this could donate services...

I will have to look into that. We are also going to be traveling with my little one who will be 6.5 months old. I'm just hoping someone else has done it and its okay!! I know lots of families have dogs here and do it but my pups are very small I worry.

Wow, this is awful that the airlines are doing this to your husband and you, a military family...really irks me....

Pets and Air Travel : The Humane Society of the United States

at the end of this article is a link to information you may find helpful, I tried to link it but for some reason It doesn't come up right when I try to. anyway...try not to worry, take every precaution, you are forced to do what you have to do....let us know how it goes, I will be thinking of you all...

Do you have anxiety or any other emotional type disorders?

After reading lynzy's link, that's what I was thinking. If these were service dogs, I wonder if you'd have a problem? Service Dog ID Tags - Custom Service Dog Badges

By the way lynzy's link also had a page for what to do if you have to fly cargo, they did have some great tips. Travelling Tips for Pets on Planes, Trains, or Ships : The Humane Society of the United States

I thought of that but would it work with two dogs, plus she has the situation of it having to in some ways go though the military. I travel a lot with my dog and know lots of the ins and out so for the heck of it I talked to United Airlines, if the dogs go as cargo they will allow you to check on them and take them out of the cage during the long lay over.
If you were a standard passenger you could by a pass for your dog. If I was you prior to the flight I would just call the airlines directly and see if you could do that, just give them your reservation number and see. I feel for what you must be going through because I know I would be besides myself, if you are forced to go the cargo route you should get tranq. for the dogs but be sure to try them out at home during the day well in advance of you travel date. I read that Hawaii quarantines dogs, will that be the case for you.

OMG I really feel for you on this! Isn't it freezing in Korea and Japan in Feb? that long in the cargo hold, they could die! This is terrible :( I can't believe how our military people are treated for all that the do! My sister is married to a soldier and the stories she tells me! :(

In 2 days and 2 hours I have TWO EMS animals that due to law can fly with me in my lap on the plane free of charge.

You might want to check into some laws about the state of Hawaii if you haven't already done so. They have a Quarantine Law. It's because of rabies. Hawaii is the only state in the US to be rabies free. I don't really know that much about it but I have heard stories that dogs can be put and quarantine up to 4months and it can be very expensive.

I was going to add to that, it says on the web site 3 months even for service dogs, in some cases they can get it down to 30. days

And it is such a shame that when our military transports families all over the freaking place they don't want to help them with their pets. I wonder how Michele O. would like it if her dog Bo was treated this way. Chances are they probably don't even realize this. You know what would be cool is if we could start a campaign on this topic, after all one of the causes of the first and second lady is for better treatment of the military. Instead of all of us sitting on the keyboard going round and round on hot button issues on YT what if we spent some of that time trying to make a difference for family pets of those in the military. Anyone up for starting a face book page on the topic.

I just found this:
HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) – While President Barack Obama and his family have been coming to Hawaii for vacation almost every year, it will be the first island visit for “First Dog” Bo. If he passes a veterinary exam when he lands, he’ll be allowed to follow the Obama ohana to Kailua immediately.
He can do so under the state’s “Five-Day-Or-Less” quarantine program, which has been on the books since 2003. Bo met the requirements, but the process began months in advance.
“It would take at least four months to qualify for the Five-Day-Or-Less quarantine, which has a provision for direct release at the airport if the owners do things as required,” said state Agriculture Department spokeswoman Janelle Saneishi.
For starters, there’s a $165 fee per pet. The dog or cat also has to have had at least two rabies shots in its lifetime, with the most recent one at least 90 days before it travels to Hawaii. It also has to have a microchip for identification, and have a blood test for rabies. Then there’s a 120-day wait after the animal passes the blood test before it can enter the state. There’s also paperwork to certify that all the requirements have been met

Oh that's so cool, just don't tell "The Donald" about this, I'm sure he'll throw a fit!

too funny, but dollars to donuts he did not fly cargo and in a crate for the duration of the flight since he no doubt went on Air Force One. They most likely did not pay for his seat but us taxpayers did. Not that I would begrudge Bo a chance to fly safe and in style but as our president he is commander in chief therefore part of the military.

Lol, Romney would have probably strapped him to the top of Air Force one! :D All you Republicans, I'm just kidding!

:thumbup::thumbup:I like this idea, maybe it will help!:thumbup::thumbup:

It just seems like an awful long time for the dogs to go without food and water. I know they recommend that animals going in cargo not eat for a few hours before the flight because of possible travel sickness and having to potty while they are in the carrier. It just seems inhumane to do that to such little dogs, or any pet for that matter. They won't even let you pay the extra it would cost to fly with your pet in the cabin?

I don't have anything like that

We already have gone through the rabies series to make sure the dogs are ready. That's one thing the army does help with is making sure your animals are ready health wise. We started planning before we even got our official orders because my parents moved to Hawaii awhile ago and have two cats an went through the same. Like you mentioned they have to get 3 rabies vaccines and the last has to be 4 months before you enter the state

They won't let us pay the extra. I'm not sure if its because we are traveling on orders he has to appear more work ready or what the reasoning behind it is. We ask and we just don't get reasoning explained just it is what it is. Maybe it's because traveling on orders the military is responsible for our whole ticket price so they don't allow us to do add ons even of pocket.

Thanks for giving the info about being able to check on them!! That eases my mind a little and being able to take them out on the layover!! And good thinking withthe tranq I will ask the vet about that! :)

Ours will not be quarantined because we got them ready for the travel already!! Thank goodness at least we were on top of that!

Unfortunately, no pets are allowed in cabin to Hawaii even if not military. Alaska Airlines may be an exception...which won't apply to you.:(

While I understand where you are coming from and almost losing your babies life (so sorry!) only I can fly commercial. Which means I could take one pup, but I have a baby that is exclusively breastfed and I can't see me alone taking the baby and the puppy, it would be to much. Our plan was I would be carrying our girl and my husband would be in charge of pets.

The suggestion to take a commercial flight is NOT An option for us. That is out of our control. We can't tell the army for the sake of our pets.... It doesn't work that way!! I really am trying to do what's best and that's why I specifically asked if people had info on flying cargo so I could have them prepared. I really am sorry if this makes me seem like a bad pet owner but we sign have a choice!

My husband is more familiar with Hawaiian air policy and airport policy he worked for Hawaiian air in Hawaii before the military. We know the quarantine and airport procedure