Please suggest... Merry Chistmas to all of you. I have been looking for adding another pup and the search is still going on ..:rolleyes: I have finalized one breeder, I do not have their website, but this is their ad on kijiji, http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-pets-dogs-puppies-for-sale-F1-Yorkshire-Terrier-puppies-Yorkie-W0QQAdIdZ439166091 I talked to the lady and she was more than happy to welcome me to view the pups. There are 2 male pups available, one is purebred Yorkie and other has a Biewer mom and Yorkie dad. They are giving written health guarantee for 1 year. I had an impression that the lady whom I spoke to loves her Yorkies. I will be visiting them tomorrow and then I would try to negotiate. Please suggest which one should I buy - PB Yorkie or the Biewer Yorkie!! :p:D |
The Yorkies which I have mentioned above are for $1000. There is another ad on kijiji for Biewer Yorkies. **New** 5 GEN Teacups Biewer Yorkshire Terrier - Vancouver Dogs & Puppies For Sale - Kijiji Vancouver Canada. I spoke to them and they are asking $900. They are giving a health guarantee for life threatening congenital diseases. I asked them about MVD/Liver shunt and they said that if any congenital diseases are found, they would replace the pup. But replacing the pup would be more easier for them than me. Also, looking at the photos posted in the ad, I feel they look like shih-tzu. Plus the ad says, they are teacups. I love the coloring of Biewers. But I dont want to take a decision and end up with an unhealthy pup. |
The ad does not look good to me. Why mixing Biewers and Yorkies? Teacups? Could be fine but there are red flags. Perhaps Biewer breeders will be better able to comment. |
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I couldn't give an honest opinion with just this ad. Ask her if she has a website, a copy of the health guarantee....pm her name if she doesn't have a site. Then I for one, could get a better answer. The only thing I see is these pics are very staged. You will notice that many of our breeders post pics and they are in a natural setting, I can't explain exactly what I mean but to me I see pics like these from greeders all the time. |
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This is a greeder for sure. This ad is full of greeder sales tactics and I wouldn't even entertain the thought of purchasing a pup from someone who uses TeaCup....perhaps the most despised word on YT? anyway, this ad is full of red flags.... |
Greedier? I agree, looks like one. Re reading the ad, they specialize in teacups. Uh oh. Also I am sure Biewer breeders would not agree that Biewers are just black and white Yorkies? |
Thanks.. Thanks for your replies. My thought is to visit the lady who has posted the below ad F1 Yorkshire Terrier puppies (Yorkie) - Delta/Surrey/Langley Dogs & Puppies For Sale - Kijiji Delta/Surrey/Langley Canada. I would like to see the pups and then decide. I agree that pups are being setup to take photos. I would read the written health guarantee and would post it here. I will aslo try to get few pics of the pups. But my question is, whether I should go for the Biewer-Yorkie pup or the purebred Yorkie. Does breeding a female Biewer and male Yorkie has any issues? I live in BC, Canada and could not find any pups available at this time. There is another Yorkie for re-homing from a "Registered Breeder". The story of the pup is that, he was sold to an elderly lady in summer but she could not take care of the pup. And the breeder is helping her to re-home the pup. I called the breeder and asked for health guarantee. She denied it.:mad: Then I asked if the pup has some congenital disease which will be discovered later on like MVD. Her reply shocked me. This is her reply as quoted, "What is MVD? I have not even heard of it" I promptly replied answering her question. And she said, "Aw. I dont even know if Yorkies can even get this by their parents. I have done health check up of both parents and they are healthy". This made me feel that she is breeding for money. So, I just left the thought of buying from her. However, on the contrary the lady with 2 male pups (Biwerer-Yorkie and PB Yorkie) looked very knowledgeable. I spoke to her husband first and he said, he doesn't know much about Yorkies and is handing over the phone to his wife who loves Yorkies. Now, this can also be a quoted statement, but the truth can only be found out when I visit them. |
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Pup Please be careful. Seeing the dogs does not always prove much. She could import them from a mill or anything. Hope some real breeders here will help with your decision making, and suggest the right things to look for if you do visit. |
I agree. The first one is mixing Biewer with yorkie. Any breeder that is a reputable breeder would not mix the two. Biewer breeders only breed Biewer to Biewer. The second one is definilty a greeder. Anyone that uses the word teacup and also you really could not see the pups. Not good. I would keep looking. Do you want a Biewer or a yorkie? |
Question, is the lady you talked to named Merta, by any chance? |
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B or Y? Verbena. That is what I understood. I thought that Biewer breeders were proud of the heritage and B lines. In this ad I could not understand what it was describing, a Yorkie Biewer mix or what? Also to be proud to breed teacups is not best. Did not sound like an expert breeder. |
Please see if she has a website and copy of health guarantee, while your waiting for that info. keep searching....:D Have you checked YT for any breeders? Is it really not plausible to travel for a Yorkie? I just want to see you get a great Pup... |
Merat Sounds very mysterious. LOL! What's with Merta? I understand if you can't say. ;-) Again my iPad changed Merta into Merat??? Hope it does not do it again! |
I have checked YT, but could not find any pups which would fit in my budget. I am looking at a $1000 range and cannot go beyond this. Also, I would need to ensure that I get enough supplies (food, toys, treats ... the list goes on !! :D) for the pup. Hopefully, I would have some information regarding the pups by tomorrow and would share the same. I can travel for "the" yorkie, but again, I could not find any nearby.. :( |
It is so hard looking for the right pup. I feel for you. Looking forward for the info and hope it leads to the pup you are looking for. Are you interested in both ads or just the Yorkie one? |
Finally some good news ..!! I called up Carolyn (of Welcome) since her website listed that she has an adult for adoption. However, he was already adopted. But she gave me reference to below Biewer breeder, Donda Biewers | Enumclaw, WA 98022 Carolyn said that she had a litter of biewers 2 weeks back and may be I will be able to get one male pup. And she also said that both sire and dam are from her. I just called her up but she said that all her pups are already booked. However, she may have a male. One lady has spoken her about the male pup, but she has not confirmed. If possible, I would go there and confirm. She asked $200 deposit and I can drive there over the weekend and pay her. This would not be an issue. I have sent her my details, and I am waiting for the pics. Praying to god that the lady does not confirm on this and I get this lil' baby..:) |
Praying that you can get the pup you want and sorry the search is so hard. However please be sure you check everything out before falling for the pup and do not feel rushed into a decision. Good luck! |
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Also, if you go to her website you will find that both sire and dam are from Carolyn itself. Below is the website with all the relevant infromation, Sire-and-Dam |
Biewers I looked at the web site and it does look good and the breeders seem to be experts. I did not see about health guarantee, but I am sure if they are as good as they look they will have that. You must be excited. Good luck. |
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I should still get a confirmation from her. I will call her up tomorrow and say that I am ready and be willing to travel to her place and pay the deposit. If everything goes fine, I will visit pups again when they are 8 weeks of age. |
I hope things work out for you, and I also hope you find your pup. I don't know anything about this breeder, but I think Carolyn Arnold has beautiful pups. I remember seeing photos of Lizzy when she was a pup. IMO, Tilly is too small to be safely bred, but it looks like this breeder has many years of experience breeding. I don't have a Biewer, but I love what I've read about them when they are properly bred. |
Pup Again, praying that you get the pup! They are lovely dogs. Wonderful that she covers congenital defects. Bet you can't wait to get to see them. Let us know when the baby is yours. |
I have a biewer...and my nightmare with the groomer the other day asked me about breeding my pup, but to a AKC yorkie. I dont know why, if it was the offer of studding out my dog, or the fact that she wanted to mix him with something else...but it really made me mad. If she was really into her dogs, I dont think she would mix them. There is pride in owning a biewer, and mixing them with something else just seems like creating another "designer" breed. |
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Happy's new pup I think the poster is getting a pure Biewer from what looks like a good breeder. Different from the original ones she mentioned. |
Personally, I dont really differentiate between a Biewer or a Yorkie. I already have a Yorkie and now, I am looking for an addition. One is just not enough :D I am into this "hunt" since past 2 months and now, it just got a bit frustrating. So, luckily I might get one Biewer from dondaybiewers.com. But its yet to be confirmed. I will keep you posted. Thanks a lot for your input guys, YOU REALLY ROCK :thumbup: |
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Donda Biewers is a good example of a responsible and even expert breeder. Contacting someone like that would be a big help to you in your search. A good breeder often has a waiting list for their pups and they are well worth the wait. If they don't have puppies available they may be able to point you in the right direction in finding someone they know that has pups. I would not hesitate to get on a good breeders waiting list. I would much rather wait a few months than spend years of time, money and suffering with a genetically defective puppy. Sure you would still love the pup but you don't want to see your dog suffer with a genetic defect. Buying a Yorkie these days is like walking a mine field. There are so many people out there breeding that have no idea about what it takes to breed healthy happy purebreds. You do not want a health guarantee that means you have to return your much loved pup if there is something found to be wrong with it. |
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