Cesar Millan update
 

I know some of us bashed Cesar for the "Holly video" but I just read that he attempted suicide after losing Daddy and his wife filing for divorce. I'm always sad when anyone finds themselves so hopeless that they try to take their life. On Nat Geo on the 25th there will be a Cesar Millan story and I will watch it. He tells how he recovered from this and did not rely on antidepressants to improve his life.
We may not agree on his method of rehabilitating dogs for he is doing what he believes is right. I wish him the best.

Oh, that is so sad to hear. Hopefully he got some help and is looking at the world a little differently now. Even when you disagree with a person's methods of doing things, no one wishes them such despair and pain, especially when they are a father of young children.

I do hope and pray he'll change some of his methods for dealed with troubled dogs in the future.

Oh how sad, sometimes I think in this country we build some people up too much, and then we love to tear them down if we find out they have flaws. I still think Cesar has lots of good advice, but it seems like many only want to see the bad now. Here’s a good video of Cesar giving advice to Julie Brown and her Yorkie, and it has an important message how parents can make their dogs aggressive toward their children. Anyway, I wish him well.



Dog whisperer S03E14 Yorkshire Terrier - YouTube

How sad.

It's shocking and sad to learn that someone who appeared so upbeat and in control reached such a low. Glad to hear he is doing better now.

he is planning on proposing to his new girlfriend so i assume hes in a much better place...but it proves no matter how good things are in ones life it can change in the drop of a dime.

I like a lot of the way he teaches many things, especially explaining the nature of how dogs learn to people, but not how he puts dogs on defense, bullies them - not that part. And I hate to think of the owners continuing the poking at their dogs in their flanks, alpha-rolling and bullying also after he's long gone as they've been taught. I wonder how many of those owners doing that get bitten by overstressed dogs? But his desensitization, redirection techniques and much of his dog psychology and many other things are well done. I like the way he works with dogs traumatized by some event(s). Glad to hear he's found someone else to love, is going to marry again. He seems like the type of man who really has to have a wife.

Very very sad. I do not agree with his methods in any way shape or form but still very very sad. I guess everyone, even the strong ones, reach a breaking point.

I used to love Cesar, but now I watch his show wincing at the stuff he does to dogs.

Either way, I feel for him. I'll tune in to watch the special.

Very sad.

I don't pity him though, if you're so selfish you would try to take your own life when you have dependant children despite numerous chances to get help, well I hope mom gets full custody until he's stable...also read he is planning a new book on the issue...that's so fast seems unbeleivable!

I feel bad he's going through a hard time and honestly anyone with any celeb status gets ecerything so amplified but considering his choices I lack pity other than he needs to get perspective and a reality check.

Now I know its trash mag gossip but his exwife alledged several types of abuse and describing his behavior patterns sounds like he has some maybe bipolar issues to seek help for.

I feel bad that he was in such a dark place that he felt that it was the only way. I wish him well in his future.

The video was good. There was only thing I didn't like was that he was using a collar not a harness. And he was pulling on it. I was a little worried about the dog.

I find it espe ially ironic he never will really adress being sued for being an alledged alcoholic, or for abusing dogs behind the scenes.

Guess his ex is refiling for custody modifion now

Yes, he definitely seems not totally fond of women. Like their 'beneath' him. I'm almost certain that was a big reason his wife left him.

After the way I've seen him treat some dogs, I wouldn't be surprised if his anger got the best of him at times.

That Yorkie video was one of his tamest, but I still saw quite a few things I did not like.

(this coming from a previous Cesar lover).

Part of their divorce settlement was a nondisclosure for her...ironic she alledged affairs, alcoholism, dog obcession, violent mood swings, abuse towards everyone especially her...then gets half a million to never speak of it again...

I know, I noticed that too, but I think that was the owner's collar not Cesar's. Julie Brown needs to join YT!

I think she needs to also. He should have said a collar is not the right thing. Use a harness

Lol, he doesn't know everything!

That's it? only half a million? that can't be right.

I think they were going to cancel his show. They took him off one of the Nat GEO stations and put him on Nat GEO Wild instead. I don't know if that meant a pay decrease or not.

I have seen him help dogs that no one else could fix. That Holly situation was really bad though. I had never seen him be that aggressive with a dog. I felt so bad for that poor dog. I haven't really followed the show in a few years so maybe he started to be more aggressive during that time frame.

His kids are still kind of young. I hope they don't get shut out of his life as happens in many divorces.

It was the producer at National Geographic that sued him for hitting and kicking his dog Cesar offered to train (allegedly) and claimed Cesar was always drunk.

I'd read that his show was cancelled.

Very sad. He may not have needed antidepressants but many people do because of a chemical imbalance so its not a terrible thing to be on anti depressants.

:eek: Maybe he used to alpha-roll her, and poke her in the flank too? :eek: Sally + Harry x

I think he took a whole bottle of antidepressants to try and end his life. Don’t' know if they were his, but sometimes antidepressants can bring about suicidal thoughts that's why they should be taken in conjunction with seeing a therapist, but many people just get them from their regular doctor. I agree with you though, no one should feel like they are weak because they need them.

:lol tears I needed that laugh this afternoon to funny

Oh I am so with you I think your regular family doctor should not be the one prescribing it I think Psychiatrist and therapist are both important.

im out the loop here what video? i remember about daddy passing but none of the other stuff im really going to have to watch the show on the 25th

What did he do that ppl didn't agree with? I hadn't heard. I didn't know ppl had a problem with him. Please share.

How sad and shocking to hear this is happening to him. I'm glad he's pulling through!!

Wow I must be in a cave under a rock. I want to know. I'll be doing some research.

Does anyone have a link to the Holly video?
He was very abusive to that dog. I don't know how many other times he did that to a dog but it was disgraceful. I had seen him working with damaged dogs and doing quite well but apparently when he works with aggressive dogs he goes off.

Cesar had no formal education and learned to rehabilitate dogs through watching pack behavior and how the alpha dog would get the aggressive dog to behave. Some people think there is no such thing as pack behavior or the alpha dog. He said he learned many things through his dog Daddy and Daddy could rehabilitate a dog much faster than he could. His theory was a true pack leader is calm and assertive, not aggressive, or passive. He became a little too popular for his own good, and I think this created a backlash for people to pick apart his methods. The alpha roll was controversial, and even though he said it shouldn’t be done without a trainer, people were doing it, and it can have mixed results and even turn a dog more aggressive. Many of Cesar’s dogs were one step away from being put down, they had tried everything, and Cesar was the last resort. He helped many of these dogs, but some of these techniques were more about television, than what the average pet owner should be doing with their dogs. Some of the methods could make a dog react in an aggressive way and so they were dangerous for the layman to do. Trainers who had formal education thought there were better ways to train and many I’m sure were upset that he appealed to so many. Most people looking for a trainer wanted a person who used Cesar’s method, not a traditional behaviorist. There was a backlash and he became more known for his controversial techniques rather than all the good techniques, and many people HATED him with a capital H. When I came to YT everyone loved him and I decided to watch his show, I thought I would dislike him, because my major was learning theory or behaviorism, but I really liked him. I think what he says about walking a dog is so important, I loved what he said about never, ever hitting a dog, I really don’t think people realize how much that still happens. I totally believe in his idea of presenting a calm assertive front by the way you act and walk, I think this really has a calming influence on animals, and even humans. I'm really unhappy that so many people had to vilify him. He's not a god, and he's not the devil. Anyway, that's my perspective on the whole thing.

I agree with you to some extent. I think a lot of traditional trainers were jealous of his success. The first two seasons I saw him do some great things with dogs. The thing is that most of the problems were caused by the owners and not the dog it's self.
I also agree that exercise for dogs is very important. Most people will go out and buy a Lab or a Boxer and then expect it to be happy in the house most of the time or chained in a backyard. The animals are born to run and people treat them like little lap dogs. I shouldn't refer to lap dogs because my little fireball also needs tons of exercise to keep her a happy member of the family that is not destructive or just plain crazy.
The people I saw on Cesar's show were clueless about how to relate to a dog and it's needs.
I was shocked to see the Holly video. I had never seen him treat a dog that way. I truly feel positive reinforcement is the best way to train a dog and that being aggressive is only going to promote more aggression. Since I stopped watching the show after the first couple of years I can't say how often he did that type of thing with other animals. I am surprised they would show that clip on TV. Maybe he did get carried away with his own success and started pushing the envelope for ratings. I just felt so bad for Holly. Her owners were no help at all......as usual.