Pierced Yorkie ears?!?!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by GuinnessStout

People think I am crazy when I say Guinness LOVES cloths, PJ's, socks and shoes or slippers until they come to my house... he does not care who you are or what you are trying to do at that moment but if he thinks it is bedtime he is forcing you to put his PJ's on him!! My husband took off his PJ's one morning to potty and we were rushing to go out for the day with friends so he went got a shirt placed it in my friend's lap as she sit on the couch and did his yorkie talk and mumbling, so of course she yelled out to me to come in the room and figure out what was wrong with my dog lol I told her he is asking you to please put on his shirt he just handed you.

I find the whole piercing thing odd myself BUT then again I also have a dog with a dyed mohawk that not everybody might feel as if it is "right"... as long as it is not harming the dog and you are making sure to take proper care of it such as you do with your child's ears who am I to say what you do or do not do... to each their own.

That is me too I dont think its my right to judge but that is me. I have seen the mohawks and think they are cute. I have also seen where people have dyed their dog with kool aide for halloween or some occasion and dont think anythings wrong with that either

[GuinnessStout]

Oh and before it is even said... Guinness knows where all his stuff is at... hair dye, hair wax, brush, comb, clothes... he will bring you stuff and will whine cry or whatever the case might be till you do whatever it is he brought you.. My dog is NONSTOP bouncing off the wall's hyper even in his sleep but if he sees his blue hair dye he will lay completely still for you to apply it and will not move until you say all done... now do I know for a fact he actually likes it?? No I do not.. but does it hurt or harm him in anyway?? NO In fact right now it is a pain in the rear for me because I really do not want a blue mohawk in my holiday pictures lol

[Oddsock]

I'll never think this is okay.



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[chachi]

Originally Posted by Oddsock

I'll never think this is okay.



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Those are extreme pictures. I dont think the average person that pierces their dogs ears does that

[Oddsock]

Originally Posted by chachi

Those are extreme pictures. I dont think the average person that pierces their dogs ears does that

Totally agree with you on that, but the average person, doesn't piece their dog at all. Thankfully it's still unusual and in some areas illegal.

[GuinnessStout]

Being the type of person I am I like to argue at times just for the mere fun of it... So with that being said

I know in England you can not dock tails but here in the US it is the norm.. Is it painful well yea I beat it is and does it serve a propose? We remove their tumbs or should i say dewclaws... has it been proven there is a need for this?? no not really. Nope just looks cute same as ears on a pit being cut. Dogs are tattooed if fixed and sometimes as making for ID.. Microchips still have not been proved if they cause cancer or not in animals and I know my body has decided to reject the pins and screws in my knees after 5 years causing pain so how do we know those chips do not do the same?? In my city is it againt the law to dye an animal UNLESSi can show proof that it is a special dye made for dogs that is pet friendly. I am pretty sure sticking a hot branding iron to a cows butt does not feel the greatest but they do that!



So with all that being said if you have a tail docked dewclaw removed puppy that is well taken care what right do you have to tell a ears pierced puppy owner that spoils and takes care of their pet they have no right to do that???

[HalsMama86]

hahaaa i looked up booty bling..wow! and pierced ears is just ridiculous...I guess you can brand them but i think a collar and chip works fine for me lol

gotta admit though, Hal once got a mohawk cut and i did put gel in it to keep it up! hehe didn't last long.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Anyone that would pierce a grown, non-infant dog who has full sensation and a well-developed neurological system that can FEEL all that piercing to the hilt at the time it happens while being held down and then have to deal with the healing and changing of all those studs is plainly sadistic. A 3 day-old neonate puppy who's just had a tail dock/dews removed has only limited sensation in his still rudimentary nervous system, and he routinely settles to sleep within 3 minutes of the dock/dews procedures ending and is well-healed by the time his nervous system has matured enough to feel much sensation at all. To the contrary, I imagine that bull terrier felt every single piercing and doubt he settled to sleep anywhere near a 3 minute window after the piercings were done! I'll bet that poor guy hurt for days and was tender, sore for weeks, as he likely wasn't pierced as a days-old infant with little sensory development. And I wonder if being a fully developed dog when pierced, anybody considered how he felt as every hole was being made, if the person "working" on him considered how darn scared he must have been during the whole procedure as people or strong ties restrained his struggling body. And I'm sure that poor, hapless dog was fairly well traumatized by the time all the piercings were done and those studs were one-by-one inserted into freshly pierced, living skin!!!

I wonder if anyone bothered to give him a post-piercing pain shot or pill and some pain meds while he was healing and feeling every sore, open area! I would be willing to bet money he had no such relief at all.

What a horrible story I'll bet that poor dog has to tell if he could but talk about what all was done to him from the time they started walking toward him and he knew the fear inside that something bad was about to happen to him, then held him down, at times with great force, did their grisly, painful work for who knows how long and finally let him go! Then, no doubt, later that person was expecting kisses from his dog! The whole thing gives me nightmares!

[GuinnessStout]

Now please keep in mind I said I would NEVER do that to Guinness and I myself actually am one of those nut cases that has holes in various parts of my own body haha
But with that being sad, you can tell by both photos they are actually photo shopped... The spike in the chin would never be that high and those hopes do not lay as pierced cartilage would sit.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Anyone that would pierce a grown, non-infant dog who has full sensation and a well-developed neurological system that can FEEL all that piercing to the hilt at the time it happens while being held down and then have to deal with the healing and changing of all those studs is plainly sadistic. A 3 day-old neonate puppy who's just had a tail dock/dews removed has only limited sensation in his still rudimentary nervous system, and he routinely settles to sleep within 3 minutes of the dock/dews procedures ending and is well-healed by the time his nervous system has matured enough to feel much sensation at all. To the contrary, I imagine that bull terrier felt every single piercing and doubt he settled to sleep anywhere near a 3 minute window after the piercings were done! I'll bet that poor guy hurt for days and was tender, sore for weeks, as he likely wasn't pierced as a days-old infant with little sensory development. And I wonder if being a fully developed dog when pierced, anybody considered how he felt as every hole was being made, if the person "working" on him considered how darn scared he must have been during the whole procedure as people or strong ties restrained his struggling body. And I'm sure that poor, hapless dog was fairly well traumatized by the time all the piercings were done and those studs were one-by-one inserted into freshly pierced, living skin!!!

I wonder if anyone bothered to give him a post-piercing pain shot or pill and some pain meds while he was healing and feeling every sore, open area! I would be willing to bet money he had no such relief at all.

What a horrible story I'll bet that poor dog has to tell if he could but talk about what all was done to him from the time they started walking toward him and he knew the fear inside that something bad was about to happen to him, then held him down, at times with great force, did their grisly, painful work for who knows how long and finally let him go! Then, no doubt, later that person was expecting kisses from his dog! The whole thing gives me nightmares!

But don't you realize that dog owners have the "right" to do as they please to their pets??? We would not want to offend the "rights" of the pet owner now would we???

[chachi]

Originally Posted by gracielove

But don't you realize that dog owners have the "right" to do as they please to their pets??? We would not want to offend the "rights" of the pet owner now would we???

What it comes down to is what is it any of your business what someone choses to do with THEIR DOG when it isnt animal abuse and it isnt

[Verbena]

People crop dogs ears at 7-12 weeks old. They have to be put under to do it. That must be painful after

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by chachi

What it comes down to is what is it any of your business what someone choses to do with THEIR DOG when it isnt animal abuse and it isnt

You know that was the same philosophy they used to have concerning wife and child abuse. It was not only condoned it was legal. Thankfully society has changed it's views in that area over the years.

[Belle Noir]

Originally Posted by gracielove

But don't you realize that dog owners have the "right" to do as they please to their pets??? We would not want to offend the "rights" of the pet owner now would we???

It's not dog owners rights to do this in PA. And I am VERY glad of it.

Those pictures though, I really think are photoshopped. At least I really hope it is.

Here is the thing.. If we don't stand against things that are obviously cruelty, we will have the animal rights activists pushing the government to MAKE those choices for us.

All of us in the show world are well away of what Pedigree Dogs Exposed did in the UK show scene, and what has happened in this past years Crufts. THAT is what happens when we, the people who are supposed to be "IMPROVING" the breed get stupid and breed for unhealthy extremes, that is in it's essences, torture breeding.

THIS is why when something like that pops up, we MUST stand against it. It's wrong. Period. And by condoning it, you make the ARs push even more to enact laws that satisfies their better dead than fed agenda.

Oh, and the whole tail dock/ear crop thing.. That goes with what I am saying. That is the government making choices for you and your dog. Because the government decided with the help of AR lobbiests, that tail docking and ear cropping is cruel, you can no longer do this.

And in some places there has been an upswing in tails that have to be docked because the dogs keep breaking them. Of course, these are adult dogs that have gone through numerous tail breakings, now having to have an amputation, which is far worse than having a 3 second procedure at 3 days old, that they forget about in 3 minutes.

I can think of a few things that piercing falls under. Veterinary procedure without license for one. Cruelty, because it's done without anesthesia. Maiming perhaps, because it could be considered disfiguring by the law.

Trust and believe, as this spreads, IF it spreads, you WILL see laws specifically naming this as being animal cruelty. And tucked up in there will be laws about MSN, and the number of intact bitches you can own, and a few others they can stick in there, as pushed by the AR lobbies of that ares, and supported no doubt by the HSUS.

Originally Posted by chachi

What it comes down to is what is it any of your business what someone choses to do with THEIR DOG when it isnt animal abuse and it isnt

But it IS animal abuse in the state of PA, and if you pierce your dog, and the humane society sees your dog with pierced ears, I have 50 bucks that says they will take your dog and put you in jail.
Want to take me up on it, since you're so in for it.
Yes you damned well believe it IS my business what someone does with their dogs. I won't let someone kick their dog in the street, and if I see this I WILL report it to the proper authorities.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by gracielove

But don't you realize that dog owners have the "right" to do as they please to their pets??? We would not want to offend the "rights" of the pet owner now would we???

True. I had forgotten that!

I wonder if that bull terrier photo is photoshopped. I'd lke to think it is.