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You will not find anyone here (I hope) that uses a shock collar on their Yorkie. Most people here stress positive reinforcement training of which a shock collar is not. I hope you will check around on here and find alternatives to a shock collar. Georgie is 7 years old and wouldn't leave our side let alone the yard. |
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I have to wonder why you seem to be hoping for minds and opinions other than your own to change. The wireless fence company engineers may be able to offer further advice, given you have made alterations, and intend to use their product, modified by you, on your 2.7 lb Yorkie. |
I'm confused. Don't most of those collars state not for dogs under 10lbs anyways? I cannot imagine using it on my 16lb dog, let alone a 2.5lb dog! I think electric/wireless fences have their place. I dogsit two Golden Retrievers, and they have a huge yard... the dogs are already very naturally inclined to stick by and I don't think they'd ever run, even without the fence. But the fence/collar is worn just for extra security. But again, they are big dogs, in a culdesac, nowhere near a main road. |
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By the way, some dogs are naturally attuned to territorial boundaries, others...not so much, :p and there are other ways to teach boundaries than with a wireless fence. Even a wireless fence, should you be dead set on using one anyway, requires a good amount of training that may be more difficult to get across to an adventuresome 4 month old Yorkie puppy than putting up a simple physical barrier. A wireless fence is not as simple to use properly as clipping on a collar and letting the dog outside into the 'protected' area. Perhaps you might want to see if you can download an instruction manual for your chosen wireless fence to see their recommendations. A chain lock and some removable velcro'd screening across the opening at the bottom of the 'offending' door may work better to keep both small child and Yorkie puppy in the house and out of danger better than attempting to teach wireless fence boundaries in time to avoid a more serious mishap. Please do understand that there are many alternatives. |
I have a PetSafe Wirless System and so do my parents. Works wonderfully for my Golden. He is a much softer personality than any of my 3 yorkies. It also worked wonderfully for my last golden, Lucky, as well. It is not recommended for dogs under 8 pounds original or 5 pounds for the Stay & play if memory serve me. Your dog is way too small for this type of boundary system especially not for a puppy! Teach your kid not to open door without telling mommy/daddy! If they can let pup out than they are not safe themselves. Baby gates work wonders for yorkies and little kids! Put a hook at the top of the door so that your kid can't open the door. Unsupervised yorkie pup and little kid are a reciped for disaster! Keep the puppy in an X-pen or safe gated area if you can't watch them! Cozy 10 pound yorkie will blow through the system is she feels her pups (Roxy and Lucy) are being threatened! Do to this she is never off leash in an unfenced area. She was trained to the system at 1 point but she blew through the system one day and almost got hit by a car because a Husky was growling and barking at the yorkies. The shock/correction level does not matter to her- Her instinct to protect is stronger for her. She gave birth to ten pups so a little zap means nothing to her. |
Why ask for advice and then ignore it? |
We have friends that tried the wireless fence on their Yellow Lab and he ran through it like it was nothing. But he is a big dog and very intent on running. I can't even imagine a little dog carrying such a device much less suffering the shock. It sounds like the OP wants to use this device rather than training their child or the dog. Problem is the wireless fence does require a lot of training along with the collar. The idea is that the dog learn it's boundaries. Supposedly they get a shock when they move too far into the outer area of the fence. They start by putting stakes into the ground that have a little flag on them so the owner can walk the dog around the boundary over and over as they teach the proper area to the dog. Obedience training comes in here. The shock it's self is supposed to be a reminder and not a total deterrent to leaving the area. If your dog is not obedience trained you are wasting your time and money on an electric fence. A dog that wants to run away will get out. Since the OP will not even take the time to teach a young child about the dangers of opening the door without parental supervision I doubt they want to take the time to train their dog. Putting a small lock latch up high on the door would solve the problem but the OP prefers to do this. I doubt that this would work even if they had a large or medium sized dog since they obviously got the device from someone else without all the material and instructions. If they had taken the time to read the information and study the work involved maybe they would not be considering such a solution. |
I've been on the wrong side of a few issues before, so will just venture forth with this. The Poster was asking for input from folks that are using or have tried the 'electric fence'. Most of the posters have strong opinions, but have not said they have ever installed and used an underground fence. Technically, they don't qualify to post on this thread. First of all, the modern 'electric fence' is not a shock barrier. If you've ever had a 'tens machine' used on you by a chiropractor or physician, you would know it is a muscle stimulator electrode system that at appropriate levels relieves pain -- not creates pain. To be sure, I wouldn't necessarily want to be 'Tens'd' around my neck at an intense level, but there really isn't any way for it to damage me physically. I put in the underground fence, so I feel qualified to post. For my bigger and milder mannered Yorkie (9#), one correction at the lowest level is all it took. He wants nothing to do with the boundaries of the yard and is content to sit in his chair near the sidewalk. I trust him for (very) short periods of time outside in the sun while I clean house and do laundry. My little guy (6#) is another story... He becomes enraged whenever anyone dares walk or run down the street in front of the house or if a neighbor's children begin to play in their own yard. It's as if he is possessed by demons! The fence people said that no dog has challenged the fence for any length of time. My subdivision does not allow fence structures in the front yard, and I don't really have a back yard. Sooo I put in the underground fence. He challenged the fence at increasing levels of correction! Although the fence stops him on three sides of the yard, he continues to run the fence when the neighbors two little boys try to play football in their own yard. I'm dismayed, but have not given up. What is my alternative? He does not train; cannot hear; does not respond to anything when he goes into his rage. I can only try to protect him and my neighbors with a barrier, and my best bet right now is the Underground fence. So please... if you've never tried the underground fence, take a step back for a few minutes; and if you HAVE tried it, whether it was a success or failure, we are interested in your personal experiences. thank you. |
I've been on the wrong side of a few issues before, so will just venture forth with this. The Poster was asking for input from folks that are using or have tried the 'electric fence'. Most of the posters have strong opinions, but have not said they have ever installed and used an underground fence. Technically, they don't qualify to post on this thread. First of all, the modern 'electric fence' is not a shock barrier. If you've ever had a 'tens machine' used on you by a chiropractor or physician, you would know it is a muscle stimulator electrode system that at appropriate levels relieves pain -- not creates pain. To be sure, I wouldn't necessarily want to be 'Tens'd' around my neck at an intense level, but there really isn't any way for it to damage me physically. I put in the underground fence, so I feel qualified to post. For my bigger and milder mannered Yorkie (9#), one correction at the lowest level is all it took. He wants nothing to do with the boundaries of the yard and is content to sit in his chair near the sidewalk. I trust him for (very) short periods of time outside in the sun while I clean house and do laundry. My little guy (6#) is another story... He becomes enraged whenever anyone dares walk or run down the street in front of the house or if a neighbor's children begin to play in their own yard. It's as if he is possessed by demons! The fence people said that no dog has challenged the fence for any length of time. My subdivision does not allow fence structures in the front yard, and I don't really have a back yard. Sooo I put in the underground fence. He challenged the fence at increasing levels of correction! Although the fence stops him on three sides of the yard, he continues to run the fence when the neighbors two little boys try to play football in their own yard. I'm dismayed, but have not given up. What is my alternative? He does not train; cannot hear; does not respond to anything when he goes into his rage. I can only try to protect him and my neighbors with a barrier, and my best bet right now is the Underground fence. So please... if you've never tried the underground fence, take a step back for a few minutes; and if you HAVE tried it, whether it was a success or failure, we are interested in your personal experiences. thank you. |
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She has been taught not to go out the gate...she is just 4mths old. You can train a pup what the boundaries are without shocking their poor little bodies. I would NEVER use those things on my babies....I have three....they all KNOW mommy does not want them going through the gate. I live on a side street with little activity, car wise....they could still be hit by a car, stolen, or taken by predators....to me unsupervised outside is a no no...I am always out there with them. There is no danger of them getting out my front door as I use baby gates to contain them indoors. My house is Grand Central Station as I have 2 university bound boys...when they are home the neighbourhood knows and are constanly stopping by. Please reconsider this electric fence or whatever it is. You would be doing more harm that good...JMO |
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