AKC does keep the records for many many generations of purebred dogs. While puppy mills and backyard breeders can misrepresent the puppies they register reputable breeders have proof of their dog's ancestry in their pedigrees.

A registry that allows you to register a dog with no proof of ancestry is not a valid registry of purebred dogs. They misrepresent the blood lines of the breeder.

I see no reason to obtain papers for a pet. A pet is to be loved and enjoyed and has no need of papers except to prove the ancestry of the puppies parents to the new owner. You can have no confidence in registry that allows anyone to "register" a dog without proof of ancestry.

Designer dogs are obviously not purebred. I have no issue with a mixed breed - just the breeders that are ripping off the public and the fact that the shelters are putting down thousands of the rejected designers daily.

It takes many generations of well documented breeding to even submit a breed for recognition in AKC. Then it takes much more observation by the registry to be accept. Very few new breeds are accepted. The genetics involved in creating a new purebred line and having it be stable enough to produce offspring that are genetically the same are so complex that it is a very rare happening.

Agreed...Your baby is adorable! :D

I've never bought a purebred dog...all of my pets have been ferals or rescues, even the purebred ones...even my purebred Yorkies.

However, I 'happened' onto a 'children's clothing and pet store' in a small town while looking for an 'open' supplier of a specific dog food listed on it's manufacturer's website. This retail store, among other things like childrens' clothing and pet supplies, sell puppies, which are kept on-site in their 'puppy room' in the back of their store, and say (verbally, at least) to in-store customers that "all of our breeders breed only teacups" and that they "do not ship" puppies.

If you are aware of 'customary' prices of purebreds, you might want to compare those prices with the ones here:

"Designer Dogs" page:
Designer Puppies - Cassie's Closet

The first two (2) entries on the above page:

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Micro Teacup Golden Morkie Prince
Absolutely Adorable!
Price $4,500.00

Micro Teacup Maltipoo Princess
Tiny 11 oz at 8 Weeks!
Price $5,000.00

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Personally, I think $4,500 - $5,000 for a mixed breed is as questionable as having puppies on-site in a retail clothing (and puppy) store...:eek::confused::(:mad: I have no idea who takes care of the puppies overnight or when the store is closed, but I saw 2 Yorkie puppies, 1 Shih Tzu, and a 4th puppy...I forget what it was...it has been some time since I went there and I didn't go back there to look...the ones I saw were just inside the puppy room.

Assuming their prices are/were accurate/valid for these mixed breed puppies, on the "Designer Dogs" pages, there are 28 listed as being at $2k or more...all but 3, which are currently available, are shown as "sold".

Home page:
Teacup Puppies for Sale and Boutique for Children and their Pets - Cassie's Closet

I have no idea WHY people buy mixed breed dogs at these prices, and have no further information other than what is shown on their website, and what I saw while looking for cat and dog foods, and heard paying (they kept us waiting...we were paying before the 'puppy sales Q&A' started...lol) for a flavor mine don't even appear to like. :p:D

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Wow...that website just makes me sick! You know, I have 2 mixes...love them dearly. Im so glad that I knew better than to think they were "designer" dogs . They are mutts.....beautiful sweet mutts, but mutts all the same. I pity the people who buy these tiny babies just for show. No telling how many health problems they may have.... and 5-10 thousand bucks...just sad, very sad.

I guess the new owner is going to be a bit upset when their "micro teacup" that they paid $2000 for turns into a 12lb dog!:eek:

The sad thing is because of that it will probably get sent to the pound.

LOL I saw photos several months ago of a female with her "teacup" Yorkie, and had to laugh. Either she was a "teacup" human or the Yorkie was bigger than Brody. :p

Also, I was recently in a story swap where breeders' fav "teacup" stories were being shared, and we were all having a good chuckle, and one show breeder said she learned early on in her breeding career to ask "how much are you expecting the "teacup" Yorkie to weigh" and people would say stuff like "'teacup,' you know, 10 pounds"...lol

Did you go see the puppies, while you were at the store?

I can't get over how many puppies they have for sale, and what gets me is how many of the mixes were more $$ than the purebreds. I guess they do a lot of shipping:mad: I wish an organization in their area would do an investigation on where they are getting all their puppies from.

It's amazing that there are that are so many stupid buyers out there willing to shell out so much money, it just feeds these type of places:mad: I also can not belive how many people buy a dog off an internet and sight unseen have it shipped. Lola is now worth a million dollars to me, but I would never even come close to paying that much and would only bring a dog into my home that I have seen in person and spent time with first.

I have had lots of "mutts" myself...lol...like you said, "beautiful sweet mutts, but mutts all the same." In fact, all of my previous dogs (and cats) were "mutts"...great companions, great pets, and I am privileged to have been allowed to enjoy them. Brody and Mia are my first purebreds...unregistered...but purebred.

It is very sad that people are looking for an "icon" in the super tiny dogs rather than a companion pet...the disenchantment rate is way too high, IMHO...once the "new" wears off, the dog often needs a new home.

An interesting thing to me is the user of the word "designer" which indicates that the "designer" had some inkling what s/he was "designing" or in this case, physically creating. A purebred breeder certainly should have SOME idea what their creation 'should' look like, and even then, sometimes there are 'surprises' that will occur. I am guessing also that there are 'breeders' ('greeders' etc.) that may not know...lol

In the case of "mutts" ("Designer" / "Heinz 57" dogs), how could the "designer" possibly hope to know what the offspring of a cross breeding will look like...therefore, how could the "designer" EVER claim to have "designed" that puppy to look like that? It is, as I understand it, the luck of the genetic draw...at least it was with all the "oops's" I've been involved with or known about...lol

Love my morkie
 

Hi. I am new to the community and found this to be a very helpful site and wanted to be a part of it! :) I have a adorable pup that is a "morkie". I wouldn't trade him for anything. His face captured my heart and that was all that mattered, not the fact that he was a mixed baby. He is as sweet as can be and is a quiet little pup.

Welcome to YT! you may want to start a new thread and introduce yourself and Bentley!

If you look at their website, they seem to have left every puppy they've ever sold up like a banner...perhaps to attract customers.

We actually took Brody and Mia with us and we did step into the "puppy room" which has a sign not to enter unaccompanied. There were two apparently Yorkie (labeled as Yorkies) puppies...one wanted to come with us, the other completely ignored everyone...and a little Shih puppy...who also wanted to come home with us. There was a 4th puppy (that we saw from just inside the door) but I do not recall what it was other than that it has black on it. We ALWAYS keep Brody and Mia off the floor in stores, so we were carrying them and I didn't want to expose them further to anything, so we left. I just wanted to see if they kept live puppies in the store...which they do.

We bought a bag of food...more expensive than the usual place we buy the flavor Brody and Mia like...lol...so I will never go back there, and they started ringing us up. Then a lady and a teen (I think...this is from memory from last year...lol) approached the registers and started asking questions about the puppies. So, the cashier "suspended" US from finishing paying for the food and we were left holding the Yorkies and credit card...lol...and were therefore 'forced' to overhear the entire conversation. They told that lady that their breeders only breed for teacups and that is all they sell, but that they do not ship their puppies so if she wanted to buy one, and she was from out of town, she would have to come pick it up. I thought I saw on their website yesterday like 'ask about our hand delivery' but I am not certain of that.

In any case, I had seen the store before but thought it was just a children's (girls') clothing boutique because the front window had clothes on display and it was named "Cassie's Closet"...lol I had no idea they sold puppies...none whatsoever...there is nothing on the outside to indicate there are animals inside or pet sales...until I was searching locations that sell that food and the manufacturer's website listed them.

I thought it was odd at the time...Cassie's "Pantry" perhaps...lol...but "Closet"? When I went to their website, I thought it was even weirder...a very strange combination of "products" for retail sales....but it was not the first time I've found weird combinations of products in 'small town' geographical areas. In fact, I used to buy organic kitty litter at a breeder supply near Ocala that also had a 'weird' combination of products...not surprisingly, they also sold equine products. (The Ocala area calls itself "the horse capital of the world" to the dismay of at least one Kentucky city...lol) I do not live in Ocala...neither does John Travolta actually live IN the City of Ocala but you will see him shown as 'living in Ocala'...lol, but that is one of the closest places with some variety of shopping albeit not like the huge selection and variety available in the Boston and surrounding area...which I have to admit I miss...:p...and it's right off the interstate.

Since that time, a new company has opened up in the town where my son works and some of our friends live that has fresh, 'home made' organic pet foods...and where there is also a nice pet bakery :D, it is unlikely I will ever step foot in the puppy selling children's "closet" again.

Yes, and...Hi and welcome! Be sure to post photos, too!

Thank you both! This tread caught my because my baby is a mixed pup. He is a "morkie".

There is a chain pet "boutique" in a town near us. They specialize in 'designer' dogs. They get them from a broker. I don't understand how they stay in business. They have a website (of course.) It's called The Puppy Patch. I won't even link it for fear it would encourage someone to go there. They don't advertize the prices just the poor little 5-6 week old puppies. They try to sell them when they are very young so people will think they are going to be "micro teacup.":mad:

My Grandson came for a visit from Arizona Fathers Day with his Chihuahua. Maggie was so happy to have someone her size to play with. (he is 4lbs9oz).
OOPS
2 boys and a girl born yesterday....my education to so called "designer breeds"
She has never "shown" to be in season. (3 years old)...obviously does not matter.
As soon as the babies quit nursing she will be spayed.

Wow....So glad it all turned out ok. Especially if you had no idea! Good luck to you and your little girl

I now have two purebred Yorkshire Terriers. But...ALL of my previous dogs were 'designer' dogs, and so were my parents' dogs, and my grandparents' dogs...:p Back then we called them 'Heinz 57' for the most part...lol I did have some that the breed was known or identified...a Yorki-Poo, a Doxie-Poo, and plenty of Shep-Radors...and the 'Heinz 57' mutts, of course. Back then, acquiring a 'designer' dog was easy and only the cost was to feed, vet and welp your or your neighbor's dog and between the sire's and the dam's families, find homes for all the cute, cuddly, little yipping oops' you ended up with because of that hole you had to fix in the fence. :D

Now, they cost as much as a full size car and have their own registry...:eek::p:D

LOL I'm right there with you....same life experiences.
Patti

I'm so glad that Maggie is doing well, and I hope the puppies do also. Good luck with them. I hate the exploitation of both puppy mill dogs and this whole designer dog craze, but I love all puppies and dogs, purebred or not. I hope they all are healthy and that they are loved their whole lives.