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I'd rather see dogs debarked than taken from owners &/or PTS. |
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With a debark surgery the procedure is to make a very small incision just a slit not a hole in the vocal cord & depending on how far up or down the cord the incision is made will determine the sound, how high or low the voice will be or if it will sound hoarse or not, this is not a guarantee but he was very good at a debark. I have seen 150 lb American Bulldog come out sounding just like a yorkie and as loud as a yorkie, this would be considered a failed surgery. The vet I worked for did the debark surgery often for a particular breeder in our area who bred & showed Shelties. The breeder said that her show dogs HAD to be debarked or they would not be allowed in the building. I know that Shelties have a very loud bark & can only imagine how loud a room with many Shelties could be, but would be deafening for sure. The vet I worked for always had the owner bring the dog back after 2 days for a recheck & he Always would give the dog a treat to see how it was eating & they Always gobbled the treat rite up. He said that if the dog was in pain after 2 days then he had not done his job rite & he also gave a small amt of water as soon as the dog opened their eyes after the debark surgery & after about 2 hrs he gave them some canned food & they always gobbled it up like they had never had surgery. |
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I agree TRAINING is the answer, and this is coming from someone that grew up with Collies and Shelties - Sadly, 2 of the most common breeds to be debarked :( I've known many debarked dogs - Alot make a gasping noise. Sadly, my Benjamin has been debarked. Didn't realize it until this morning, I heard what I thought was him coughing until I realized he was trying to bark at the cat teasing him, made me cry to hear that horrible noise - I'd rather deal with the barking! |
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My neighbor asked if I'd consider debarking. I medicate him for his separation anxiety have worked with several trainer and behaviorist. Some dog will be barkers. Derik's ex-wife's dog came to me a trained alerter she would spin and bark incessantly, on top of that she was poorly trained other than to alert & wouldn't listen to me. I won't lie, I considered debarking her after the first trainer refused to work with her. I persevered though, she left me finally house broken, much better behaved and stopping barking on command- after a year: however even in her new home (I only took her in on a temporary foster basis) she is still an alerter-her new home wanted her and her altering ability. |
I don't care for the debarking idea, I think it's cruel. Any dag can be trained not to bark if only the owner is willing to take the time to do it, certainly easier on the dog than having a steel rod shoved down his throat. Milo is still very young but has discovered his barker. Sometimes he uses it when it's inappropriate but he is learning and together we will work it out. Personally I want him to be able to bark, he is a dog after all and his bark is music to my ears. |
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Citronella collars are very dangerous-they burn eyes, & nose, they can cause nasal & eye infections. Vibration collars work well too safe, and effective. I've found the beep function on them only make barkers go off more. When I say vibrate I literally mean vibration not static or shock or any 'corrective stimulation' it just vibrates. |
How sad!! |
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I will admit that I did use a Citronella collar on my Westie - I think it was much preferable to debarking. It didn't take but about one time for him to figure the entire thing out. Now, we just put it on him in the early, early morning or late at night. The collar ran out of citronella about a year ago - but, again, he's no dummy. |
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