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citygirl123 03-21-2012 11:19 PM
Micro chipping
 
The dog police came around today. They asked if Copper had a license. Yes....they asked if he had been micro chipped. No. Then I was told that in my city it is now required that I have him micro chipped.
What I want to know is Why? Why is this mandatory? Who decides this stuff?

kjc 03-21-2012 11:30 PM
Maybe the mayor? City Council...IDK. Any loose dog problems in your city?

citygirl123 03-22-2012 12:09 AM
I don't know about loose dog problems. It is a big city.

Does micro chipping your dog bother anyone else?
This bugs me. Of course I don't want my dog to get lost and not returned. But he does wear a collar with info on it.

I'm not crazy about having something injected into my dog.

kjc 03-22-2012 12:53 AM
Mine are all microchipped, as are my cats.

Maybe dog thefts are up in your city. IDK, when you find out why, let us know.

I do think GPS tracking should be included inside the microchip. They are really no worse than vaccines. Collars can be removed, chips not so easily.

bondai 03-22-2012 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by citygirl123 (Post 3857439)
I don't know about loose dog problems. It is a big city.

Does micro chipping your dog bother anyone else?
This bugs me. Of course I don't want my dog to get lost and not returned. But he does wear a collar with info on it.

I'm not crazy about having something injected into my dog.
Chipping won't hurt the dog and it will make him easier to recover if he gets lost. The thing that bothers me is that some city council thinks they have the right to tell me I have to do it.

kjc 03-22-2012 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bondai (Post 3857460)
Chipping won't hurt the dog and it will make him easier to recover if he gets lost. The thing that bothers me is that some city council thinks they have the right to tell me I have to do it.
I agree, but it really depends on why they are doing this. I'm assuming maybe this is one way to make irresponsible dog owners accountable for their dogs.

What city is this anyway?

sbgooljar 03-22-2012 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by citygirl123 (Post 3857427)
The dog police came around today. They asked if Copper had a license. Yes....they asked if he had been micro chipped. No. Then I was told that in my city it is now required that I have him micro chipped.
What I want to know is Why? Why is this mandatory? Who decides this stuff?
Lynn, are you serious? I think it should be the owner's option to microchip or not to microchip. I will say however that lately on the news there are numerous stories of abandoned and abused pets and maybe this is the city's way of ensuring they hold pet owners accountable (?).

Romeo was microchipped when we got him and just recently I updated all my contact information again.. I wish the microchip had GPS so they can be tracked the the exact location!

Lovetodream88 03-22-2012 04:34 AM
I think its wrong for them to tell you that you have to microchip your dog I think it should be a personal choice. I am not thrilled about micro chips either (yes I know there are been some the reunited dogs with owners) one because there are a few different types so if your dog has one type but the person who is checking him with a scanner for another type it wont work and at one point they where talking the chips possibly causing cancer.

Joyce Adams 03-22-2012 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3857523)
I think its wrong for them to tell you that you have to microchip your dog I think it should be a personal choice. I am not thrilled about micro chips either (yes I know there are been some the reunited dogs with owners) one because there are a few different types so if your dog has one type but the person who is checking him with a scanner for another type it wont work and at one point they where talking the chips possibly causing cancer.
Yes they need a universal chip so they can all be scanned by one instrument. They are working on that, not sure when it will come into fruition. But for the city to say it has to be done is just so wrong.

CoCos_Mom 03-22-2012 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sbgooljar (Post 3857499)
Lynn, are you serious? I think it should be the owner's option to microchip or not to microchip. I will say however that lately on the news there are numerous stories of abandoned and abused pets and maybe this is the city's way of ensuring they hold pet owners accountable (?).

Romeo was microchipped when we got him and just recently I updated all my contact information again.. I wish the microchip had GPS so they can be tracked the the exact location!

This^^^^

I was under the impression that the microchip HAD GPS!!!!! So, if it doesn't have GPS, how exactly does the microchip system work? What's the point then? Someone can still take my dog and I not get her back. Can someone explain how the microchip REALLY works???

carmen in nj 03-22-2012 05:59 AM
All my dogs are microchiped, all the puppies that leave my home are microchiped,it does NOT hurt the dog, only rare instances of the dog's inmune system rejecting the microchip have been reported. I follow most of the reports.To me is one more way of making sure that this dog is returned to his rightful owner if ever gets stolen or lost.
NOW on the other hand, I hate the fact that the Goverment, is TELLING you what you have to do, it should be YOUR choice. the bigger the goverment, bigger and more mandates we get..
hugs,
and no the microchip does not have GPS, it needs to be scan with a special scaner, and it shows a number, when you register that number with a company like pet link the person who scans calls the registry and your informations pups up.
hugs,

myhuckieduckie 03-22-2012 06:30 AM
I don't know who decides it, but it is better in my opinion to have your pets microchipped. You have a greater chance of getting them back if they ever run away or get stolen.

I got my Huck micro chipped for a $20 donation at a local animal shelter, a heck of a lot cheaper than what his vet would of charged me.

chachi 03-22-2012 06:48 AM
My dogs are microchipped however I dont think the City should require you to put a microchip in your dog, That is a matter of choice

Britster 03-22-2012 07:05 AM
Chips are perfectly safe. Jackson has one and I wouldn't have a dog without one. However, I think it's your choice and shouldn't be made mandatory.

Britster 03-22-2012 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CoCos_Mom (Post 3857580)
This^^^^

I was under the impression that the microchip HAD GPS!!!!! So, if it doesn't have GPS, how exactly does the microchip system work? What's the point then? Someone can still take my dog and I not get her back. Can someone explain how the microchip REALLY works???
No. A microchip is simply a way that a veterinarian, or an animal shelter, etc, can "scan" your dog (and that's literally what they do) and then all of the owner's information pops up on the screen. This is just another way of confirming ownership and PROVING the dog is in fact yours. Now, of course, if someone purposely steals your dog, I am sure they will go out of their way NOT to take it somewhere where it will get scanned. But that's why I don't keep his microchip tag on his collar, because I'd prefer people NOT to know he's chipped. It's just an added layer of security.

A GPS microchip is not possible, yet, so I really think it'd be an amazing thing when and if it happens. The only problem with this is that it's an active device, vs. a passive chip. An active device like GPS transmitter needs a battery, a dog chip doesn't.

CoCos_Mom 03-22-2012 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3857657)
No. A microchip is simply a way that a veterinarian, or an animal shelter, etc, can "scan" your dog (and that's literally what they do) and then all of the owner's information pops up on the screen. This is just another way of confirming ownership and PROVING the dog is in fact yours. Now, of course, if someone purposely steals your dog, I am sure they will go out of their way NOT to take it somewhere where it will get scanned. But that's why I don't keep his microchip tag on his collar, because I'd prefer people NOT to know he's chipped. It's just an added layer of security.

A GPS microchip is not possible, yet, so I really think it'd be an amazing thing when and if it happens. The only problem with this is that it's an active device, vs. a passive chip. An active device like GPS transmitter needs a battery, a dog chip doesn't.
Got it! Thanks

Yorkiedaze 03-22-2012 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by citygirl123 (Post 3857427)
The dog police came around today. They asked if Copper had a license. Yes....they asked if he had been micro chipped. No. Then I was told that in my city it is now required that I have him micro chipped.
What I want to know is Why? Why is this mandatory? Who decides this stuff?
Call the animal shelter and ask them if it's the law there. It sure isn't the law here and I don't know who is responsible for this in your area. I hope the people who came to your house were legitimate! Anytime someone comes to my house asking questions, I ask them for their company's phone # so I can verify if they are who they say.

Nancy1999 03-22-2012 03:49 PM
Unfortunately irresponsible dog owners ruin it for all. Your county voters decided that this might help them get rid of a stray dog problem. Also, dog fighting is very big, and the people do not want the dogs linked to them, with a microchip authorities will no who owes what dog, and this is thought to help control illegal dog fighting. Joey's chipped and it makes me feel safer.

bondai 03-22-2012 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3858211)
Unfortunately irresponsible dog owners ruin it for all. Your county voters decided that this might help them get rid of a stray dog problem. Also, dog fighting is very big, and the people do not want the dogs linked to them, with a microchip authorities will no who owes what dog, and this is thought to help control illegal dog fighting. Joey's chipped and it makes me feel safer.
You mention the dog fighting problem, terrible. We have a big problem here in phoenix. It seems to be linked culturally to some groups.No matter what the reason it needs to be snuffed out and carry some very harsh penalties for participating.

Nancy1999 03-22-2012 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bondai (Post 3858229)
You mention the dog fighting problem, terrible. We have a big problem here in phoenix. It seems to be linked culturally to some groups.No matter what the reason it needs to be snuffed out and carry some very harsh penalties for participating.
I know it just kills me that people don't understand how horrible this is. I agree with you, some people were raised around it and think of it as a wonderful sport; :eek: I really wished Michael Vick could have done more to help teach others that this needs to stop.

bondai 03-22-2012 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3858236)
I know it just kills me that people don't understand how horrible this is. I agree with you, some people were raised around it and think of it as a wonderful sport; :eek: I really wished Michael Vick could have done more to help teach others that this needs to stop.
Heck, he was rewarded for his behavior. A man in his position should know better.

gracielove 03-22-2012 05:05 PM
Gracie is micro chipped but I did it of my own free will. It is unfortunate but these town and city councils can make whatever laws they want to. Many people don't get involved in their local politics but this is a good example of why we should be closely involved in what is going on in local politics.

A town council near where I live made it against the law to let your cat outside. I was watching a news piece on TV just this week about a couple with 4 dogs who purchased a house in a certain residential area. When they were all moved in they were informed by the local police that they have a law that they cannot have more than 2 dogs.
Now they are selling the house and will be taking a huge loss because they will not get rid of one of their dogs. In the mean time the town is trying to fine them $1000.00 a day for having their dogs.

citygirl123 03-22-2012 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 3858203)
Call the animal shelter and ask them if it's the law there. It sure isn't the law here and I don't know who is responsible for this in your area. I hope the people who came to your house were legitimate! Anytime someone comes to my house asking questions, I ask them for their company's phone # so I can verify if they are who they say.
Hi...first of all, thanks to all who posted on my thread.
Yes the guy was legitimate. I also looked up codes for my city and they are now requiring the micro chip, so that is accurate.
I live in Riverside, California. All I can say is California...one of the most regulated states there are...we have laws up the wazoo.

I guess I was just taken back when the guy showed up yesterday. I mean Copper is neutered (also required unless you are a "known" breeder what ever the heck that means) has all his shots, rabies, etc. and licensed. I have complied with the law. He wears a collar with his name and my information. He weighs 4 lbs, is not vicious and is in the house or with me or a responsible caregiver. I realize he could get lost through unusual circumstances. But come on...what more can you ask of us as pet owners?

I have decided to wait a while before I micro chip him. It still bugs me to do this.

gracielove 03-23-2012 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by citygirl123 (Post 3858432)
Hi...first of all, thanks to all who posted on my thread.
Yes the guy was legitimate. I also looked up codes for my city and they are now requiring the micro chip, so that is accurate.
I live in Riverside, California. All I can say is California...one of the most regulated states there are...we have laws up the wazoo.

I guess I was just taken back when the guy showed up yesterday. I mean Copper is neutered (also required unless you are a "known" breeder what ever the heck that means) has all his shots, rabies, etc. and licensed. I have complied with the law. He wears a collar with his name and my information. He weighs 4 lbs, is not vicious and is in the house or with me or a responsible caregiver. I realize he could get lost through unusual circumstances. But come on...what more can you ask of us as pet owners?

I have decided to wait a while before I micro chip him. It still bugs me to do this.
Is the city helping people to pay for this expense? I mean the actual microchip is not that much but by the time someone has to pay for a vet visit and other added things that need to be done it can be costly. It seems like they should set up a microchip clinic for people who cannot afford the added expense since they are requiring people to do this. How long do you have to comply with this law?

CouversMom 03-23-2012 07:29 AM
I wish we had more laws about dog ownership where I live. The majority of people are irresponsible (let their dogs roam, leave their dogs out during the day and or night, don't have collars on their dogs... etc). I think the microchipping law would be something that could be enforced and make people accountable for their pets. People here just drop their dogs off at the shelter like it's no big deal... It's sad!

gracielove 03-23-2012 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CouversMom (Post 3858751)
I wish we had more laws about dog ownership where I live. The majority of people are irresponsible (let their dogs roam, leave their dogs out during the day and or night, don't have collars on their dogs... etc). I think the microchipping law would be something that could be enforced and make people accountable for their pets. People here just drop their dogs off at the shelter like it's no big deal... It's sad!
Actually, with the economic down turn more and more people are having to get rid of their pets. Adding one more expense on an already financially stressed family could very well mean the pet is going to the pound or get dumped before they have to invest more money in it. It's a sad fact that most people will dump the family pet before they turn off the WiFi. Many pets are found with a mico chip that has outdated info on it and no owner is ever found. There are solutions to some of your issues but I don't think microchipping would be one of them.

citygirl123 03-23-2012 12:57 PM
They did not give me a time limit. Just said to call the number underlined after I had it done. They gave me a flyer for a cheap clinic. I wouldn't use that clinic even if it was free. Nothing against the clinic; I would use my own vet. It is not about the money for me. We aren't rolling in dough...but I know we could afford this. I just don't want to do this. I don't want to put my dog through another vet visit and I don't want to be forced to do this when I feel like I have resonably complied with the law.

gracielove 03-23-2012 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by citygirl123 (Post 3859044)
They did not give me a time limit. Just said to call the number underlined after I had it done. They gave me a flyer for a cheap clinic. I wouldn't use that clinic even if it was free. Nothing against the clinic; I would use my own vet. It is not about the money for me. We aren't rolling in dough...but I know we could afford this. I just don't want to do this. I don't want to put my dog through another vet visit and I don't want to be forced to do this when I feel like I have resonably complied with the law.
I agree with you totally. I would just hate to see more people dumping their pets because of such a law.

Nancy1999 03-23-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 3859113)
I agree with you totally. I would just hate to see more people dumping their pets because of such a law.
Anyone dumping their pets because they had to get the microchipped doesn't deserve a dog.

gracielove 03-24-2012 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3859173)
Anyone dumping their pets because they had to get the microchipped doesn't deserve a dog.
Maybe so. However, the pet that once at least had a home with food now gets dumped on some dead end road or left at an already over burdened shelter. There are no easy solutions when a family is having a hard time feeding it's members. While pet lovers who have a regular paycheck coming in can easily say they would never do that, there are a lot of people who will make the hard choice to part with Fido when they are struggling just to put food on the table. There are people out there who have lost their ability to keep their homes much less their pets. It's easy to judge when you are not in that situation.


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