We want the puppy experience
 

Twenty-five years ago my parents and I had a yorkie that we gave us two litters (3 each time). We never got an ultrasound or even thought about a c-section. It was a great experience for all of us in the house.

Today I have a 30 month old 7lb. female yorkie. Her hips started to become wide when she was about 18 months old. She is now in her 3rd heat. We've got a stud lined up.

My wife called a vet today and was quoted $4,000 for a c-section:eek:. First question is: how do I really know if she needs one? Second is: how much should I really expect to pay.

We really want to give our kids the experience of watching their dog change as she goes through the process of carrying the pups and then delivering. I know it's not easy and there is a lot that has to be done when the pups are delivered. However, one important point is that I must break even on this little experience.:)

Thanks,
Jeff

Oh dear...........

Dear, dear, Jeff....all I'm going to say is read, read alot on here and IMHO you probably should have read on here loooong before now....Break even? I have no words, I'm over $25,000 in debt just to keep mine healthy and alive, shes a great, loyal and loving little one...and we never did breed her...

Best of luck to your pup and at the very least please make sure she is healthy and well cared for, its really not about the experience for all of you, its about her health...

Please forgive me if I am reading this all wrong...am having a bad day.

Welcome to YT, I think...

That is not a good reason to enter into breeding yorkies. Have both yorkies been thoroughly checked for any genetic problems? Are they both AKC registered? Does anyone involved have a mentor or know why a mentor is necessary?

Well, I apologize. I just caught that statement in red. If you're concerned with "breaking even" then you certainly shouldn't be involved in breeding AT ALL.

Are you for real? Or just trying to wind us up???

Majority of reputable breeders very rarely break even.

If you want your kids to have the experience of a dog going through pregnancy and delivery there are lots of videos online. They're free so you won't have to worry about "breaking even" and they won't put your little girl's life in danger because of your complete lack of knowledge as to what's involved in making the decision to breed a dog.

LOL, post like this one make me sweat... and give me a headache... and I am an experience breeder... oh dear is right...
I don't have a litter unless I have $5,000.00 in the bank. and I breed silky terrier which is a bigger sturdier dog...

OMG, Seriously???
I can't say what I really think so I will just sign off now after reading this.
Sheez some people.

First off you need to find out if your dog should be bred, is she an excellent example of the breed, is she AKC registered, has she been health tested has she been checked for LP if no to these questions you should not breed. If you decided to anyway the stud needs to be AKC, health checked, smaller then the female and checked for LP. If you cannot afford a c-section or x-rays that she will need to have to see how many pups she has then I would say breeding is not for you and you should get her spayed immediately. I am sure you could find another way to let your kids experience that. You should do lots and lots and lots of research before even thinking about breeding. Also be aware that your kids could experience your dog dying because something goes wrong or the pups or some of the pups dying too.

My advice is to take your children to the local pound for a real life experience and lessons about what indiscriminate breeding is doing for the pups.

Why so much $$$
 

How long have you had your doggie?

he can also show a video from U tube if you want the WHOLE experience..
ok, I am out of here before I say something that is not nice... I promise myself that I would never get involved in this type of thread...
hugs,

Carmen, you are needed, your voice is needed..your experience is needed eh never mind this is a thread I'm breaking from too..


Unbelieveable...this whole day on here...I am going to bed....arrrrrggggghhhh

Too funny and so true!!!
 

All seems very idealic and naive!!! I am lucky I can handle my ONE little guy let alone a mama and her litter which I promise to post soon once I get back on my desktop!!

OK. Everyone so far is trying to hold back because they don't know if you are for real or not and if you are for real they really would not have anything to say that would help you except to encourage you not to do this.

I have a question though. What is this about her hips getting wide at 18 months??? You are kidding right?

He's an idea, and sorry for the sarcasm, why not go to a dog pound and rescue a furbaby there and let your kids see the experience of CHANGING a furkids life. There's millions of furkids in dog pounds dying every day because no one wants them. Make a difference, save a life and change a life.... Again, sorry for the sarcasm....

You should never breed your dogs because you want your children to experience childbirth. You should only breed your dog if she could benefit the breed. We all think our pets are the best but has she been health tested? Has she been in a show ring? What have you done with her to make sure she is producing puppies that benefit the breed?

Go to petfinder.com and look up how many Yorkies are already in shelters all across the US.

I too would like to breed but I wouldn't do it just to get "the puppy experience" If you knew anything you would know your not going to "break even" There is a lot involved in breeding and you can't just breed for the fun of it. Apparently you haven't taken her to the vet and discussed if she is healthy enough to breed and talked to them about what could go wrong and what to do if something did go wrong. You don't even know how to tell if something is wrong since you ask how do you know if she needs a c-section. Calling the vet and getting a quote doesn't count.
If you are really set on breeding her please wait and do lots and lots of research and visit your vet to make sure you know everything that there is to know before breeding her.
You would hate to lose your little girl from whelping or something going wrong just to get that "puppy experience."

I'd certainly hate for your desire for your children to have "the puppy experience" to become "the burying our dog experience". The reality is, you could lose her. especially if you're not willing to shell out thousands of dollars for her to have a c-section if it's needed. Break even? HA! Most of the breeders here will tell you that not only do they not break even, they spend well beyond what any puppies bring in AND lots of time as well.

Spay your dog and prolong her life!

7 years and one I have only had for less than 2 months...that one has already cost over $8000 - I am not saying this to brag, I am saying this because this is exactly what can happen...having a pet can and often does cost alot of money, emergencies cost mucho dollars....

eta: I do this because the each time the problem was curable, and while my girls have had alot of problems - their quality of life has always been wonderful....I love my pups..

I also have a Maltese, and am a member if Spoiled Maltese. Not long ago, a member in Chili, started a S O S thread? Her little Maltese was having puppies, she didn't have a clue what to do. She ended up losing a little male , and almost lost the mother. Members on SM tried to help her but it was a very intense experience. Since she has already been bred, you need to arm yourself with all the information that you can, and have a vet on standby if the need arises! Then get your dog spayed!!!!!

Not going to even bother...


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:thumbup: Well said!

I am not a breeder but have had 2 litters from accidental dog breedings and 3 litters from pregnant feral cats...and many others at home when we were children...and I just have one question: Break even? What exactly IS that...!

Read This !
 

To the OP, you need to read this post. This very thing is why you should not breed your dog. There are too many things that yorkies are prone to these days, due to back yard breeding. These are just some things that you need to read up on = AAI, Chiari, GME, Liver Shunt. And don't think that your dog or the stud is free from carrying the possibility to throw pups with these horrible things because unless you have spent at least a couple of thousand dollars on your girl, she is AKC & she came from a very reputable breeder & the stud you have chosen has also then you do run a very high risk of bringing pups with life long health issues into this world. Not to mention loosing your girl & all of her pups. Is that something you are prepared for ? Because these are the things that you need to consider before you add to the already overwhelming population of pets in need in the world & there are rescues FULL of yorkies that need homes, so many that most of them are full & have to turn yorkies away as there are not enough people to foster.
I agree, go to Utube & watch a birth & go to your local shelter for a reality check. Each time you buy one will die. Please reconsider.

Dear Sir, Spend 7-15 years studying lines and pedigrees. About year 12, get you an EXPERIENCED breeder as a mentor. In the meantime, be stock piling money, at least $12,00.00/year, to cover this little adventure you are embarking on. After year 15, you go out and purchase you a Champion Yorkie, with pedigree papers that look like they are hemorrhaging in red ink. Expect to spend $4000.00-$10,000.00 conservatively for this dog. You know what this dog has behind it for at least 18 generations. You know what lines go with what you have, in order to produce what you want in your puppies. You have a credit card with an unlimited credit line, because when you have to run into the emergency room at 2am, to save your $10,000.00 dog and the babies she is carrying, you throw that card up on the counter and tell them "Do whatever is necessary", and I can guarantee you, that $4000.00 your vet quoted you wont even get you out of there....... I can NOT believe anyone would even approach this with the attitude, "I need to break even". You go buy you a video of whelping and let the kids watch that, because that is the only way you are going to experience whelping and "break even". I feel so sorry for your little dog....she deserves better, and she has no say in what is about to be done to her.....so sad........This is EXACTLY why I sell spay/neuter contract ONLY! None of my babies will EVER be subjected to such lunacy.

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Everything that needs to be said to this OP has been.

At least he checked into cost before doing this...

OP, that price is a bit high (for just a csection without hospitalization and such) but it is easily thousands. Some yorkies need them and some don't. Plan that they will just in case. Not even one litter should be had without testing the parents for problems they can pass on. That's hundreds to thousands right there.

Then you'll have to decide if she is a good example of the breed. If not, do you really want to breed? Why? If she dies (it happens) then the experience won't be so fun anymore... And if they have to be fed every couple hours throughout the night for weeks, who has to do that?

I think it's great that you are looking into this before doing it. Sounds like she should be spayed.