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brezofleur

01-17-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 3794410)

So were you there? Was your Dad there? Do you have the pictures to prove the seat was open? . If they were moving from Hotel to Hotel were their suitcases in the trunk with the dogs in case someone wanted to steal their luggage? So the couple and the police officer heard no sirens, no commotion in the restaurant as the fire truck arrived, no loud screeching noise as they pried the trunk open. And during the whole lunch they never went out to check on their investment and make sure the dogs did not need air, water, to pee etc. Just wondering.

This. I was wondering the same thing. :rolleyes:

sbgooljar

01-17-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 3794410)

Hmmm are you Christy the one who's Dad works for the city that was posting in defense of the couple on Dogster. Here is the quote from the Dogster site. You saw that someone from YT posted so you decided to join YT to post your side, I mean their side, since you were not there
Christy posted a comment on January 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
They didnt just drive from Pottsboro to Dallas for a birthday lunch.
They were in Dallas all weekend with the dogs. Read all the reports:
They checked out of their hotel saturday mid morning and was on their
way to the next hotel and stop for a quick bite to eat meeting
friends, one of which was a police officer himself. He saw the seat
down and the DPD officers that were there on the scene know this! They
know the fire dept messed up- it was not the police that did this.
Read ALL the articles- it was the fire dept. But still, all in all the
DPD continued to make it worse. The Shipmans were on their way to
their next hotel thus having the dogs with them still spending their
money in our city. I dont see anything wrong with what they did on a
55 degree cloudy day. Ask the parking lot attendant when they left the
lot. You know he remembers that girls tons of blonde curls.
Furthermore the city is making the case for the Shipmans by claiming
the dogs were locked in the trunk, when in fact they were not.
REGARDLESS, The fact the city is claiming they were in the truck is
proving they could have and should have broken a window out to
“rescue” the dogs much faster and safer. Since they say the dogs were
locked in the trunk then their full of u know what for saying they
couldnt break a window for fear the glass would or could hurt the
dogs. Mmmmmm waaaaait a minute Mr Fireman YOU said the dogs were in
the trunk so how is it that they could get hurt with glass being broke
IF they werent in the car? Proves their lying trying to cover their
butts! They didn’t see the dogs is what the witnesses and the DFD are
saying…. Their Yorkies are small- how do they know they werent under
the seats? Then as if everything they did wasnt stupid enough they
continued to use 2 police cars and 4 officers to guard the car they
destroyed for over another hour and a half when the couple left the
parking lot “because there were unsecure valuables in the car” But yet
couldnt wait for them in the very beginning for a few? OR do some real
police work to find them? Besides, How is it that when they (shipmans)
left the dogs in their car for 20-30 minutes it was illegal and Cruel
but the city takes them and puts them in their car for an hour and a
half while they interrogate the man and its not illegal or cruel!!!
Theyre going to burn up in the sonata but not in their car? What in
the world! This is all just so ridiculous. Texas does not have a law
against leaving pets in your car nor does the city of dallas have an
ordnance against it. The states animal cruelty law says severe and
extreme hot and humid temps or severe extreme or freezing temps or
emanate danger. 55 degree cloudy day are none of these. SO since the
DFD destroyed this car rescuing these dogs since DFD believed they
were in such severe and emanate danger then DFD took both dogs to be
seen by a vet right away to be checked out, right? Just to make sure
they were ok since they were in such danger right??? RIGHT? I want to
read that vet examination of them? Wait, you mean they didnt do that?
They just took these poor abused dogs put them in their car for an
hour and a half then drove them to the shelter and just threw them in
cages??? WHAT????!!!!! Come on people!!! Are you serious? Then give
them back the very next day with no questions asked! PLEASE DALLAS!
Pay these people what their estimate says its going to cost to fix
before they get an attorney sue for more AND WIN!!! Any scenario the
city tries to spin it the Shipmans are going to win. They have a
police officer as a witness and their vet is backing them 100%!

So were you there? Was your Dad there? Do you have the pictures to prove the seat was open? . If they were moving from Hotel to Hotel were their suitcases in the trunk with the dogs in case someone wanted to steal their luggage? So the couple and the police officer heard no sirens, no commotion in the restaurant as the fire truck arrived, no loud screeching noise as they pried the trunk open. And during the whole lunch they never went out to check on their investment and make sure the dogs did not need air, water, to pee etc. Just wondering.

Thank you Buster Brown for catching that! Incredible isn't it how this poster knows intimate details of the case -- maybe he/she is a Shipman!!!!!

Buster Brown

01-17-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CWilds (Post 3794087)

The fact they paid so much for them proves how much they love them. Sadly we all know this is not true. How much someone pays for a dog has no bearing on how well the dog is treated
Their dogs are more privileged than most kids in my classroom. My sympathies for the kids in your classroom.
My dad works for the city and knows all the details and REAL facts here people!

Regardless the owners showed a poor lack of judgement on their part. If they considered the dogs to be so valuable and worried that they might be stolen then why did they not check on them during the lunch?

BabyGirl Rosie

01-17-2012 05:26 PM

Wow, you have posted this same post everywhere there is any story about the Shipmans. And it is only because your dad works for the city? And yet you are saying that the city is in the wrong? I thought firemen and police officers were part of the city. Plus you know every detail involved. Is that part of the privacy laws? Is dad is giving out all these details? Maybe the Shipmans should sue the city for releasing all the specifics on their situation. Because all of this information hasn't been in the other stories. Only what you have posted. And you are coming on here defending this situation to a group of animal lovers? Really? Did you think we are all going to just say, oh I see then it was fine to lock their dogs in the trunk? I am sorry but I think we will be a pretty hard group to convince.

Taryn0405

01-17-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3794570)

:bravo:

Jeepmom

01-17-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3794572)

:bravo:

:thumbup::thumbup:

Jeepmom

01-17-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3794570)

:thumbup:

Buster Brown

01-17-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3794570)

:thumbup:

teacup0819

01-17-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3794570)

:goodpost:

MacsMomma

01-17-2012 06:02 PM

wow. this makes me sick! I cant imagine why ppl abuse animals- these ppl need to be fined and go to jail this is animal cruelty. If you knew you are going out to eat why the heck would you bring your two dogs?! that makes no sense to me. Thank god it wasnt a sunny hot day in Dallas.

Bitsy

01-17-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3794352)

Mmmm chocolate and peanut butter candy bar...

Anywho, funny story, I live in Michigan and our summers get no where near as hot as Texas. But, I was walking into a Linens and Things when I saw a little terrier in a car with the windows cracked about...eh maybe 6 inches. The car was black, and scalding to the touch, so I grabbed a rock, aimed at the window and was about to throw when the owner came running out. We had a screaming match in the parking lot. Police were called and the store pressed charges, the dogs had been locked in there for over and hour on a 94 degree day.

I guess my point is, I don't care what state you're in, I don't care how hot it is. In fact, I don't care how long you plan on be out of the car whether it's 5 or 15 minutes. No living creature, animal or human should be left so any amount of time in a car. It's inhumane and mean. If you can't have the dogs
there, then don't go. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by teacup0819 (Post 3794374)

My dh is in the FDNY and I asked him what they would do. They would either pry the trunk open to rescue the dogs or pry the side door open and try and gain entry through the rear seats.

Good job firefighters!! Even with all the "facts".....no animal should be left inside a car with all the windows shut while the owner is busy somewhere.

and I don't believe that the seats were left down .... why put the dogs in the trunk just to leave the seats down ... anyone could see them then...so their
argument of safety would not fit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gidget529 (Post 3794401)

Sounds like you have a personal investment in the side of the story you are expressing. How do you know the Shipmans' vet?

:yeahthat:

On a side note: Did the defender actually reference the wife's blonde curls??? What the heck does that have to do with anything??? :confused: :rolleyes:

Buster Brown

01-17-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitsy (Post 3794668)

:yeahthat:

On a side note: Did the defender actually reference the wife's blonde curls??? What the heck does that have to do with anything??? :confused: :rolleyes:

LOL I loved that quote too "Ask the parking lot attendant when they left the
lot. You know he remembers that girls tons of blonde curls."

Bitsy

01-17-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3794570)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 3794482)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 3794410)

Agree, agree, agree! My red flag alarm is going off big time.

Whatever...anyone who would do this or vehemently defend someone else doing it is so far away from my way of thinking that I don't even know what to
say to them.

Hope the city nails them with fines and charges. They deserve it. All the fire
fighters deserve is a huge pat on the back!

Bitsy

01-17-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 3794679)

LOL I loved that quote too "Ask the parking lot attendant when they left the
lot. You know he remembers that girls tons of blonde curls."

I know! I was like: ????? :questione

Makes you think the person writing it is really proud of their tons of blonde curls. Who else would even say something so bizarre?

teacup0819

01-17-2012 06:40 PM

What character is that who says "who's that tripping over my bridge" ....... hmmmmmm.

Oh yeah, I remember now :rolleyes:

BabyGirl Rosie

01-17-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teacup0819 (Post 3794717)

What character is that who says "who's that tripping over my bridge" ....... hmmmmmm.

Oh yeah, I remember now :rolleyes:

I know! I know!! :D

lovespandp

01-17-2012 07:13 PM

Dogs locked in trunks , kids locked in trunks- its no big deal!

CouversMom

01-17-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teacup0819 (Post 3794717)

What character is that who says "who's that tripping over my bridge" ....... hmmmmmm.

Oh yeah, I remember now :rolleyes:

:thumbup::thumbup:

sbgooljar

01-17-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3794764)

Dogs locked in trunks , kids locked in trunks- its no big deal!

Next it'll be parents and grandparents!

Taryn0405

01-17-2012 07:55 PM

Or husbands!:rolleyes:

chachi

01-17-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3794833)

Or husbands!:rolleyes:

Or Mother in laws- heck I might enjoy that lol

I think the defending poster at least knows the shipmans by the details

Taryn0405

01-17-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3794842)

Or Mother in laws- heck I might enjoy that lol

I think the defending poster at least knows the shipmans by the details

Oooo I love your thinking!

My lil friend

01-17-2012 08:03 PM

I saw this on our local news and the story that was told was that the back seat was "cracked" so the dogs could get air. If it was "cracked" open abit then there is NO way that the dogs would of had access to the backseat,the owners even admitted,on camera, that they didn't want the dogs seen,they didnt want them stolen.
Just who spends the weekend in a hotel and then moves to another hotel in the same city? Smells like fish,atleast 3 days old. Also,just because you spend alot on the price of a dog,does NOT mean that you REALLY care about them,you just dont want to have to replace them,there is a large financial investment there. If they were truely on their way to another hotel (I have doubts) they should of taken the dogs there and then gone to lunch. That would of showed that they truely cared about the well being of these animals. As for the comments made from the poster that is obviously school age (mentioned classes),I dont think that I personally would be posting direct quots of what my father said because "he works for the city of Dallas and knows the facts". Do you value the good stuff that his job provides? This is a free open forum and ANY BODY can read it,including bosses and teams of lawyers.
The fire dept couldnt see that the back seat was moved for the dogs,as far as they knew the dogs were locked in the trunk,oh wait they really were because they didnt have access to the back seat to see out or be seen by people passing by.

slthoeny

01-17-2012 09:05 PM

Way off topic but this reminds me of a joke. It is 10 reasons dogs are better than wives. I don't remember all of them but one of the reasons was:
Lock your dog and wife in the trunk for an hour, and see which one is happy to see you when you open the trunk. Sorry it is OT but it is late and my brain is rambling.

chachi

01-17-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slthoeny (Post 3794942)

LOL! I love the humor some of these threads have been so depressing lately its nice to lighten it up a bit

zedhead

01-18-2012 12:28 AM

THe city was wrong to damage property like that.
They could have gone about it in a couple of different ways. Everyone is contactable with a cell these days.

It's not like they left the dogs in a 100 degree car for 8 hrs. I don't think this is a case of animal cruelty. Stupidity, yes.

Just sayin

Tina21

01-18-2012 01:05 AM

I cant believe that they would try to get sympathy for the damage to the car. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! Chloe has NEVER been left in a car period. Let alone the TRUNK!!!! I cant say what I really think here. Then to have these IDIOTS try to imply that the dogs are treated like family and that they were protecting them from being stolen. Really?! Family?! Would you lock your child in the trunk to "protect" them?!!? Treated like family my a**!!!!

gracielove

01-18-2012 01:10 AM

If the dogs had access to the main part of the car they certainly would have been plainly seen by the people who wanted to rescue them. If they broke the window or opened it some other way the electronic alarm would have gone off and locked the trunk. We had that happen not too long ago when a friend locked his keys in the trunk of his car while traveling. He called the police who came and opened the car for him but it set the alarm off and the locks locked up again including the trunk.

I suppose they could have waited a bit longer to see if the owners would come out to the car. It seems strange that these people had so much money but couldn't afford some carriers to put these dogs so they could travel safely in the car. A dog should never be allowed to roam freely in a car while it is moving. It seems a carrier would be a better idea than locking them in a dark trunk to keep them from unlocking the door.

zedhead

01-18-2012 01:56 AM

Also, there are a lot of ways to have 'Lunch with friends' and not have to leave your pets.

Getting a sammich to go, and a picnic comes to mind.

mky	01-18-2012 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CWilds (Post 3794087)

Of course everyone is going to side with the fact they're abusers. Y'all think they were locked in the trunk- your reading articles posted with half truths in them. The seats were folded down giving them access to the back of the car and the trunk area and they were blocked from the front of the car. There people did nothing wrong. For god sakes look at the pictures of those two dogs and the news footage of how they interact with their owners. The fact they paid so much for them proves how much they love them. Their dogs are more privileged than most kids in my classroom. My dad works for the city and knows all the details and REAL facts here people!

:mad:

How much they paid or didn't pay for their dogs has nothing to do with how much they love or don't love their dog.

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