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Bitsy 01-03-2012 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3776981)
This is pointless and I would answer your question if I thought it would do any good but your rude and argumentative. Checking out of this thread............... ugh
I do agree it is pointless....to a point (no pun intended. ;) ) At least when others read this thread they are more educated on how puppy millers use brokers to sell their puppies.

But yeah, we won't ever change everyone's opinions about puppy millers or brokers. So sad.

SophieandZiggy 01-03-2012 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3776981)
This is pointless and I would answer your question if I thought it would do any good but your rude and argumentative. Checking out of this thread............... ugh
totally agree! ;)

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3776975)
In adopting a human infant would you expect it to jump into your lap within minutes of searching?
Actually, it is much easier to find children that are up for adoption. Within minutes, I can find many children in my area. The same cannot be said for puppies.

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3776975)
wouldn't you expect to have to put in some time and effort?
Of course. I'd rather use the power of the Internet to make sure that time and effort was being spent well. Why would I want to personally travel and seek out a few breeders when I could research hundreds from the Internet?

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3776975)
They knew to look for AKC dogs, get a copy of the health guarantee, and even went so far as to ask for references of current owners of the breeders pups and also got vet references.
There is no reason breeders could not provide information like this online. A few pages up in this thread, you'll find a few links to websites that do have a lot of information about the breeders. While I know it's not possible to expect that all breeders will do this, it would be a great resource to have a directory that linked to websites of reputable breeders in the US.


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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3776975)
I'm assuming you're an adult....so if my then 18 and 20 year old kids could do the research and put the effort into finding a quality puppy from a reputable breeder, you should be capable of doing so to.
Or maybe you have really smart kids :)

Really though, it's not that anyone cannot go out and do this research. It's just that it doesn't make sense to make it such a tough task. Why was the phone invented? Who do we travel in cars? I am certainly capable of writing letters by hand and traveling by foot.

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitsy (Post 3776977)
if someone comes to this site and searches for "Greenfield Puppies" this thread will come up
I doubt it. Nobody here knows anything about that website. There are just a bunch of assumptions here. I prefer cold, hard facts.

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3776979)
You have been very rude to two people sheesh!
That was not my intention. That goes both ways though. I'm all for treating people the way they treat me. An eye for an eye... I know... so wrong...

gemy 01-03-2012 09:05 PM
So what's it all about "alfie" oops Yorkie Man
 
I am lost as to what it is you truly need/want from this thread. If you want to discuss the merits of shopping on line and how to create a website that can showcase reputable breeders and their pups; perhaps start a new thread.

If you want help in finding a puppy for yourself; then you have been given lots of very good directions and advise. It is up to you to take what you have received in this regard, because truly from what I have read, and what I know, there is nothing else, nowhere else I can suggest you go to start your search for your pup, that has not already been said.

Good luck in your search for your pup

Bitsy 01-03-2012 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10 (Post 3776997)
I doubt it. Nobody here knows anything about that website. There are just a bunch of assumptions here. I prefer cold, hard facts.
And just what are the "cold hard facts"? Didn't you just find that site today? How would you know so much about them? I know you said you called them and they said they trust their photographers to inspect the breeders facilities...is that right? Seriously?

Never did answer my question about being affiliated with them, did you?

givemecouture 01-03-2012 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SophieandZiggy (Post 3776967)
Good things come to those who wait. Sometimes if you really want something, you have to work for it. :)
This is very true, I searched for my baby all of 2011 and just found him yesterday due to Yorkietalk :).

I don't know, I kinda see where he is coming from, I was wishing that same thing the whole time I'm searching but it never really bothered me. When something is that important to you, I.e. Not buying from a puppy mill or BYB, and finding exactly the dog you want, you will spend the time and energy to seek out, learn about, contact, and wait for that perfect breeder and perfect dog match.

It took a year and I am so glad I waited because now I am getting the dog that called to my heart from a wonderful breeder to boot!

I will say he is no where near my state and I am paying extra for that, but it is all worth it to me. I guess it makes sense that some things are more important to some than others but I'm glad I did it this way. A dog is seriosly part of the family...

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3777005)
I am lost as to what it is you truly need/want from this thread.
The discussion in this thread revolves around the idea of being able to easily find reputable breeders online. It also discusses a few websites that sell puppies that are apparently from reputable breeders -- and the opinions of what people here at YT think about those websites.

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3777005)
If you want to discuss the merits of shopping on line and how to create a website that can showcase reputable breeders and their pups; perhaps start a new thread.
I am not interested in creating websites -- I do that for a living. I'd much prefer that we try to uncover good resources for finding information about reputable breeders online.

givemecouture 01-03-2012 09:11 PM
Also to solve your actual problem, why don't you creat a breeder blog or referral list. You said yourself this searching thing is tedious and takes up time, and I have to say I do agree with you, and I am sure other educated folks who are trying to buy from good breeders agree.

Heck, you might have a great business idea on your hands. I am down to help :)

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitsy (Post 3777007)
How would you know so much about them?
Hmm... that's why I'm here. I guess you missed that post too :)

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Originally Posted by Bitsy (Post 3777007)
Never did answer my question about being affiliated with them, did you?
Here we go again...

KazzyK810 01-03-2012 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10 (Post 3776991)
Of course. I'd rather use the power of the Internet to make sure that time and effort was being spent well. Why would I want to personally travel and seek out a few breeders when I could research hundreds from the Internet?
Because nothing compares to actually seeing the quality of the breeding stock in person. How a dog looks in a photo and how it looks in person can often be quite different. You get to see the actual build of the dogs, the way they move, their personality & temperament, you can actually put your hands on them and feel the structure under the coat and see the colour of the coat without "artistic" enhancements of photography than can often make a coat seem richer in colour than it actually is.

Bitsy 01-03-2012 09:15 PM
Why do you refuse to just answer the question then? If you are not affiliated with them, then just say so.

It's interesting alright...

YorkieMan10 01-03-2012 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by givemecouture (Post 3777013)
Also to solve your actual problem, why don't you creat a breeder blog or referral list.
It seems there are short lists like this scattered in various corners of the Internet. What would be ideal is a resource that not only listed reputable breeders, but also showed the puppies they currently have and included a bio, "About Me" page or something to that effect.

Wouldn't it have been great to find your puppy after one month? There's nobody that would argue that taking an entire year was smarter. That's no fault of yours though. You had no choice because it's just that tought to find reputable breeders.

lillymae 01-03-2012 09:17 PM
YorkieMan10, I have a question for you. Would you purchase a used vehicle from a dealer that you knew wasn't reputable ? I'm betting not. Why ? because you would most likely be purchasing a peace of junk for a whole lotta money. You would try your best to go to someone who you had at least heard was reputable. Buying a puppy is a bit the same a buying a car, if you check around & do your research the end result will make you a happy buyer.
If you don't have the time or desire to find the soundest pup that you can then when your pup gets sick because you purchased from a mill or byb , will you have the time or desire to save it's life ?


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