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Nancy1999 12-03-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SophieandZiggy (Post 3747468)
Sophie was very easy to housebreak. My males were harder but it may have been becuase of the marking and not neutering early enough.

Thanks for the advice!

I am defintiely thinking a male would be better too.

Will the new male be around Ziggy? If you already have a male and female, I guess it doesn't matter which sex you get. So much depends on their personalities and the personality of the puppy.

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3747482)
It's a territorial thing and Ziggy no longer has the need to mark his territory. However, adding another dog to the mix, male or female can change the dynamics. While marking is guided by the hormone testosterone, and the testes makes the bulk of testosterone, the adrenal glands in males and females make testosterone also. I know a few people with 4 males and 1 female, and the female is the only one that marks.

Thanks for the helpful info. maybe I should not get another one since I don't know how Ziggy and Sophie are going to react. I really don't want the marking again.

i need to find a way to get over Rusty and a new dog is probably not the answer. Ruty's little face looked just like a purebred Yorkie. missing him has got me wanting that again. :(

Nancy1999 12-03-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SophieandZiggy (Post 3747491)
Thanks for the helpful info. maybe I should not get another one since I don't know how Ziggy and Sophie are going to react. I really don't want the marking again.

i need to find a way to get over Rusty and a new dog is probably not the answer. Ruty's little face looked just like a purebred Yorkie. missing him has got me wanting that again. :(

I can understand how you feel, I'm not sure you ever get over it, but I guess a new puppy can help many. Honestly, that's one of the reasons I wanted a purebred, I thought it would be easier to get a dog that reminds me of my lost dog, not sure if this is true though. Marking is one of those things that drive some people nuts, and others aren't that bothered by it. I take my boys on walks every day, to help get the marking out of their system, I think they have less of a need to mark, if they can do it outside. Anyway, sending prayers that you can make a good decision, and your heart heals soon.

gemy 12-03-2011 11:39 AM

I know that it is a common belief that neutering early helps to prevent the males from marking, but research is not bearing out that belief. Nor does it help with aggression.

I have posted links before to research that seems to point in this direction.

Some females also mark as well.

The only way and even that is not 100% guaranteed is to train your dog not to mark in the house, just like you train them not to urinate.

The only time I have a problem with Razz inside, is if my female is in heat. Then I watch him like a hawk, and if I can't he is either crated, or wears a belly band. My other male does not mark in the house, even with Zoey in heat. Both are un-neuteured males.

I agree with Nancy, regular exercise and walking outside does allow for the dogs to happily mark every tree if they so desire. Plus exercising is such a boon to their physical, mental, and emotional health.

There is a saying which I've found to be true: " A tired pup is a good pup". If they have had lots of physical and mental stimulation, they usually relax or shall I say poop out happily at home for the evening.

My Razz although only 6.5 lbs can easily keep up with my BRT's who are about 80 and 120 lbs respectively. We hike for hours particularly in the summer. The only thing I need to do differently for Razz, is put warm winter wear on him for the cold months. And even in summer he can't swim for as long as our double coated Blackies who adore keeping cool in the water even if the outside temp is only 65 degrees. But I just make him come out of the water and warm up in the hot sun, and in about 20 to 30 minutes he is good to go again.

Harrysmum 12-03-2011 12:28 PM

Just throwing my opinion in!!! :D

Of every dog I've ever had - male and female - Harry has been the easiest to house train. Extreme diligence was the key, and he was clean within a couple of weeks. Good luck with your decision! :) Sally + Harry x

TeddyGrahams 12-03-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SophieandZiggy (Post 3747491)
Thanks for the helpful info. maybe I should not get another one since I don't know how Ziggy and Sophie are going to react. I really don't want the marking again.

i need to find a way to get over Rusty and a new dog is probably not the answer. Ruty's little face looked just like a purebred Yorkie. missing him has got me wanting that again. :(

Yea I agree with you, maybe it's best to wait until you know you're ready and not just want another. My MIL got two dogs to replace the emptiness she felt when her dog passed away but it built a lot of resentment because she missed the dog that died. Like she would be so excited to come home and see her dog, but it was the other dogs and at one point she didn't even want to touch them. She just missed her other dog, time has since passed and she loves her two dogs but had she not stuck it through it could have ended with more heartbreak.

So just make sure you're ready. This site is great for support, we're here if you need to talk :)

but to address the subject, my male has been very easy to housetrain. I think it really just depends on the dog and the training it receives.

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3747495)
I can understand how you feel, I'm not sure you ever get over it, but I guess a new puppy can help many. Honestly, that's one of the reasons I wanted a purebred, I thought it would be easier to get a dog that reminds me of my lost dog, not sure if this is true though. Marking is one of those things that drive some people nuts, and others aren't that bothered by it. I take my boys on walks every day, to help get the marking out of their system, I think they have less of a need to mark, if they can do it outside. Anyway, sending prayers that you can make a good decision, and your heart heals soon.

Walking often did help with our marking problem. I didn't mind it as much as my husband. I cleaned up as soon as I saw it happen. I will probably wait and see if time heals the wound before I rush in to another pup.

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 3747553)
Yea I agree with you, maybe it's best to wait until you know you're ready and not just want another. My MIL got two dogs to replace the emptiness she felt when her dog passed away but it built a lot of resentment because she missed the dog that died. Like she would be so excited to come home and see her dog, but it was the other dogs and at one point she didn't even want to touch them. She just missed her other dog, time has since passed and she loves her two dogs but had she not stuck it through it could have ended with more heartbreak.

So just make sure you're ready. This site is great for support, we're here if you need to talk :)

but to address the subject, my male has been very easy to housetrain. I think it really just depends on the dog and the training it receives.

You are so right and this is the best place for comfort, support and advice.:)

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 04:51 PM

Thanks everyone for the great info and advice! I'm going to give it some more time. I think if I do ever get another one, it will be a little purebred Yorkie boy.

While I'm going thru this healing process, I'm going to continue spoiling Ziggy and sophie and loving them, as well as
Leo and Ella ( my Labs) and my family & friends, like there's no tomorrow!

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 06:33 PM

I filed a complaint with the Attorney Generals office against the emergency vet clinic that I took Rusty to the day he died. I won my case! All I asked for was to get my money back because of the way I was yelled at and blamed for Rusty's condition and sent out the door to my vet with no treatment. My vet is on the board there and spoke up for me, thank goodness. I could have sued them for all the bills and loss of Rusty but I didn't have the energy. I just got my check in the mail tonight! I know it won't bring Rusty back but I feel like I got some justice for him! I hope no one ever gets treated like I did at that clinic again!

Nancy1999 12-03-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SophieandZiggy (Post 3747889)
I filed a complaint with the Attorney Generals office against the emergency vet clinic that I took Rusty to the day he died. I won my case! All I asked for was to get my money back because of the way I was yelled at and blamed for Rusty's condition and sent out the door to my vet with no treatment. My vet is on the board there and spoke up for me, thank goodness. I could have sued them for all the bills and loss of Rusty but I didn't have the energy. I just got my check in the mail tonight! I know it won't bring Rusty back but I feel like I got some justice for him! I hope no one ever gets treated like I did at that clinic again!

I'm so glad you stood up for you rights, too many people complain, but don't follow through and bussiness don't change if it has no impact on them. I believe you have helped others by doing this. So glad your vet spoke up for you, that's great!

SophieandZiggy 12-03-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3747943)
I'm so glad you stood up for you rights, too many people complain, but don't follow through and bussiness don't change if it has no impact on them. I believe you have helped others by doing this. So glad your vet spoke up for you, that's great!

Thank you! It was hard to relive the horrible experience but I felt like it was the right thing to do. It took me weeks after losing Rusty to be able to sit down and write it all out, but it was well worth it.

concretegurl 12-03-2011 10:57 PM

No, no they are not.

I beleive they are easier because they crave attention, praise, pleasing you more than females-but I'm a dog gender racists.:p

Kathynwolf 12-03-2011 11:24 PM

My Brodo was spoof easy to potty train. He always let's me know when he needs to go. Sissy on the other hand, goes when and where she happens to be. I take her out when I take Brodo though so we don't have many mishaps.

And for the record, Brodo taught Sissy all the wonderful male things like marking ( thankfully he only marks outside) and of course humping. So Sissy marks her territory and tries to hump Brodo. Now if he could just teach her to tell me when she has to potty, and come to me when I call her.....

SophieandZiggy 12-12-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3748117)
No, no they are not.

I beleive they are easier because they crave attention, praise, pleasing you more than females-but I'm a dog gender racists.:p

How funny! I thought I only wanted males. I got Rusty first, then 6 days later I got Ziggy. Two and a half months after I got Ziggy, I went back for Sophie! My husband was ready to divorce me. :D

Now that Rusty's gone I'm wanting another male. :)


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