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chachi · 12-01-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by peachesmom1sc

my porscha comes from 6 & 8 pounds parents and she turned out a lil over 3 pounds

That can happen too somewhere in her lines were a smaller yorkie.

Evenflo09 · 12-01-2011, 10:33 AM

Mojo is about 8 1/2 lbs, 12 inches long and 12 inches tall. His ears sometimes stand on their own, but for the most part they flop over. I actually think he's cuter this way. His tail was never docked either, and for that, I'm happy! I'm one of those people who believe in leaving things where they should be,LOLOL. He's bigger than what the AKC says is standard and his black/blue run in with his tan in some places, but I think he's beautiful anyway. I never plan to show or breed him so I had him neutered. This breed was bigger at one time than it is now. People have selectively bred down in size because so many like the tiny ones, but a standard size yorkie ( again AKC standards ) says a yorkie can weigh up to 7 lbs. There will always be some that are over and under their standard. All we can do is just love our babies, and it's soooo NOT hard to love these intelligent, loving and playful little pals!

KazzyK810 · 12-01-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I don't think in all cases it is bad breeding because I have heard of good breeders occasionally having a bigger pup.

The problem with the term "good breeder" is the definition of it. How you would define a good breeder and how I would define a good breeder could be vastly different.

I'm have been looking for another puppy for the past couple of months and have been approached by breeders (even on here...) who believe themselves to be good breeders because they are AKC and offer a year health guarantee. Looking at their breeding stock, I would strongly disagree.

(and I'm not trying to be snarky or bitchy about this...my ZoE varies between 6.8 to 7.2 lbs depending on the time/day of the vet visit, and she's a week shy of a year old, so may still grow some and end up well over the 7lbs mark.)

manina · 12-01-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Yorkies used to be bigger

True !!!! I Agree !!!!! User to be !!
I have my on a No Treat diet , Until she is a yorkie again 7lbs or under Lol !!!!

bark@ulater!!!!!
manina,miley,max,reirei,rudy

Nancy1999 · 12-01-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810

The problem with the term "good breeder" is the definition of it. How you would define a good breeder and how I would define a good breeder could be vastly different.

I'm have been looking for another puppy for the past couple of months and have been approached by breeders (even on here...) who believe themselves to be good breeders because they are AKC and offer a year health guarantee. Looking at their breeding stock, I would strongly disagree.

(and I'm not trying to be snarky or bitchy about this...my ZoE varies between 6.8 to 7.2 lbs depending on the time/day of the vet visit, and she's a week shy of a year old, so may still grow some and end up well over the 7lbs mark.)

This is so true, and a person could be a wonderful person and very nice, but still be a lousy breeder!

Donnainohio63 · 12-01-2011, 01:20 PM

My Sadie weighs 7lbs, Scooter weighs 8 but their baby Thor is now a whopping 11 pounds and still growing. When I tell people that Thor is Sadie's baby they look at me like there is no way. He is my gentle Giant.

peachesmom1sc · 12-01-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by peachesmom1sc

my porscha comes from 6 & 8 pounds parents and she turned out a lil over 3 pounds

My lil one was 2 in 8 - 16 - 11

lucky999 · 12-01-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokey2011

Smokey is 7 months old today and weighs 6.6 lbs. I've met a number of purebred Yorkies who are in the 13+ lbs range and one mother told me that her big boy's parents were 6 and 7 lbs respectively. If the breed standard is 7 lbs, why is there so much variation in size?.. and what can I expect Smokey to look like as an adult?

Not that I really care, cuz we love him crazy awesome, but I am curious.

BTW, his tail was never docked and his ears dont stand up.. To us, he is perfectly imperfect.

he could be a silky terrier...they weigh about 10 lbs.But who cares, right?!!!Lucky999

gracielove · 12-01-2011, 03:28 PM

It's true. The past generations of Yorkies were 15 to 20 pound dogs and some bigger than that. Even though breeders have been breeding smaller dogs they still carry the genes to produce the bigger dog. It's just how genetics work.

111lily222 · 12-01-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810

The problem with the term "good breeder" is the definition of it. How you would define a good breeder and how I would define a good breeder could be vastly different.

I'm have been looking for another puppy for the past couple of months and have been approached by breeders (even on here...) who believe themselves to be good breeders because they are AKC and offer a year health guarantee. Looking at their breeding stock, I would strongly disagree.

(and I'm not trying to be snarky or bitchy about this...my ZoE varies between 6.8 to 7.2 lbs depending on the time/day of the vet visit, and she's a week shy of a year old, so may still grow some and end up well over the 7lbs mark.)

Totally agree

111lily222 · 12-01-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

This is so true, and a person could be a wonderful person and very nice, but still be a lousy breeder!

Very true.

111lily222 · 12-01-2011, 03:46 PM

I've noticed that a lot of breeders either don't care/don't know to research their lines wayyyyy back. Maybe some can't because somewhere down the line didn't keep record and they got them from a less knowledgeable breeder. A lot of YTCA breeders that show do research and know their lines back and forth from years and years of generations (at least the one's I've known). They don't get nearly as many yorkies that are over the standard of 7 lbs even in dogs that are not shown/ pet quality because of some other minor fault but they may once in a blue moon. Then again it's all about who you know. So even if a so called reputable breeder not in the "show arena" wanted to get a perfect show yorkie to breed on full registration chances are they won't be able to get one. And again YTCA breeders usually stick within YTCA and same with show breeders in terms of giving out breeding rights.

gracielove · 12-01-2011, 05:24 PM

I have family members that show and occasionally breed Golden Retrievers. I have been to shows with them and they have directed us to breeders when we were looking for a Sheltie for our son years ago. I have noticed that some dog breeders will sell breeding rights with very little regard to the quality of the dog. It seems to be a matter of money more than quality. I'm not saying it is true of everyone but there are enough to make a buyer beware. There are all kinds out there in every walk of life.

A person who is really trying to better a breed not only knows the pedigree (which is available from the AKC for any registered dog) but they have a detailed knowledge of genetics. It is complicated stuff and even the best laid plans do not always work the way planned. But a good breeding program is based on an in depth genetically sound plan-----not putting two nice looking dogs together.

Lovetodream88 · 12-01-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky999

he could be a silky terrier...they weigh about 10 lbs.But who cares, right?!!!Lucky999

Just because a yorkie is bigger does not make it a silky. There are bigger yorkies.

FoxxysMom · 12-01-2011, 05:34 PM

On my, that face!!! Too cute

12-01-2011, 01:20 PM	#21
Donnainohio63 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lorain Ohio Posts: 1,882	My Sadie weighs 7lbs, Scooter weighs 8 but their baby Thor is now a whopping 11 pounds and still growing. When I tell people that Thor is Sadie's baby they look at me like there is no way. He is my gentle Giant. __________________ http://thelittleyorkierescue.weebly.com/

12-01-2011, 03:46 PM	#27
111lily222 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Macomb, MI Posts: 2,112	I've noticed that a lot of breeders either don't care/don't know to research their lines wayyyyy back. Maybe some can't because somewhere down the line didn't keep record and they got them from a less knowledgeable breeder. A lot of YTCA breeders that show do research and know their lines back and forth from years and years of generations (at least the one's I've known). They don't get nearly as many yorkies that are over the standard of 7 lbs even in dogs that are not shown/ pet quality because of some other minor fault but they may once in a blue moon. Then again it's all about who you know. So even if a so called reputable breeder not in the "show arena" wanted to get a perfect show yorkie to breed on full registration chances are they won't be able to get one. And again YTCA breeders usually stick within YTCA and same with show breeders in terms of giving out breeding rights. __________________ Dee and Lil' Louie RIP Lil' Brody boy 6.7.99 - 1.3.10

12-01-2011, 05:34 PM	#30
FoxxysMom YT Addict Join Date: May 2011 Location: Gautier, MS USA Posts: 378	On my, that face!!! Too cute __________________ Mom to Shanti, Choppa & Maxximus.

12-01-2011, 10:33 AM	#17
Evenflo09 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: JONES,AL U.S. Posts: 113	Mojo is about 8 1/2 lbs, 12 inches long and 12 inches tall. His ears sometimes stand on their own, but for the most part they flop over. I actually think he's cuter this way. His tail was never docked either, and for that, I'm happy! I'm one of those people who believe in leaving things where they should be,LOLOL. He's bigger than what the AKC says is standard and his black/blue run in with his tan in some places, but I think he's beautiful anyway. I never plan to show or breed him so I had him neutered. This breed was bigger at one time than it is now. People have selectively bred down in size because so many like the tiny ones, but a standard size yorkie ( again AKC standards ) says a yorkie can weigh up to 7 lbs. There will always be some that are over and under their standard. All we can do is just love our babies, and it's soooo NOT hard to love these intelligent, loving and playful little pals!

12-01-2011, 03:28 PM	#24
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	It's true. The past generations of Yorkies were 15 to 20 pound dogs and some bigger than that. Even though breeders have been breeding smaller dogs they still carry the genes to produce the bigger dog. It's just how genetics work.

12-01-2011, 05:24 PM	#28
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	I have family members that show and occasionally breed Golden Retrievers. I have been to shows with them and they have directed us to breeders when we were looking for a Sheltie for our son years ago. I have noticed that some dog breeders will sell breeding rights with very little regard to the quality of the dog. It seems to be a matter of money more than quality. I'm not saying it is true of everyone but there are enough to make a buyer beware. There are all kinds out there in every walk of life. A person who is really trying to better a breed not only knows the pedigree (which is available from the AKC for any registered dog) but they have a detailed knowledge of genetics. It is complicated stuff and even the best laid plans do not always work the way planned. But a good breeding program is based on an in depth genetically sound plan-----not putting two nice looking dogs together.