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Would Like Input re: Breeder Behavior I thought all of this was suspect, but wanted to get opinions of others on this forum...... We are searching for a reputable breeder for our first Yorkie Baby. Breeder was willing to let a puppy go to a new home at 9 weeks!! Don't think this is right...opinions?? From our research, we've found that 12 weeks should be the minimum, correct?? This same breeder (who *does* have a website...) also would not let us visit to look at the puppies. She told us that we could only visit if we were going to buy a puppy or put down a deposit. I don't think it sounds "on the up and up"...... Opinions on this?? Still searching for our first Yorkie Baby...... (sigh!) |
I bought my baby girl at 8 wks and she's been a bundle of joy. I have heard that you should wait until 10-12 wks but if I had to do it over I wouldve had her sooner if I could! The breeder seems pushy...not someone I'd want to do business with. I definitely would have to see the puppy live before committing to adopt. I would just go see the puppy and if I didn't feel comfortable I'd walk out. She cant force $ out of your pockets. Its important to see how the puppies are being cared for and just to see their personality and all. It was love at first sight for me with both my babies and its a wonderful experience! Good luck to you and hope you find your perfect baby as well! |
I don't blame you for suspecting this breeder. It is NOT right for this breeder to ask you for any money before seeing the puppy in person. I've been looking for a biewer and one of the breeder urged me to check out the puppy in person before making any commitment. I would run away from this breeder if I were. I know how frustrating it gets searching for that special baby! I'm in your boat right now. lol Also, 12 weeks is much better than 8 weeks because the puppies learn from their mommy and littermates social skills. I got Emma when she was 12 weeks old and she is more obedient than Carmel, whom I got when he was only 8 weeks. If I have to do it all over again, I'd stick to 12 weeks. It's also better for you to see the puppy's growth potentials (size, bite, personality, etc). |
Thanks, Monika and Jennxling, for your input. We *have* ruled out this breeder due to what I posted. I still wanted to get input from those of you more knowledgeable who are on this forum. I also found out that puppies are still nursing at 9 weeks....which is why the 12-week recommended time. Just to clarify..... This breeder did not ask for money upfront before seeing the puppy in person. She told us not to come to her home UNLESS we were going to buy or put down a deposit. She said she does not allow people to "just come and look." She was also very rude to me in several of her other emails when I asked questions and tried to get information. |
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If she doesn't want you to visit, run don't walk. Something is fishy with this one. |
I got my baby Bella at 9 weeks but the breeder lives maybe 5 mins from my house and she called or IM me every night about her. The not letting me see the breeding place is not a good sign...My breeder let me stop and see Bella anytime I wanted! |
I highly suggest looking for someone that won't let a baby go until 10-12 weeks old and 12 is better :) We used to breed and puppies they were usually weaned at around 8 weeks, but they are learning life long lessons by their mother at this age and other litter mates. A breeder should want what is best and make sure that you "click" with your baby and not just want the money!! |
A breeder's perspective-- I'm a breeder. Puppies are not nursing at 9 weeks, but that's still early for a Yorkie to leave home. I wouldn't write the breeder off a terrible for letting puppies go home at 9 weeks as there could be other information or circumstances that we haven't been told that would make this make more sense for her. Perhaps the breeder got the impression from the way you were speaking to her that you were just looking around and not a serious buyer. I pre-screen people to weed out the lookie-loos who will only come here for entertainment and puppy petting. Some are making the rounds trying to "buy the breeder" as so many like to suggest on this board. If I can't stand on my reputation by this time I never will. The days of sitting there for hours explaining the difference between a hobby and back yard breeder and the quality differences of the puppies from each, and of walking people through every inch of my house because they need a "tour of the facility" are over. I discovered that the more time someone takes up, the less serious they are. Someone who calls and asks for references gets my attention as a serious buyer. |
I agree with previous posters that this breeder does not sound trustworthy. I got Sparky at a little over 8 weeks. I didnt know at the time that where I got him from is not reputable...and boo me I didn't do the research. He is fine and healthy so I consider myself lucky. I would not adopt a yorkie younger than 12 weeks now that I know better. Also why would she not let you see the puppy? I will also run away from this breeder. |
I would not buy from someone who wouldn't let me see their facility and or their puppies without a commitment to buy, that is crazy and would indicate they are hiding something. |
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I'm sorry, Magicgenie. There is NO WAY that this breeder could not have known that we were serious buyers. We told her that AND we told her all about us and our home life. (BTW...we volunteered that info....she never asked....also suspect.) We did not want to come to her home because we are "lookie loos." I absolutely DO NOT agree with you that "the more time someone takes up, the less serious they are." How else does a person who is just learning about the breed and owning a puppy LEARN unless they ask many questions?? Sorry, but I don't agree with your tone or what you have said here. |
Thank you, rosey, for your insightful reply. You said it very well. |
You should read here a perfect example of someone who bought a dog sight unseen with only a reference: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ed-rescue.html |
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1. Vaccinations are not begun until 8-9 weeks of age. And given every 3 to 4 weeks. A minimum of 2 vaccinations should be given prior to leaving the breeders home. 2. Some pups are periodically nursing, although not full time. Usually full weaning is begun in earnest until approximately 8 weeks. So, therefore, a breeder won't allow a pup to go home until it is eating well on it's own. Reason is most pups go off food in an new enviornment for the first 24 hours. Hyperglycemia can occur. Changes in enviornment are stressful to new pups, they are better able to handle it if they are older. 3. Mother's do the majority of training between the ages of 8 and 12 weeks of age. A good breeder has much work cut out for them too. Socializing, potty training, getting them accustomed to grooming, etc. 4. 16 weeks of age for initial Bile Acid Testing (Liver Shunt) is the proper age. A good breeder will have completed this prior allowing a pup go to their forever home. The above are just touching on why a pup should be kept until a minimum of 12 weeks of age. |
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Here you go...another thread same person. You should read through the posts: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...o-breeder.html |
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Thanks, rosey. I have been reading those other posts. I truly believe that "the way a breeder deals with other areas of their life reflects their true values." Nuff said. Thanks, Nancy, for your reply. We are - hopefully - going to see a puppy this week that was born in March. I will ask about the bile acid testing. |
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Check on the contract. It should reflect what is good for the dog. A puppy replacement if something genetically, life threatening to your pup is not a good contract. So, many questions should be asked. Remember you buy your breeder first, then your dog.......The deal should not end when you walk out the door with your pup. The breeder should be available to you 7x24 for the rest of the dogs life. |
I wouldn't completely rule out a breeder who doesn't let you see the pups at an early age. Some are concerned about exposing their dogs to potential diseases carried in by the visitors. However, one that will bend that rule as long as you've put down a deposit is one I would run from. |
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A good breeder never takes a deposit until you've seen and picked your pup in person. |
Mardelin - The puppy we are going to look at will not be 6 months old until September. Therefore, she would not have had the 6-month 2nd bile test, correct?? Where can I find a list of questions to ask a potential breeder (one from whom we are considering purchasing a puppy)? Similarly, what should be included in a contract with a breeder? |
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Keep in mind when picking your breeder. A good breeder will be grilling you too. A good breeder is very concerned that their puppy goes to the best home possible. There are so many things to consider when picking your breeder. Don't be surprised if the breeder asks you a few questions before they allow the conversation to proceed. Oh! I for one prefer a phone call....e-mails are impersonal, a phone call proves to me that one will take the time to talk to me and a bit more serious in their quest Now there are breeder/exhibitors and those that breed. Not to say either is better, but a a good breeder should be breeding to improve the breed no matter whether they show or not. The should be only breeding dogs that are good representation of the breed, great health and temperment. Their # 1 concern is the dog. Any breeder that says it doesn't matter, they're only breeding for pet is one I'd be leary of. |
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