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McheleM 07-16-2011 01:59 PM
Dual registration
 
Is there any benefit to dual registering a dog?

Jennxling 07-16-2011 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3600373)
Is there any benefit to dual registering a dog?
I don't think so...I think AKC alone should be sufficient. Registries like APRI and CKC (continental one) will register any dogs as long as you pay.

McheleM 07-16-2011 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennxling (Post 3600378)
I don't think so...I think AKC alone should be sufficient. Registries like APRI and CKC (continental one) will register any dogs as long as you pay.
I figured,

I mailed your stuff today. You should get it in a few days. Can you let me know when you do? :)
I hope they fit. It was hard not having them physically here, but Emma is a little bigger than Allie so I just based it off that and then used the same sizing for Carmel and added a little.

Hope you love them!!! Hope Carmel and Emma do too! :cool:;)

Jennxling 07-16-2011 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3600777)
I figured,

I mailed your stuff today. You should get it in a few days. Can you let me know when you do? :)
I hope they fit. It was hard not having them physically here, but Emma is a little bigger than Allie so I just based it off that and then used the same sizing for Carmel and added a little.

Hope you love them!!! Hope Carmel and Emma do too! :cool:;)
Thanks!! I will definitely let you know and take lots of pics!! :D You're so sweet!! I am so excited!! Are you getting another boy?? Hehe Yorkies can become an addicting!! :p

McheleM 07-16-2011 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennxling (Post 3600779)
Thanks!! I will definitely let you know and take lots of pics!! :D You're so sweet!! I am so excited!! Are you getting another boy?? Hehe Yorkies can become an addicting!! :p
Yes. I am doing his deposit tomorrow! I am excited!!

capt_noonie 07-16-2011 10:40 PM
What registries are you asking about?

McheleM 07-16-2011 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3600784)
What registries are you asking about?
Mostly CKC -continental.
I have read crap about APRI and ACA.

Jennxling 07-16-2011 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3600782)
Yes. I am doing his deposit tomorrow! I am excited!!
Omg!!! Lucky you!! Pictures please!! :D:D How exciting! I'm still looking for my little girl :( I won't give up! :p

jennzy 07-17-2011 07:22 AM
I know that there is an internationally reconized clubs that u can do dual registrations to
So coco was born i korea and is registered with the kcf the korean version and on her pedigree it states i can also register to other international reconized clubs such as akc and ckc (the canadian not the other) t if ur dog is registered under akc i wouldnt worry

I want to register coco with ckc(canadian) because i want her chip to be registered with them as well

capt_noonie 07-17-2011 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3600796)
Mostly CKC -continental.
I have read crap about APRI and ACA.
Continental is not any better either. I believe they purposed chose a "C" word for the registry so people would mistake it for Canadian Kennel Club, which IS a reputable registry. What was the other registry, AKC? If it's in the US and it's not AKC don't even bother.

I didn't know before and I registered Uni with ACA. They don't even require witness or proof the dog is purebred, just your check. :rolleyes:

McheleM 07-17-2011 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3601711)
Continental is not any better either. I believe they purposed chose a "C" word for the registry so people would mistake it for Canadian Kennel Club, which IS a reputable registry. What was the other registry, AKC? If it's in the US and it's not AKC don't even bother.

I didn't know before and I registered Uni with ACA. They don't even require witness or proof the dog is purebred, just your check. :rolleyes:
Yes, both my babies and the new one I'm getting are all AKC.

Someone told me their dog was duel registered and that it was better.

I also have a friend who got a purebred puppy the other day registered APRI. I looked at the ladies website and just groaned. She actually met her in a gas station parking lot to pick up the puppy. He was 12 weeks old (thank goodness for that) but already weighs 4 pounds and his price was reduced because of his age. She told her for more $$$ she would send in her AKC papers and he'd be duel registered

capt_noonie 07-17-2011 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3601763)
Yes, both my babies and the new one I'm getting are all AKC.

Someone told me their dog was duel registered and that it was better.

I also have a friend who got a purebred puppy the other day registered APRI. I looked at the ladies website and just groaned. She actually met her in a gas station parking lot to pick up the puppy. He was 12 weeks old (thank goodness for that) but already weighs 4 pounds and his price was reduced because of his age. She told her for more $$$ she would send in her AKC papers and he'd be duel registered
This type of behavior is exactly what unscrupulous breeders do! If they are able to file via AKC it does NOT cost more money. It is a nominal fee, and I've seen many ask for 100's more, and most people just say oh that's ok forget it then.. Price reduced due to his age! He's 12 WEEKS! :thumbdown

If your pups are AKC registered, don't bother with any other registry. They were created by bad breeders into tricking unknowing buyers into believing their dogs have papers, when in reality the "papers" of those registries ACA, CKC (continental, not Canadian) APRI, etc aren't worth the paper it's printed on.

Now if a dog was dual registered AKC and CanadianKC I still don't know what advantage that it would have.

Jennxling 07-17-2011 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3601927)
This type of behavior is exactly what unscrupulous breeders do! If they are able to file via AKC it does NOT cost more money. It is a nominal fee, and I've seen many ask for 100's more, and most people just say oh that's ok forget it then.. Price reduced due to his age! He's 12 WEEKS! :thumbdown

If your pups are AKC registered, don't bother with any other registry. They were created by bad breeders into tricking unknowing buyers into believing their dogs have papers, when in reality the "papers" of those registries ACA, CKC (continental, not Canadian) APRI, etc aren't worth the paper it's printed on.

Now if a dog was dual registered AKC and CanadianKC I still don't know what advantage that it would have.
:thumbup:

McheleM 07-17-2011 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3601927)

Now if a dog was dual registered AKC and CanadianKC I still don't know what advantage that it would have.
More dog shows? More Points toward each clubs champion, and bragging rights to say your dog is a double champion????

Thanks for your replies. She did tell them she didn't need a registration, that he's a pet and papers weren't that big of a deal.

Jennxling 07-17-2011 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3601934)
More dog shows? More Points toward each clubs champion, and bragging rights to say your dog is a double champion????

Thanks for your replies. She did tell them she didn't need a registration, that he's a pet and papers weren't that big of a deal.
Did your friend see the parents?? The thing with other registrations is that non-purebred dogs can be registered as purebreds. They don't check, they simply ask $5 for the litter and $1 per a pup for (APRI) registration!! :eek: I found that out from the breeder that I was going to get a biewer from...and I started RUNNING! :p

McheleM 07-17-2011 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennxling (Post 3601935)
Did your friend see the parents?? The thing with other registrations is that non-purebred dogs can be registered as purebreds. They don't check, they simply ask $5 for the litter and $1 per a pup for (APRI) registration!! :eek: I found that out from the breeder that I was going to get a biewer from...and I started RUNNING! :p
Lol I know a lady who sells great Danes. Her coffee table is registered as a great Dane with ACA. She did it on purpose to prove it could be done. It's even named Coffee Table. She had a litter of 4, told them she had 5 and registered the coffee table.

She did not see parents. Breeder met her at a truck stop. I see disaster written all over it, but I've been telling her to make sure she gets him vaccinated and vet checked and things to watch for and look for and to come here for great advice. I don't think she even got a written health guarantee. I wish she had told me she was getting a puppy before she got one and I could have at least pointed her in a better direction and told her what to look for and questions to ask.

I think she knows it was a greeder, just wanting the money. And for what she paid, I doubt her pet is full anything. But she loves him and that's what's important.

Jennxling 07-17-2011 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 3601936)
Lol I know a lady who sells great Danes. Her coffee table is registered as a great Dane with ACA. She did it on purpose to prove it could be done. It's even named Coffee Table. She had a litter of 4, told them she had 5 and registered the coffee table.

She did not see parents. Breeder met her at a truck stop. I see disaster written all over it, but I've been telling her to make sure she gets him vaccinated and vet checked and things to watch for and look for and to come here for great advice. I don't think she even got a written health guarantee. I wish she had told me she was getting a puppy before she got one and I could have at least pointed her in a better direction and told her what to look for and questions to ask.

I think she knows it was a greeder, just wanting the money. And for what she paid, I doubt her pet is full anything. But she loves him and that's what's important.
:sidesplt: A coffee table? LoL Yeah, I doubt APRI is any different. So many greeders!! :mad:

To the last statement, :thumbup::thumbup: I'm glad that the puppy is in better hands now!!

McheleM 07-17-2011 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennxling (Post 3601938)
:sidesplt: A coffee table? LoL Yeah, I doubt APRI is any different. So many greeders!! :mad:

To the last statement, :thumbup::thumbup: I'm glad that the puppy is in better hands now!!
By the way, coffee table is male lol

gemy 07-18-2011 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3601927)
This type of behavior is exactly what unscrupulous breeders do! If they are able to file via AKC it does NOT cost more money. It is a nominal fee, and I've seen many ask for 100's more, and most people just say oh that's ok forget it then.. Price reduced due to his age! He's 12 WEEKS! :thumbdown

If your pups are AKC registered, don't bother with any other registry. They were created by bad breeders into tricking unknowing buyers into believing their dogs have papers, when in reality the "papers" of those registries ACA, CKC (continental, not Canadian) APRI, etc aren't worth the paper it's printed on.

Now if a dog was dual registered AKC and CanadianKC I still don't know what advantage that it would have.


Actually the only benefit I know of is for showing your dog. As I show both in the USA and Canada my dogs are registered in both registries. AKC and CKC ie Canadian Kennel Club.

The microchip should I would think be readable by vets here in Canada and the USA.

The rules for breeders registered with the CKC are a bit different than in the USA, in that all breeders MUST if selling a purebred pup, register the dog, and can NOT charge more for this process. In fact when you pick up a pup here from a CKC breeder, you should be prepared at the time to sign the registration paperwork. Then the breeder sends this in to the CKC and you the new owner, will receive your pups official registration number and paperwork from the CKC.

I truly don't understand any reputable breeder of CH dogs not registering their litters, and NOT going ahead to register the pups with AKC.

McheleM 07-18-2011 09:14 AM
So showing and breeding with good lines. Obviously with reputable clubs and nit ACA or APRI.

Thank you. I think the $$$$ was what the breeders wanted.
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3602160)
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Actually the only benefit I know of is for showing your dog. As I show both in the USA and Canada my dogs are registered in both registries. AKC and CKC ie Canadian Kennel Club.

The microchip should I would think be readable by vets here in Canada and the USA.

The rules for breeders registered with the CKC are a bit different than in the USA, in that all breeders MUST if selling a purebred pup, register the dog, and can NOT charge more for this process. In fact when you pick up a pup here from a CKC breeder, you should be prepared at the time to sign the registration paperwork. Then the breeder sends this in to the CKC and you the new owner, will receive your pups official registration number and paperwork from the CKC.

I truly don't understand any reputable breeder of CH dogs not registering their litters, and NOT going ahead to register the pups with AKC.


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