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sosasam6311 07-15-2011 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by licricket (Post 3597967)
They are NOT mongrels, please see the attached:
Biewer Breed Club of America
It will answer all of your questions.
We have owned yorkies all of our married life (42 years) and after losing one of our last ones, we found out about the Biewers, through a YT'er! They are wonderful, wonderful dogs. We now own two and wish we had a dozen!
Lili:

I am a new meember here, can you enlighten me more on this breed? I am looking at maybe getting 1.

Furbaby Friend 07-15-2011 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cobden28 (Post 3598991)
Oh dear, I do seem to have set the cat amongst the pigeons, don't I?

I have to admit I've not checked with our Kennel Club here in the UK, but I didn't see any parti-coloured ones when I was at Crufts earlier this year.

From what I understand these Yorkie-types have been bred with dogs such as the Shih-Tzu by unscrupulous breeders in order to get the black and white colouration. Biewers may look pretty, but if they've been produced by a backyard breeder without thought or consideration to necessary health testing of the parents the pups are just going to be a potential cause of vets bills to the future owners.

Personally I wouldn't choose to buy a 'Biewer' yorkie; I'd much rather go to a breed rescue and give a home to an unwanted/stray that needs a home, rather than be responsible for adding to the canine population of the UK.
Biewers are not backyard breeder/mill creations bred without regard to health or standard. They are recognized (in Germany) and are their own separate breed. Happy, healthy, and so loveable when purchased from the correct breeder just like any other dog.

It is just like for Yorkies, you have to buy your breeder. Purebreds (like Yorkies) can come from backyard breeders with health problems and issues just like any mix. It doesn't matter WHAT dog you buy, it matters what breeder you get them from. Buy from a bad breeder and you run the risk of getting a sick puppy. Period.

Before you go running around comparing backyard breeder pups to the Biewer. Do your research.

They aren't "Biewer Yorkies" by the way, they are Biewer *Terriers.* Related to, but separate from, the Yorkie.

Rescues are always a good choice. No matter what. :) :thumbup:

chachi 07-15-2011 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend (Post 3599153)
Biewers are not backyard breeder/mill creations bred without regard to health or standard. They are recognized (in Germany) and are their own separate breed. Happy, healthy, and so loveable when purchased from the correct breeder just like any other dog.

It is just like for Yorkies, you have to buy your breeder. Purebreds (like Yorkies) can come from backyard breeders with health problems and issues just like any mix. It doesn't matter WHAT dog you buy, it matters what breeder you get them from. Buy from a bad breeder and you run the risk of getting a sick puppy. Period.

Before you go running around comparing backyard breeder pups to the Biewer. Do your research.

They aren't "Biewer Yorkies" by the way, they are Biewer *Terriers.* Related to, but separate from, the Yorkie.

Rescues are always a good choice. No matter what. :) :thumbup:
Well it depends on who from which club answers because some say biewer yorkie and some say biewer terrier and thats whole other controversie in itself

Woogie Man 07-15-2011 10:20 AM
There are (I think) 3 different Biewer clubs in America. Here's the links for them. You will see that 2 state that the Biewer is a separate breed from the Yorkshire, while one uses the term 'Biewer Yorkies".

Biewer Terrier Club of America, Inc.

Biewer Breed Club of America

index

One curious thing. I see Biewers in the Yorkshire Terrier Nursery forum and also the Yorkshire Terrier For Sale forum. If they're a separate breed, shouldn't they be in the "Our Yorkies Brothers and Sisters" forum? Just asking...

Bentleys Momma 07-15-2011 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkb (Post 3598731)
Can I ask a silly question here? Is Biewer pronounced Bi-wer or Be-wer? I just want to make sure I am saying it correctly, and ie can make both a long i sound or a long e sound. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by silverjoy (Post 3598756)
It is pronounced "Biva" like "Diva"!!
Thank you both so much for asking and answering that question. I am so glad to finally know how to say it. I wanted to know but was afraid to ask.

Nonetheless, they are absolutely beautiful beautiful little babies!!! :D

Furbaby Friend 07-15-2011 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bentleys Momma (Post 3599204)
Thank you both so much for asking and answering that question. I am so glad to finally know how to say it. I wanted to know but was afraid to ask.

Nonetheless, they are absolutely beautiful beautiful little babies!!! :D
:thumbup::thumbup:

I knew it was pronounced "Biva." However, I must admit that I feel silly saying "Biva" because I feel like I don't sound German enough, haha. :D

Furbaby Friend 07-15-2011 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3599193)
Well it depends on who from which club answers because some say biewer yorkie and some say biewer terrier and thats whole other controversie in itself
I see. I wasn't aware of the controversy. Everything I have read has been consistent. However, thank you for making me aware :):thumbup:

Furbaby Friend 07-15-2011 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3599197)
There are (I think) 3 different Biewer clubs in America. Here's the links for them. You will see that 2 state that the Biewer is a separate breed from the Yorkshire, while one uses the term 'Biewer Yorkies".

Biewer Terrier Club of America, Inc.

Biewer Breed Club of America

index

One curious thing. I see Biewers in the Yorkshire Terrier Nursery forum and also the Yorkshire Terrier For Sale forum. If they're a separate breed, shouldn't they be in the "Our Yorkies Brothers and Sisters" forum? Just asking...
I do not start threads in those sections as I do not breed. However, my feeling is that since they are related (on the site I posted earlier YT's are referred to as cousins), they are still in the YT family. Thus, I still think it is fair Biewers are included in the YT areas of the forum.

In addition, as others have expressed, some feel the Biewer is just a different colored YT. I'm certainly not the authority and I'm not the only one with an opinion. My opinion that they are a separate breed, is my own.

However, if you'd like to contest that Biewer posts be moved, I'm sure you could send a message to Admin. They decide how to organize the posts after all. :)

The point of my post wasn't to start a debate on Biewer vs. Yorkie and how they relate to each other. It was to refute the post linking Biewers directly to BYB's/mills and poor breeding because I do not feel that is fair.

All in all, I love ALL pups. Mixes, purebreds, Yorkies, Biewers, Maltese, Poms, Labs, etc. They are all great and deserve love and affection. However, it is always buyer beware no matter what kind of pup you are buying!

Marlee12107 07-15-2011 01:49 PM
I have a dear friend that raises the Bewier Yorkies. They are yorkies, NOT crossed with any other breed. They come from 2 Yorkies that carry a recessive or mutated gene. And they were pulled aside to raise puppies to get this coloration. The ones my friend raises do have the docked tails. They were brought here from Germany. They are precious. They are like the yorkies we are use to except for our coloring. HUGS, Wanda

bchgirl 07-15-2011 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlee12107 (Post 3599329)
I have a dear friend that raises the Bewier Yorkies. They are yorkies, NOT crossed with any other breed. They come from 2 Yorkies that carry a recessive or mutated gene. And they were pulled aside to raise puppies to get this coloration. The ones my friend raises do have the docked tails. They were brought here from Germany. They are precious. They are like the yorkies we are use to except for our coloring. HUGS, Wanda
Not sure if you are saying the ones with docked tails came from Germany or the ones your friend has bred...regardless tail docking is illegal in Germany and the only disqualification in the confirmation ring. Both here and abroad.

AprilLove 07-15-2011 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sosasam6311 (Post 3599036)
Lili:

I am a new meember here, can you enlighten me more on this breed? I am looking at maybe getting 1.
Click on the link that licricket referred too :)

And here are some Biewers in action, hehehe


scrapindee 07-15-2011 06:16 PM
Some of us call them Biewers. They are a toy breed, recognized in the U.S. as a rare breed dog, in the rare breed show venues.

mscat 07-15-2011 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlee12107 (Post 3599329)
I have a dear friend that raises the Bewier Yorkies. They are yorkies, NOT crossed with any other breed. They come from 2 Yorkies that carry a recessive or mutated gene. And they were pulled aside to raise puppies to get this coloration. The ones my friend raises do have the docked tails. They were brought here from Germany. They are precious. They are like the yorkies we are use to except for our coloring. HUGS, Wanda
This is what my understanding is. I knew that they are not a cross of shih tzu. The shih tzus are from China . And not all shih tzu are black and white. :rolleyes:

Furbaby Friend 07-16-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 3599528)
Click on the link that licricket referred too :)

And here are some Biewers in action, hehehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsfDBNXVjm8
Cute video! Thanks for posting :thumbup: :)

GreenwoodBiewer 07-18-2011 08:05 AM
Gracious me... I haven't been back here for awhile, but it is so very interesting to read some of these posts..

Gives me a giggle for the day.

Diana :animal-pa


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