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YorkDaddy 05-27-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548508)
OK. So let's say he wasnt too educated on buying in his puppy. He gets that. We get that. What he is now trying to do is make the best of this unfortunate situation. He loves the dog and wants the dog (although his situation is kinda unique), but I guess its not enough to those on here who have more experience. I mean, what else can he do? Why must some continue to berate him for misinformed choices? What a way to lower his morale.

Thanks babiegurl! I've spoke my piece on the situation. It's whatever! I will continue to learn all that I can on this website to provide the best life for Twix!

All this other crap has nothing to do with the new life I'm responsible for taking care of NOW!

Thanks again!

ladyjane 05-27-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548508)
OK. So let's say he wasnt too educated on buying in his puppy. He gets that. We get that. What he is now trying to do is make the best of this unfortunate situation. He loves the dog and wants the dog (although his situation is kinda unique), but I guess its not enough to those on here who have more experience. I mean, what else can he do? Why must some continue to berate him for misinformed choices? What a way to lower his morale.

I am not berating him. From my standpoint, he put it out there and he said he wanted opinions which he is getting.

Once you are on this forum for a while, perhaps you will begin to understand what is going on here.

People are letting him know what can happen and advising him. They are berating the breeder based upon his information. If you think anyone is going to say "great job picking out your breeder", think again! I am on this forum to educate and that is what I am doing.

I stated earlier that I understand he is going to purchase this puppy anyway. That does not mean I have to sit here and rubber stamp where he is getting the puppy from. I also would be remiss in not informing him of the hazards. If I had a nickel for every person I have seen end up in jams from buying puppies from people like this woman, I would have a nice bank account.

AND......there are many people who read this forum! If what I put in writing saves but one yorkie today it is all worth my time and effort! :)

ladyjane 05-27-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkDaddy (Post 3548513)
Thanks babiegurl! I've spoke my piece on the situation. It's whatever! I will continue to learn all that I can on this website to provide the best life for Twix!

All this other crap has nothing to do with the new life I'm responsible for taking care of NOW!

Thanks again!

You surely are not learning much if you call what people are posting here "crap". I just love when people say they want opinions when they really do not. All I can say is good luck to you and I will pray that this puppy is a healthy one. I will also say prayers for the one that will probably die in a shelter because this idiot woman managed to con another person.

babiegurl 05-27-2011 10:41 AM

Enjoy your baby! My baby will be home tomorrow! Someone was letting her go on craigslist and I lucked out to have gotten her! Good luck!

ladyjane 05-27-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548517)
Enjoy your baby! My baby will be home tomorrow! Someone was letting her go on craigslist and I lucked out to have gotten her! Good luck!

I just pray that this time she lucked out. :)

babiegurl 05-27-2011 10:48 AM

Is that a shot at me? I guess its my turn to be attacked. Smh. I'm on here to learn just like all the newbies. While she is not a purebred yorkie (shes a mutt), I would like to think I'm capable of caring for her and if I have any questions like the best food to feed her (i didn't know Beneful was horrible!), I can come here and seek advice without getting my feelings hurt.

Jezebel Dutches 05-27-2011 10:53 AM

If it were me I would take my baby home this weekend! Just make sure you get everything you need while your there because you may not be able to contact them after the sale. Things this might include are: ACK regisration papers, buyers guarantee, vet records/shot records, etc..
Neither of my babies started barking until they were almost 1 year old.

ladyjane 05-27-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548530)
Is that a shot at me? I guess its my turn to be attacked. Smh. I'm on here to learn just like all the newbies. While she is not a purebred yorkie (shes a mutt), I would like to think I'm capable of caring for her and if I have any questions like the best food to feed her (i didn't know Beneful was horrible!), I can come here and seek advice without getting my feelings hurt.

I don't even know you. I said I hope she lucked out because to end up with someone who just gives you to someone on the internet is not exactly a fortunate situation. If I knew you, I might say...Oh, she lucked out.
Nothing personal. A simple comment. You feel lucky and I hope she is as well.

Oh, and again, NO ONE has been attacked on this thread but the breeder based upon the OP's description of her and her breeding practices. :)

There is a lot to learn here on YT. :) Welcome. :)

YorkDaddy 05-27-2011 11:02 AM

The crap is not the information, the crap is the attitude and tone that comes with the information that is passed along. Many others have stated the same information and its all in how its delivered.

Again, did I ask you to hold my hand and kiss me on the chick and tell me it will be alright? Did I ask you to say wow, you found a great breeder and that I should report her to the YTCA? I certainly did not! Did I debate what you said? Again, no I did not!

If you want to, as it seems you have the time. Go back and show me where I once challenged anything that was factual information in this post...I never did. When I didn't respond to you I was "ignoring" you. Again, No......I did want to go through this "crap" on a board when I didn't come here to argue.

Like I mentioned in one of my previous postings. Everyone has their opinion and that is why I'm here. TO LEARN and observe.

Babiegurl I apologize that this post has turned out this way and it seems like you are catching the wrath of Mother Terrier!

At this point, its best to just ignore these kind of posters and just gather your knowledge from the positive people. I can't wait until you get your baby! Good luck. Keep me posted!!!

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:03 AM

I know youre passionate about yorkies and the mistreatment of them and I dont want you to think I am trying to make light of the situation, but he already bought the dog. What else could have been done? Yes, the research came too late for the OP and I am sure a rubber stamp of approval was not needed. I mean, just by reading this thread, I've learned A LOT. I didnt know Ole Roy was bad (Never even heard of it) and now I know what to look for or not to look for when and if I decided to ever purchase a purebreed. I guess the damage was done by him purchasing the dog and there was no need to make him feel even worse. I've also learned theres no such thing as a "cutrate" yorkie and in the end you truly get what you pay for it.

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:07 AM

At the end of the day, You cant please everybody. Now that I offered my home to a puppy who's owner couldnt no longer afford to take care of their dog and I stepped in to do it, now its questionable. I would like to think I SAVED A LIFE.

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkDaddy (Post 3548543)
The crap is not the information, the crap is the attitude and tone that comes with the information that is passed along. Many others have stated the same information and its all in how its delivered.

Again, did I ask you to hold my hand and kiss me on the chick and tell me it will be alright? Did I ask you to say wow, you found a great breeder and that I should report her to the YTCA? I certainly did not! Did I debate what you said? Again, no I did not!

If you want to, as it seems you have the time. Go back and show me where I once challenged anything that was factual information in this post...I never did. When I didn't respond to you I was "ignoring" you. Again, No......I did want to go through this "crap" on a board when I didn't come here to argue.

Like I mentioned in one of my previous postings. Everyone has their opinion and that is why I'm here. TO LEARN and observe.

Babiegurl I apologize that this post has turned out this way and it seems like you are catching the wrath of Mother Terrier!

At this point, its best to just ignore these kind of posters and just gather your knowledge from the positive people. I can't wait until you get your baby! Good luck. Keep me posted!!!

Quite frankly, I find that your tone is much more hostile than anyone on this thread.

There again....tone in writing is how a person interprets it.

Again...good luck to you and your puppy.

Oh YES...and be SURE to gather your knowledge from people who think that back yard breeders are nice people with great pups. :rolleyes:

YorkDaddy 05-27-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jezebel Dutches (Post 3548536)
If it were me I would take my baby home this weekend! Just make sure you get everything you need while your there because you may not be able to contact them after the sale. Things this might include are: ACK regisration papers, buyers guarantee, vet records/shot records, etc..
Neither of my babies started barking until they were almost 1 year old.


Hey sorry I missed this :)

Thank you for the information! One of the ladies I spoke with at the vet said she is going to take us hands on and be our Godparents. She loved how involved I was and all the thousands of questions I had. I'm making copies of everything for her to keep as a backup. LOL! She will officially be his Godmother......and hey......what could be better she works at the vet office!

Wow @ them not barking until 1. You are really going to make me want to bring him home tomorrow!!!!

Thanks again!

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548545)
At the end of the day, You cant please everybody. Now that I offered my home to a puppy who's owner person who couldnt afford to take care of their dog and I stepped in to do it, now its questionable. Riiiiight. SMDH...

No one said you did something questionable. I SAID the person who just tossed her aside did something questionable. I would never put a pup out on CL. And...I would never take in a pup that I could not afford to care for. But..hey...that's just me. I cannot tell you how many of those stories I have heard. People need to be responsible and think prior to obtaining a living being.
And what is SMDH?

YorkDaddy 05-27-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3548546)
Quite frankly, I find that your tone is much more hostile than anyone on this thread.

There again....tone in writing is how a person interprets it.

Again...good luck to you and your puppy.

Oh YES...and be SURE to gather your knowledge from people who think that back yard breeders are nice people with great pups. :rolleyes:


My tone is hostile huh? I don't think so.....so maybe that is the way you are interpreting it! ;)

Thank you, I certainly will gather my information from them? :thumbdown

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548544)
I know youre passionate about yorkies and the mistreatment of them and I dont want you to think I am trying to make light of the situation, but he already bought the dog. What else could have been done? Yes, the research came too late for the OP and I am sure a rubber stamp of approval was not needed. I mean, just by reading this thread, I've learned A LOT. I didnt know Ole Roy was bad (Never even heard of it) and now I know what to look for or not to look for when and if I decided to ever purchase a purebreed. I guess the damage was done by him purchasing the dog and there was no need to make him feel even worse. I've also learned theres no such thing as a "cutrate" yorkie and in the end you truly get what you pay for it.

And, many people who are not even posting on this thread MAY have learned something valuable: That pups are dying in shelters while the back yard breeders and millers are pumping them out like crazy.

These threads are not just for the few people who post on them. .

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3548549)
No one said you did something questionable. I SAID the person who just tossed her aside did something questionable. I would never put a pup out on CL. And...I would never take in a pup that I could not afford to care for. But..hey...that's just me. I cannot tell you how many of those stories I have heard. People need to be responsible and think prior to obtaining a living being.
And what is SMDH?

Well, I am never the one to just purchase something without thinking long term. I even purchased Pet's Best Insurance for her. In my area, for some reason, people are listing yorkies that need to be rehomed like its nobody's business! When I first decided looking for a dog, I thought about going to a breeder. When I stumbled upon this site, I read about how there are so many dogs who need homes that people should visit shelters to get a dog. Tried that but none of the dogs matched what I was looking for. Most rescues dont want to adopt to people with kids under a certain age (Understandable) so instead of just going out and purchasing one, I thought I could adopt one from someone who would have put the dog in a shelter to be euthanized. Some of the reasons the people were giving up the dog was mad crazy (having a baby, moving, other dogs, etc) and I just wanted to do something without contributing to more dogs being put in a shelter. SMDH= Scratching my darn head....

Rhetts_mama 05-27-2011 11:26 AM

I'm sorry, but calling information you don't agree with "crap" is quite offensive to me. You said you learned from this site that Ol Roy was junky food, presumably from a thread that wasn't directed at you. Someone else is going to come on here and read this thread (hopefully before they've put their $ down on a dog with a bad breeder) and learn that there are things that should make them run in the other direction from a person like this.

None of it is crap. If you don't agree with it, ignore it, but don't tell others that their info is crap.

Hopefully, you will be one of the lucky ones who get their dog from a bad breeder but doesn't have any problems. It happens once in awhile. But in case you don't get so lucky, this forum will still be the best place to get info to best serve the dog.

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548558)
Well, I am never the one to just purchase something without thinking long term. I even purchased Pet's Best Insurance for her. In my area, for some reason, people are listing yorkies that need to be rehomed like its nobody's business! When I first decided looking for a dog, I thought about going to a breeder. When I stumbled upon this site, I read about how there are so many dogs who need homes that people should visit shelters to get a dog. Tried that but none of the dogs matched what I was looking for. Most rescues dont want to adopt to people with kids under a certain age (Understandable) so instead of just going out and purchasing one, I thought I could adopt one from someone who would have put the dog in a shelter to be euthanized. Some of the reasons the people were giving up the dog was mad crazy (having a baby, moving, other dogs, etc) and I just wanted to do something without contributing to more dogs being put in a shelter. SMDH= Scratching my darn head....

I scratch mine a lot. :D

Anyway....will look forward to "meeting" your new pup! Be sure and post pics tomorrow. :)

BellaDonna 05-27-2011 11:29 AM

Yorkdaddy and Babiegurl, hope you both have great luck with your dogs. I was lucky enough to get a wonderful little dog from what I call a pet breeding and she is the most marvelous little dog.
We already had 6 Chihuahua's when I had the chance for the Yorkie and it is amazing how different the two breeds are. Even though they are both small dogs they have totally different characteristics and behaviour.
Bella (our Yorkie) is much smarter than our Chihuahua's (don't tell the Chi's) :rolleyes: and she never stops moving. My husband and I said she should have been named EVEREADY like the battery!
She has had no medical issues, no illness (so far) and no major personality disorders.

I am very much against puppy mills and that always gets me going but now that you have purchased your dogs the best advice I can give is to make sure you don't fail them. Remember they are not disposable and even if they have issues it falls to you to care for them. Sickness and in health. My hubby and I stretch $$ pretty close to take care of the furkids we have but they repay us in ways to numerous to name.

Good luck and I can't wait to see pictures of both when you get them home!

P.S. My Bella doesn't bark unless she wants to play or someone has something she WANTS....then watch out!

ArmaniMan 05-27-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548558)
Well, I am never the one to just purchase something without thinking long term. I even purchased Pet's Best Insurance for her. In my area, for some reason, people are listing yorkies that need to be rehomed like its nobody's business! When I first decided looking for a dog, I thought about going to a breeder. When I stumbled upon this site, I read about how there are so many dogs who need homes that people should visit shelters to get a dog. Tried that but none of the dogs matched what I was looking for. Most rescues dont want to adopt to people with kids under a certain age (Understandable) so instead of just going out and purchasing one, I thought I could adopt one from someone who would have put the dog in a shelter to be euthanized. Some of the reasons the people were giving up the dog was mad crazy (having a baby, moving, other dogs, etc) and I just wanted to do something without contributing to more dogs being put in a shelter. SMDH= Scratching my darn head....

I didn't realize you were rescuing your new little pup- geez, how long did these people have that poor girl, she is only 9 weeks old? Poor thing, she shouldn't even have left the breeder yet and is going to her second home! :( Good Luck with her- they are a ball of trouble at that age! She will for sure keep you on your toes!

Rhetts_mama 05-27-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BellaDonna (Post 3548567)

P.S. My Bella doesn't bark unless she wants to play or someone has something she WANTS....then watch out!


Donna- tell me your secret! Mine bark like MAD, especially if they see someone walk by with a dog. I'm dog sitting again this weekend and my little
Buddy has decided to chime in with his opinion of the passersby, too!

BellaDonna 05-27-2011 11:32 AM

Did I forget to say she ALWAYS wants to play?:p

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3548564)
I scratch mine a lot. :D

Anyway....will look forward to "meeting" your new pup! Be sure and post pics tomorrow. :)


Thank you! I am just a newbie and I dont know much and I am definitely not trying to ruffle any feathers! I believe all of you can teach us newbies a lot! I may not know you, but I do know youre PASSIONATE about yorkies and I dont blame you not one bit! My olive branch is extended to one and all!

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548575)
Thank you! I am just a newbie and I dont know much and I am definitely not trying to ruffle any feathers! I believe all of you can teach us newbies a lot! I may not know you, but I do know youre PASSIONATE about yorkies and I dont blame you not one bit! My olive branch is extended to one and all!


I did not think you were trying to ruffle feathers. I just thought that you were misunderstanding the intent.

Happy to see you here. :)

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3548569)
I didn't realize you were rescuing your new little pup- geez, how long did these people have that poor girl, she is only 9 weeks old? Poor thing, she shouldn't even have left the breeder yet and is going to her second home! :( Good Luck with her- they are a ball of trouble at that age! She will for sure keep you on your toes!

I dont know! I just wanted to step in and save her and from what I've read from here, she could very well be from a byb (They can do a great job of concealing themselves)! I'm telling you this site has me paranoid about byb and puppymills! I am suspicious now, but the rehome fee for her wasnt some outrageous price ($95), so who knows??? Best believe she has an appointment to see my vet on Tuesday (They say she has had some vaccinations)....

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3548580)
I did not think you were trying to ruffle feathers. I just thought that you were misunderstanding the intent.

Happy to see you here. :)

Good! Now I am going to harass you with all of my questions! LOL....Like how young is too young to have her spayed? In Chicago, our PAWS said it could be done as young as 8 weeks, but isnt that too young? How about food? I fed my Cavalier Spaniel Beneful for years without knowing it was a terrible brand and from what I've read Yorkies tend to have digestive problems. What food would you reccommend? I am going to stalk you with my questions!!!

gemy 05-27-2011 11:39 AM

York Daddy:

I don't know the age of the pup you are thinking of getting this wkend. But if that pup has not been BATS tested please make sure the health guarantee covers Liver Shunt, and make sure the health guarantees against LP. And at 16 wks test for BATS maybe 50-75$ test depending upon where you are.

I am as serious as a "heart attack here". Do you know that LS is over 30% in this breed and it is a serious condition that if it requires surgery could cost upwards of $2000; not to mention the unestimable cost in heart ache to you as the owner of this pup.

Luxating Patella is very very common not only in this breed but in many other small breeds. It can be very minor ie Grade One, which if you are lucky and do the right care may not manifest itself other than arthritis as the pup gets to mid senior years, or it can be much more serious requiring surgery in the first two years of life. Again think minimum of $2000 for this surgery.

So when you pick up this pup this weekend understand that roughly you have a one in three chance (or more) that your pup will have one of these conditions.

Sobering stats huh?

Next look at the cost of annual vet care for a healthy Yorkie. Dentals for Yorkies are usually necessary. That is extra 1-$200 over regular vaccines. Oh yes and those vaccines need to be split up; and likely you will need to pay a vet visit plus the vaccine cost ; which will triple the "normal" annual cost of vaccines.

So when you sign up to own this Yorkie you do so knowingly.

ladyjane 05-27-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by babiegurl (Post 3548583)
Good! Now I am going to harass you with all of my questions! LOL....Like how young is too young to have her spayed? In Chicago, our PAWS said it could be done as young as 8 weeks, but isnt that too young? How about food? I fed my Cavalier Spaniel Beneful for years without knowing it was a terrible brand and from what I've read Yorkies tend to have digestive problems. What food would you reccommend? I am going to stalk you with my questions!!!

She is only 9 weeks old?? eeek. I just saw that. As for spaying...no way would I spay her before six months of age.

Food....everyone has different opinions. I feed my pups Castor and Pollux Ultramix. You definitely need to put her on a puppy food when you do decide what to feed her. I assume you know there is a forum for diet and food information.

babiegurl 05-27-2011 11:43 AM

Does anyone here have pet insurance or do you pay out of pocket?


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