Do you get irritated with all the ads wanting free or really cheap yorkies?
 

I keep seeing tons of ads for people wanting free or cheap yorkies under $300! Unless it is a close family friend or relative, nobody is just going to give their baby up for free or for that cheap. If it has to be a yorkie, then they need to go to the rescue yorkies. It will not be a puppy though and may have special needs. But, they will be saving a life. They don't realize how much it costs for the yorkie parents and for the medical care it needs during its pregnancy. And the shots the puppies will need before they can go home. The cost can reach thousands of dollars. Plus, you want to make sure your baby is going to a good home and not just off the street. I know I am not one of these people that can afford $1000 for a puppy either. But, I am not asking or expecting someone to give me one for free or under $300 either. I will try to put my money aside little by little if I have to. Because not everybody deserves a dog. I cannot stand people that purchase a dog, then lose interest. And then the dog gets neglected or mistreated. Any dog is a commitment of anywhere from 10 to possibly 15 years or maybe more.

No I dont get irritated. I am always happy to hear someone who cant afford alot of the prices finds a breeder selling them for a price they can afford. I think yorkies are an expensive breed. There are other small breeds and their price runs in that $300-400 range. I paid 600 for a male and 1200 for a female and that was the going rate and Im in Indiana. Other states are much higher even. I do agree with you though that people who are looking for a lower price should look at the rescues.

Can I just say, for the most part, "Amen". I know that way before I actually researched breeding....which honestly wasn't that long ago, I thought it was all "free" money because "the mother dog does all the work". Now I know that for "a fact" that is not true. I am way more stressed out emotionally, not to mention finacially, than the Mother dog (Tiah in this case) is. However.....she can accomplish more in one day with a litter than I ever can. Any good healthy pup starts with lots of TLC and good vet care with its mother way before it is ever even conceived. Hope I am not running on and on......

I agree. There are a lot of dogs that needs rescued.

Does it irritate me to see cheap ads? No, it doesn't. They're the breeders and they can charge whatever they want to. I cannot charge $300 and come anywhere close to breaking even.

What does irritate me is when people call and ask me to come down in price. My answer is always no. There is too much time and money that goes into raising a litter properly. If they want a cheap yorkie, I tell them to go elsewhere.

I was only asking because I know a lot do get upset. Because I myself, did research on breeding. I know how much money it costs. I know some good breeders that don't just do it for the money. There are some that you get priced around $650, but it is a rare find. The groomer that used to groom Lacey is going to be selling her pups for $650. It all depends on the person. If I was a breeder, I would make sure that my babies were going to a really good home. I would probably ask for references. I could not live with myself if I sold a yorkie to someone who did not properly take care of him or her. Because if they can't afford to pay $600 or more for a puppy, then how are they going to afford vet care? Shots alone can get expensive and what if the dog gets sick? Then, that is more money for vet care. When Lacey got kidney failure, she had to have fluid shots 3 times a week. That was the only way to prolong her life. And that got expensive at $16 a shot, 3 times a week!

Though, on the other hand....there was a time when I had no extra money for a dog. I thought the prices out there were people just trying to make money off of rich people. I never, in my life, thought I'd pay $1,000 for a dog that couldn't help clean the house! (P.S. I still think it would be helpful if all of that energy could go toward something positive :D ). Anyway, I can see both sides. God sure knew what he was doing when he made puppies and kids so darned cute :p

I hear you... :yeahthat:
I have some ads out there for my pups and people are actually telling me;
How much they will pay and how they will pay me or why can't I just give them one.....
Uhhmmmm... :mad:
My Lily had a C-Section 900.++ dollars.
That doesn't include other visits, she had complications and the shots for the pups.
Your absolutely right, there are people that just don't know and just don't care.
I do though have a Contract with all my pups, I make sure they care. :p

Here where I live, you can find males for $650. That doesn't mean you're getting a yucky dog, either. That's why if that's what the breeder wants to charge, then great for the potential buyer. Just check out the breeder really well.

Best of luck to you.

My concern is that if they cannot afford more than 300.00 for a yorkie how are they going to take care of the many vet bills, grooming etc. They are not a cheap breed and any dog can run up high vet bills in a very quick time. I think you have to look at it as a long term investment.

I do not do this...mine go to the vet, but there are a lot of breeders out there that do their own shots/wormings and tail docking. This cuts out a lot on the costs.

I guess people think it doesn't cost much for a breeder to produce a puppy. It does get me upset, but then again people don't know. This is what it cost me for my first litter.
$80. Exam on Bell
$600-stud fee
$90 xrays
$75 post natal check up and tails dock and declaws removed
$120 1st shots
$30 AKC papers
$120 2nd shots
ANd all the time lost at work, and many hours of lost sleep too!
That is for three puppies, 1 I kept for myself.
There isn't really a profit.
I think if people break it down then they would realize cheap or free it impossible :p

Good for you :yeahthat:
Plus 900.00 C-Section if needed (should always be considered)

EXACTLY!!!

What irritates me most is when people inquire and the first thing out of hteir mouth is 'how much?'..That should not be the most important factor. Health and care shoudl be the first questions then price should be discussed. I have to admit I do NOT reply to emails that ask 'how much?' :thumbdown . If someone does say they have a budget I ALWAYS refer to rescue organizations.

Now my prices are on the higher end but I can account for my expenses. I am still trying to break even. I bought some pupppies that ended up with health defects. I paid for a sound breeding quality yorkie that I ended up spaying and placing for less than $1000 including spay..add to that all these expenses and I'm still in the RED

I own 12 so off the bat take the routine vet care you pay for one yorkie (dentals, shots, food, toys, vitamins, pee pads, grooming supplies, flea prevention, heartworm prevention and any other unexpect vet bills that may come up) per year and multiply that by 12 and that's what I pay; mabye a little more because my vet specializes in canine reproduction. Then add to that the xtras I do because I want so badly to make sure that i don't breed one with hereditary defect that can take away from the quality of life or be life threatening. I have all my Yorkies BA tested, my females have vaginal swabs and progestrone tests done prior to matitng to make sure I breed them at peak. I dont' just breed them for days and hope they take. Once bred, I have my female ultra sounded and then xrayed a copule days before due date. Because I work full have my moms-to-be stay with a mid-wife that my clinic has. She has a set up at her home to keep expecting moms on labor watch for 24 hrs round the clock. I send my mom's there 2 days before they are due so taht they can be monitored and watched by someone experience who can handle any situation in my absense. That alone costs me $80 a day. Then a c-section if there was a problem. Once the puppies are here I pay to have tails and dews done, all shots are done by my vet they have at least 2 sets before leaving. Stools are checked, they are on flea prevention, and will have a full blood panel to clear them of LS any other health problems that can be seen in the blood. I aslo alter my puppies before placing them now. I also have a VERY nice pupppy kit I send home. I offer a full guarantee for 1 yr for hereditary defects but lifetime support, you can call me any time. My Yorkies range from $1200-$2500 females are more expensive becuase the spay is done by Laparscopy which costs twice as much as the traditional spay. If i have a tiny puppy I do charge more becuse I have to keep them longer which is more money I have to pay. the money i make covers expenses for my Yorkies. I COULD charge more but that means I would have a smaller selection of homes and I wouldnt be able to be as picky. I try to be fair but I need to recoup my expenses too.

Now this is my choice, this does not mean breeders that don't do things the same as me are not reputable.

Hugs,
Irene and the million $ gang

I don't get irritated with ads, I don't have the time for that. I do get irritated by people who think this is a get rich quick scheme and I am making a fortune on puppies. They simply have no concept of the amount of money that is spent in routine vet/care/testing and then the unexpected expenses that sometimes pop up. A pup that I just placed for $1,000.00 to a pet home cost me over $3,000.00 before she left here sound and well. The initial investment for good quality breeding dogs is another extraordinary expense. I just bought out my ex's interest in our dogs/all mine now...that was $17,000.00. Add that to my half already paid and you're up past $30K. How many years do ya think it might take to get out of the red? Don't forget to tally up incidental expenses like chewies and ex-pens and bedding. Cleaning supplies, pee-pads, wormers, flea/tick control...the list goes on and on. Then there are the expenses involved with going to shows to make sure you're on the right track with your breeding program. Oh, and the little dog heaven deck/run in my yard wasn't free. I could probably cut expenses by not providing my dogs with best of everything that I can manage, but that's not a consideration. Hey, I DO save money by doing dewclaws and tails myself, but the reason I do it is not to save, I just don't like to stress mom and newborn pups with a trip to the vet.
What is the going wage rate for sleepless nights? LOL!
I want to snort out loud when I hear about a breeder telling someone they registered their dogs with an alternate registry to save the expense of the AKC. Ridiculous! That is chump change in the grand scheme of things.
All just an example of ...you get what you pay for.

You feel my pain..lolol.Well the going rate for sleepless nights is about $80 a night that's what I pay the mid-wife that keeps my moms on labor watch..rofll..

I want to know how breeders can sell them for less than $1000 and provide good quality Yorkies over all? I'm sure they have some that come out fine and that's great

I wish I was making something to at least break even..lolol. But I enjoy it and I DON'T tally my expenses because I don't want to see the end result..rofllll..

Hugs,
Wini

cost
 

i just gave away three yorkie male puppys to my sister , nephew an wife an my sisters neighbor who did some work for my sister after her husbands death he has a 15 year old poodle an a 15 year old shtzu i kept the runt who is a female an sold 1 female an i did it because i knew they were going to great homes money means nothing if they aren't in great homes but i do know why the cost is so much

What really irritate me is peoples always wanting to pay the lower prices and wanting the higher quality .

I think she was referring to ads from people WANTING a yorkie, but I understand what you are saying...


and YES, it makes me just as upset to see those ads as it does for those members here who complain about the yorkies whose breeders are asking $3500-$5000 for.

To me, if there are some altruistic breeders out there who can afford to spread the yorkie joy by offering these precious babies for such ridiculously low prices, then that's fine if they choose the homes carefully, but, what I am afraid these prices mean is that the breeder may not be caring properly for the mother and the litter and may be letting the puppies go way too young to avoid all the costs involved with raising them to the proper age of 12 weeks before adopting them out.

I have asked a lot of breeders what it costs to raise a puppy to 12 weeks and most agree that it is at least $1000 if all goes well and that is not including their TIME!!!!

If it is gouging for the breeder to ask more than say $2000 then what is it when a buyer asks to pay less than $500????

Very well said!

Hey, thanks....I did get a bit long-winded there. LOL!

haha! Yuppers, I've been guilty of that, too! :D

Agree...if someone can't afford to buy a dog, how are they going to afford to properly care for it...especially if, God forbid, something were to happen to it medically. That is how all of the poor babies end up in need of being rescued to begin with.

From a rescue point I know what you mean. I always sorta cringe when I hear or see people that want an inexpensive dog. I have always said if you can't afford to buy/adopt the dog you can't afford to keep the dog. I really am sorry that these little guys are not a cheap date but just look at the threads this week and the health issues many of the YT members have run into. The thousands of dollars people have had to pay to make their little ones well again. It is so sad but that is the reality of these dogs.

Just so you know yorkie rescue's are not always at a bargain price either. And yes we hear the same things but in our case they want it free. A good rescue will take in a dog and do whatever it takes to make the dog well again and in many cases it is into the thousands of dollars. Some of the issues could have been prevented with good health care, i.e. dental but many of the people either didn't know, didn't care, or didn't have the money to take care of their animals until finally the animal was sick and the vet presented them with a hugh bill and they turned the animal over to rescue. Rescue's usually take the older dogs, the petshop dogs, the backyard breeders dogs (inexpensive dogs in many cases & with a lot of inherited health issues). Rescue's use their own $$$ to make them well again and do what the owner should have done. Many vets help with the costs on these rescue's but our average cost was $350. Even if we got a healthy younger dog, we still would have a health checkup and most cases we had to bring them up to speed on their vaccinations so never did one rescue not cost us something. There were times that we would take a rescue out of the pound and take it to our own vet knowing it was dying but we wanted someone to hold this little one while it passed over to the Rainbow Bridge. This also cost money that could not be recouped but we just couldn't stand the thought this sweet little animal had to die by itself and be thrown on a pile of other dead dogs because the owner asked the pound to euthanize it because it was old and sick. These people didn't have the $$$ or didn't want to take the animal to their own vet because it would cost them money. :mad:

The best a rescue can ever hope for is to breakeven so they can continue doing their work because someone has to.

We always told prospective adopters that at a minimum you will pay about $400 yearly for the dog. This includes food, grooming, a yearly exam and other incidentals. As all of you know this really is at the low end as the animal ages.

I know some people would say that everyone deserves to own a Yorkie but then I think I deserve to own a 10 million dollar home, my own private jet and a slew of other things that I just can't afford. So I don't have them.

Ok, I will get off of my soapbox now.

Cindy & The Gang :aimeeyork

Cindy thank you for that! YOu do add valuable information to this thread from a rescue perspective. What is the name of your Rescue and do they have a website? How about Auctions?

Hugs,
Irene

Thanks Irene for your kind words. :) Right now our website is down but because we told every vet in AZ that has not slowed down the flow of Yorkie's coming in or the phone calls. My friend and I finally got some people in Phoenix to help as the majority of the dogs were coming from Phoenix which is 2 hours away and they are listed under CABRA which is an umbrella for all breed rescue in AZ. My friend had to go away for a couple of months and I work full time for a major corporation so we had to slow things down for the time being. We are just word of mouth now for the Tucson area. Maybe that is why I finally found YT and I really have been enjoying this group. Hopefully when my friend gets back (she is the front person and I am the foster mom person) we can get back up running again.

Cindy & The Gang :aimeeyork

Hey now, i was once one of those people looking for a "cheaper" yorkie... but i still wouldnt call it cheap. I did my research thoroughly and got landed with "toby" ...lol (im kidding i really do love him... he has had no problems at all and he is just what i was looking for... he was $500).. You do have to look at it from all perspectives though. . . When i was looking for one: i went to the shelters and got rejected because i didnt own a home, :mad: so i started to look at breeders and there was a great range in price. Toby doesnt have papers, but i wanted "pet quality" anyway. I looked for months for a yorkie that was "the right price" while i saved up more and more money. And lets be honest here, the only expensive part of vet bills is if there is something unexpected ect. and you can avoid that by getting pet insurance. Spay/ nueter is cheap, shots are cheap, ect. . . I did my homework before buying the dog and knew exactly what i was getting into, but again with medical care you can shop around with that too. . . just because one vet charges an arm and a leg doesnt mean they all do. . . so, does it bother me when people want to find a dog on a lower budget? nope just advise them to take their time and shop around. .. what does bug me though is when people make ignorant comments that "people that work full time shouldnt have a yorkie" or "college students arent secure enough to own a yorkie" ect.

I will definately agree with you here. I work a full time job. I have a Yorkie. My sister is in college...she has a Yorkie too. I'll throw in another one: I have a young child (4 yrs). Are people with kids not supposed to have a full time job either? My opinion is...I MAKE plenty of time for both my child and my dogs...if I didn't think I could do that, I wouldn't have had a child or gotten dogs. But you know, both dogs and child like to eat and have a warm, safe place to sleep...takes money...

The part that I get the most upset about is that if the person asking for a "free or cheap" pet can't afford to put more money into the pet itself, then what are they going to do when heaven forbid something happens and they need to go to the vet for an emergency trip such as I've had to do in the past several weeks and spend several hundred dollars a pop? What are they going to do when their little beloved pet that they couldn't afford to buy in the first place needs vet treatment and they cannot afford to get it? Are they going to beg for that too? I know I sound a little harsh, but it's the truth. This day and age, people want more than what they can afford and properly take care of. If you can't afford it and you can't afford the care it will take, the foreseeable and not, then you shouldn't own it...PERIOD.

I agree! My friend got Guinness for $300.. without any paper.. Guinness is a wonderful yorkie... and.. it was good deal for my friend .... Some people cannot afford but sometimes they get lucky.. and.. all yorkies are... adorable anyway :)