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Reese1 03-22-2011 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3471558)
I am going to leave you all to your discussion, leave me and my vets practices out of it. Thank you very much. The battery on me, my integrity, my opinions and my comments is growing old.

I'm leaving this thread with some good input in information form some and have put up with a lot of crap from so many others. I look forward to hearing form all of you again, With so many wonderful things to say, I'm sure...

Good Night!! :(
First of all, I think we need to clear up that "battery" involves contact, which obviously cannot occur here.
I hope you have taken in the information regarding breeding and your vet.
I know my vet has commented on other vets over vaccinating, and it's usually a matter of money.
It's never too late to learn, change and improve.

concretegurl 03-22-2011 04:10 AM
I really hope so too, think I ticked her off too much to get a positive reaction, action unfortunately...
Have you seen her web site...promotes over vaccinating and has a lot of contradictory information on it...from what's said on YT to there...apparently she does a lot of vaccinating and no health genetic testing...sending pups out at 8 weeks too...health contract covers death (only) due to genetic defect only...... half the stuff under grooming, care, etc is copy/pasted from other sites...
Dawn's Yorkies / Yorkie Puppies / For Sale, Ohio

TexasKat08 03-22-2011 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3471558)
I am going to leave you all to your discussion, leave me and my vets practices out of it. Thank you very much. The battery on me, my integrity, my opinions and my comments is growing old.

I'm leaving this thread with some good input in information form some and have put up with a lot of crap from so many others. I look forward to hearing form all of you again, With so many wonderful things to say, I'm sure...

Good Night!! :(
I'm sorry you feel this way. By your own admission, you are an inexperienced breeder who has a lot to learn. It is unfortunate that instead of taking any of the criticism, much of which is constructive, under advisement, you seem interested only in defending your current practices, which are questionable at best and dangerous at worst.

At the end of the day this is not about you, your vet, or the posters on this forum. We all want what is in the best interest of the dogs. I hope you understand that and change some of your ways, grow as a breeder in your knowledge and practices, and do what is right when it comes to your breeding stock as well as their offspring.

tammy8833 03-22-2011 04:52 AM
a lot of the post on here are not constructive criticism ...its our way or you get bombarded

im sure there are new trends in vaccinations and what not...but some people believe in doing what's worked in the past and would rather be safe then sorry...as i have stated before the idea on waiting to vaccinate is reckless in my opinion and yes i have read the comments that its the new study, its whats being practiced now..yada yada yada....sorry no vets i ve spoken to are follow this procedure (does that make them unqualified as vets? i think not)...which after the first time i read a thread on waiting to vaccinate i checked out and did my research..yes ive seen the wesbsite about dr dodd.

i, personally still believe in "old school" MANY MANY..people, breeders, vets, shelter workers still follow the old school procedures with great success


im not looking to debate...ive done that before and you cant get anywhere with it on yt but just putting in my 2 cents

TexasKat08 03-22-2011 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3471733)
a lot of the post on here are not constructive criticism ...its our way or you get bombarded

im sure there are new trends in vaccinations and what not...but some people believe in doing what's worked in the past and would rather be safe then sorry...as i have stated before the idea on waiting to vaccinate is reckless in my opinion and yes i have read the comments that its the new study, its whats being practiced now..yada yada yada....sorry no vets i ve spoken to are follow this procedure (does that make them unqualified as vets? i think not)...which after the first time i read a thread on waiting to vaccinate i checked out and did my research..yes ive seen the wesbsite about dr dodd.

i, personally still believe in "old school" MANY MANY..people, breeders, vets, shelter workers still follow the old school procedures with great success


im not looking to debate...ive done that before and you cant get anywhere with it on yt but just putting in my 2 cents
The issue of when to vaccinate is just one reason this breeder's practices were questioned. If you read the thread and review her website and posts in other threads you will see that there are many other issues that were questioned for very good reasons. I've seen threads that become very aggressive against a specific poster and it can get ugly. But in this case, she asked for advice on a couple very elementary breeding issues and then got mad when her breeding practices were called into question. If you are a breeder posting on this forum your "opinions" can be construed as "advice." Two very different thing, IMO. And when that advice goes against what is set out by the YTCA and the AKC I think it is fair to question.

concretegurl 03-22-2011 05:31 AM

It's not about "our way or get bombard" at least not for or from me.

It's about education and correct information being posted here...people come here to learn and get help...not to have misinformation handed off by less than legitimate sources as the truth...that's dangerous. It's about safety for the dogs we not only love but are responsible for.

Name them (vets, breeders, shelters etc)...I'll name some too that show and provide information on medical advances and why the invitation is critical and the 'old school' methods mentioned are/is not only incorrect but dangerous.
Then again it's all been shown here by multiple credible sources so it's a mute point providing it again and listening comments of opinion and misinformation that just won't stop.

This thread was in the OP getting the correct information they needed and correcting the misinformation which has been done already...end of.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3471733)
a lot of the post on here are not constructive criticism ...its our way or you get bombarded

im sure there are new trends in vaccinations and what not...but some people believe in doing what's worked in the past and would rather be safe then sorry...as i have stated before the idea on waiting to vaccinate is reckless in my opinion and yes i have read the comments that its the new study, its whats being practiced now..yada yada yada....sorry no vets i ve spoken to are follow this procedure (does that make them unqualified as vets? i think not)...which after the first time i read a thread on waiting to vaccinate i checked out and did my research..yes ive seen the wesbsite about dr dodd.

i, personally still believe in "old school" MANY MANY..people, breeders, vets, shelter workers still follow the old school procedures with great success


im not looking to debate...ive done that before and you cant get anywhere with it on yt but just putting in my 2 cents

babbsiam44 03-22-2011 06:50 AM
Whoo whee!!

To the OP I cannot wait until you post pic's of your little one.

Mardelin 03-22-2011 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3471711)
I really hope so too, think I ticked her off too much to get a positive reaction, action unfortunately...
Have you seen her web site...promotes over vaccinating and has a lot of contradictory information on it...from what's said on YT to there...apparently she does a lot of vaccinating and no health genetic testing...sending pups out at 8 weeks too...health contract covers death (only) due to genetic defect only...... half the stuff under grooming, care, etc is copy/pasted from other sites...
Dawn's Yorkies / Yorkie Puppies / For Sale, Ohio
I can only hope that newbies looking for a pup to add to their family will learn from this thread. Learning that this one person is not one to buy a pup from if they're looking for a healthy, happy, well adjusted pup as close to standard pup.

Mardelin 03-22-2011 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3471741)
The issue of when to vaccinate is just one reason this breeder's practices were questioned. If you read the thread and review her website and posts in other threads you will see that there are many other issues that were questioned for very good reasons. I've seen threads that become very aggressive against a specific poster and it can get ugly. But in this case, she asked for advice on a couple very elementary breeding issues and then got mad when her breeding practices were called into question. If you are a breeder posting on this forum your "opinions" can be construed as "advice." Two very different thing, IMO. And when that advice goes against what is set out by the YTCA and the AKC I think it is fair to question.
Let me add when it goes against Veterinary Colleges and the Board of Veterinarians.....I would question my practice. As far as old school. Many reputable breeders that have been breeding for over 20+ have been practicing this vaccination protocol for years.

teacup0819 03-22-2011 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EsmeeKimme (Post 3471455)
Thanks for all the kind comments and interest, of course the continued support that you all have posted here.

I talk to her at length yesterday on the phone, he is doing very well. From what she says he is eating kibble like a champ and his momma is no longer nursing them. He and his siblings are busy playing up a storm. So at this point just waiting to see what happens. He will be rechecked by the vet to make sure he is still progressing well at the end of the week.

I am just hanging back and waiting UGH lol
The waiting is always the hardest part....love your signature line also!!

EsmeeKimme 03-22-2011 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by teacup0819 (Post 3472106)
The waiting is always the hardest part....love your signature line also!!
Thank you :) and it makes it easier when I can get my yorkie fix on YT :D

Rhetts_mama 03-22-2011 05:57 PM
Would you please post a picture of your hedgehog? I think they are so adorable.

Mom to Hot Rod 03-22-2011 06:19 PM
To the original OP, EsmeeKimme

Welcome to YT!

After sifting thru a lot of this thread, you have gotten some very good advice. I am sorry that you felt that you couldn't or shouldn't post, please do not shy away from posting, responding and certainly asking questions. I've learned sooo much on here and have met many wonderful people and made friends with many more who I have only talked thru the internet with.

You sound like a wondeful person who just wants the best for her new addition, who by the way, is just adorable! I am glad that you found us and will continue to on here.

I wish you well with Riley's homecoming and look forward to seeing pictures of the happy occasion.

It's so exciting bring puppy home. :)

EsmeeKimme 03-22-2011 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3472801)
To the original OP, EsmeeKimme

Welcome to YT!

After sifting thru a lot of this thread, you have gotten some very good advice. I am sorry that you felt that you couldn't or shouldn't post, please do not shy away from posting, responding and certainly asking questions. I've learned sooo much on here and have met many wonderful people and made friends with many more who I have only talked thru the internet with.

You sound like a wondeful person who just wants the best for her new addition, who by the way, is just adorable! I am glad that you found us and will continue to on here.

I wish you well with Riley's homecoming and look forward to seeing pictures of the happy occasion.

It's so exciting bring puppy home. :)
Thank you so much :) I have learned a lot on this site and love looking at all the pictures/smileboxes and videos :D

EsmeeKimme 03-22-2011 06:52 PM
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Would you please post a picture of your hedgehog? I think they are so adorable.
Sure lol this is Q


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