Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3460565)

Yes, have read that. I was just addressing the fault and not the how. I am glad the dog is safe and unhurt and sorry for the poor cat.

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom (Post 3460572)

Actually the :thumbup::thumbup: was the reply to your post. The addition was just a "general" post. Wasn't aimed at you:)

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3460582)

Oh, gosh, I couldn't tell. I thought you were just reacting to my post. I am so sorry. Just joined in Feb. and am still figuring things out. How for sure can I tell so as to avoid responding to the wrong thing in the future?

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3460512)

I disagree. If my dog is in his own backyard living his life and a pet allowed to roam gets into my yard, I don't feel it is my or my dog's fault if the pet is accidentally injured or killed by my dog. It is the responsibility of the pet's owner to keep their own pet home, safe, out of harm's way and above all, off others' premises. I would be very sorry it happened and definitely feel their pain pretty intensely but my fault would not be equal in any way to that of the other animal's owner. Each owner is solely responsible for keeping his pet from trespassing on other's property and safe from harm. That's basic animal ownership responsibility. I only hope that all pet owners will keep their own dearly loved animals safe on their own property so these horrible things will not happen. While I do watch Tibbe when he is out due to his small size, if I owned a Mastiff I would not stand outside or sit by the window the entire time he was out just in case a negligent owner allowed their pet to get into my yard! It is a shame a poor cat is dead because he either had no home or his owner just let him out on his own.

Originally Posted by Islandloverr (Post 3460844)

i know im a bit late with the reply but my phone died & i just reached home.:)

But you basically made the same point as me. The neighbor undoubtedly needed to be watching their cat. Theres no arguing with that. Because the neighbors was so irresponsible....their cat (may it rest in peace) was killed. Whether by the op's yorkie or not.

My point is...that YES its YOUR yard....but u HAVE to keep an eye on your pet also. Especially a yorkie, being that its so small. I know some of you are older with kids....so would you have let your baby out in the back yard freely without supervision?....no right?....why?...because there are soooo many things that can happen or go wrong in a split second. Yes its your property...but its still out in the open.... Unless you have a force-field around your yard. lol.:D

Now if this was a situation where the Op's yorkie had gotten stolen, squeezed between the fence & ran off, or taken away by a larger bird...because it was left unsupervised in "their backyard"...who was going to take the blame for that?....

The hawk?....the theif??....the whole in the fence?:confused:....no the OWNER! You shouldnt have to wait for something bad to happen to YOUR yorkie in your own backyard for you to understand that. :(

but hey....some people learn better the hard way.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3462100)

I have to ask how is a cat owner irresponsible for allowing their cat to be a cat?

A free roaming animal? I'm not sure about everywhere else but here if you harm a cat in your own yard you are in violation of the law...you may scare the animal out, pick it up and remove it, but not harm it as that is how the "free roaming" part of the law is interpreted...of course its also not the fault of someone who has a dog that would kill a free roaming invader...

but I personally would hope people would put in the effort to socialize their dogs (Yorkie to GD) to not be social aggressive dogs, and of course as I said before on here my Elvis flips out the neighborhood cats...but I correct him, we're working on it...via the effort I put in.

Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 3462280)

All cat's lives are cut dramatically, half or more, when allowed to roam outside. The OP also said this cat was a TOM cat, which also means he was outside allowed to mate with all the feral cats in the neighborhood and beyond. Tom cats travel miles to mate, and get in dangerous cat fights in the process which causes terrible puncture wounds and death. I certainly don't mind a neighbor's cat on my property, but I find it difficult to believe a cat owner with a tom cat who by nature, roams,hunts, fights, and mates, can have their life snuffed out of them in an instant while the owner has no idea where he is, or where to look when it never comes home, being responsible. Most veterinarians recommend cats be confined to the house for their safety.

Originally Posted by Coton Momma (Post 3460850)

Well, Hubby is not quite sure about a Yorkie for a few reasons. One is that Angel is still little, just five months, but still not house trained. Both of us have always had large, easy to train breeds. Our last girl was a Border Collie and VERY smart even by BC standards. She was house trained in a few days. Next are health issues and the cost of them. Cotons have few issues but Yorkies have their share. He is worried about paying vet bills once he retires in five or so years. I am looking at insurance. So it is not really a Yorkie he has reservations about but another dog period. I hope that once I get Angel trained up he will be more willing. I REALLY think a Yorkie would be a good companion for Angel.

Originally Posted by lexi43 (Post 3628046)

That was a pretty mean post. My friend and I have 15 cats between us and 5 dogs. If you don't like cats that's your choice but don't make comments because many of us have cats as well as yorkies. As far as cats killing birds I've seen many a dog kill a bird. I don't like to see any animal dead except for some human animals.

Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3628066)

As you didn't quote it....to which of the previous posts are you referring?

Are you saying you have 15 cats & 5 dogs in one household??? In my community that would be considered animal hoarding and would be violation of local ordinance.

Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 3457882)

As long as your dog stays in your yard, you aren't at fault for it killing another animal that wonders in your yard.

It's what terriers do: YouTube - terrier rat kill

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3628261)

The post she was referring to was deleted by admin. We had a :poof_gremlin: drive-by to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3628261)

The post she was referring to was deleted by admin. We had a :poof_gremlin: drive-by to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by Deuce (Post 3458727)

I don't want to sound all abrasive or anything but first:

I highly doubt a tom cat, no matter the size, would just sit there and be murdered. I've seen a feral kitten in action fighting against being captured by a rescue worker (who gave up after several scratches and bites)

I have a cat, and I adore him! I would be beyond grief if he got out and wound up dead in the next door neighbors yard. Attachment 339891 now he is a little chubby (he's been on a diet since I adopted him) and he's down to 13.5 lbs. Rizzo, my yorkie (5lbs) likes to "attack" Fatso on occasion. So I can picture your yorkie "prowling" and closing in on his "prey". For the most part Fatso takes whatever Rizzo throws at him, only because he's just playing, but when he's tired of it he jumps where Rizzo can't follow, or bites/smacks him (no damage yet).
So I just want to mention that overweight cats are not only fast, but pretty agile too. I have seen him squeeze through small spaces, and hop clean over a 4ft fence.

I try not to take anything personal here, but the comments "fair game" and well this whole comment:
Originally Posted by T-Rox http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
:yelrotflm I don't know if its inappropriate to notice since it's such an awful situation with a cat being dead and all but isn't it funny how most of all of us are like "is the pup ok?" or "Your yard, fair game", and my favorite so far " maybe a bird of prey could have killed it with it's talons" haha! I'm guessing none of us are cat people :P. Anyway I'm glad your baby is ok, cats can be super mean. That is my greatest fear with my Roxy is that another animal is going to harm her because she doesn't really attack but she gets REALLY excited and curious with other creatures (of all sizes) and NEEDS to run up and say hi. Did you tell the neighbors??


was pretty offensive. It's not a funny situation when an someones pet dies, regardless of species.
Sometimes Fatso runs out the door in the morning and climbs beyond reach and if I'm running late for work I sometimes have to leave him. He is a big boy and doesn't leave the yard (I doubt he could clear the 8 foot fence) He sure gives me a mouthful when I return though, just sits right next to my drivers side door until I open it, and that's when the meowing starts.:rolleyes:
I would certainly hope that if Fatso was possibly killed by a neighbors dog, they wouldn't be off telling their friends well he was "fair game":( and laughing about the possibility that maybe a bird of prey got to him first, and left him in such a state that he couldn't defend himself from a 10lb dog.
I'm happy the OPs yorkie wasn't harmed, but I feel for the family of the now dead cat. They really should have kept him indoors, but sometimes cats can be just a quick as yorkies when they escape. But I'm sure the family is thinking about this now, all the "what ifs..." etc.

Originally Posted by Ceasar yorkie (Post 3460195)

The cat could have been attacked by a larger dog, etc. and ran to your yard to get away. When cats are scared and hurt they can run and jump to get away. The cat had just died in your yard and your dog was jumping on it to see if it would get up. I have seen my bigger dogs jump on dead birds, etc. trying to get them to play. I have never known a cat to do down quietly, usually a lot of screaming and howling going on.

Your dog could be completely innocent and could have been doing CPR on the cat!! Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 3629380)

:thumbup: I agree.
The only other thing I though of is if the cat was badly hurt (hit by car, attacked by another cat, fox, big dog etc. and already dieing) Then your dog might have been able to pounce and bite the cat, without getting scratched or bitten himself. I have lived with cats and dogs all my life and have never known of a healthy adult cat to just give up. Every cat I have had would have fought to the death. It would have been a loud and bloody violent fight. Not one pounce and one bite.

Originally Posted by yavenay (Post 3629554)

I am a cat lover and I do have a cat. I've had them my whole life. All of my cats have been indoor cats for this very reason. It's a cruel world out there and for cats even crueler. However I don't think your yorkie killed the cat. Whenever my yorkie and cat get into an argument my cat will either make a mad dash and jump somewhere high or give my yorkie a few love taps. When cat's are cornered they can be ferocious with there claws. It's the main reason why I refused to declaw my cat, it's her only source of protection. Even though she's a house cat, there's always a chance she could slip out without my knowing. If my yorkie sees a cat in the yard, she may bark at it followed by a yawn. In other she doesn't feel the least bit threaten by it.