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Oh birds! Mine go crazy to get the birds in the yard! I forgot they freaked out during our construction here...I swear for a few brief moments I thought we were being haunted...okay it was late at night I was watching the haunted show on animal planet waiting for the boy to get off work and the dog would growl and freak out n the kitchen...NOTHING WAS THERE!!! I was semi concerned...then even more so when I found mouse droppings across my kitchen counter-ewwwwww...that was one brave mouse...but i boarded up the area and put up snap traps...don't want my dogs hurt or sick over a mouse...of course I used a snap trap to end the mouse instantly...humane euthanasia and all...don't like sticky traps they are cruel and poison is well who wants a decomposing mouse in their wall or one that your dog could eat when found...again-ewwww, do we all check the vitamin K level of our dogs? |
[QUOTE=concretegurl;3459192]Bengals are very dangerous in the same way wolf-dogs are huh?-...people assume they are a cat/dog and treat them as such ignoring the wild animal part that is inbred in them...We were just talking about that...I'd love get a Wolf but I have dogs and kids and the chase instinct and response to any type of "weakness" will most likely result in a dangerous incident...just not worth the risk to me, or in creating an irresponsible unfair situation to all here. Bengals are bred by an Asian Leopard cat (small wild cat from Bay of Bengal) with a domestic cat - tabbies were one of the first ones bred. The first and second generation are quite wild. My breeding females were 4th generation and their offsprings were even more removed from the wild. Mine were extremely friendly with anyone who came to my home. The term "wolf-dog" would I assume, be the first or second generation and not too trustworthy - I have know experience so can't judge. For my cats' own protection they have always been inside. Not too irresponsible, don't you think?? |
Has anyone said if they thought the cat might have died from a heart attack when or before the time of the fight? Maybe the little thing had a heart murmur and the stress from it all caused it's death. Just a thought. |
Nope that's exactly the same the first three hybrid generations fo wof-dog hybrids are especially concerning in behavioral issues it's the 4 th generations that are "safer" etc...that must be some kind of wild hybrid rule of thumb etc. I don't know seems responsible to me. Were they given ample room and habitat and allowed outside in an enclosed area-my opinion of course on my opinion of standards of care and responsibility. People have house cats but I'm guessing Bangels are not the same obviously...I feel bad for house cats too though never allowed out...I mean if they can't be out for their safety or other's I'd hope they'd get an enclosure to be able to be "out" in some form. I'm more familiar with pure wolfs than hybrids but am aware of their issues etc. Friend had a bobcat kittens...no really bob cat (lynx) was impregnated by a domestic cat... [quote=trin7;3459252] Quote:
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[QUOTE=concretegurl;3459263]Nope that's exactly the same the first three hybrid generations fo wof-dog hybrids are especially concerning in behavioral issues it's the 4 th generations that are "safer" etc...that must be some kind of wild hybrid rule of thumb etc. I don't know seems responsible to me. Were they given ample room and habitat and allowed outside in an enclosed area-my opinion of course on my opinion of standards of care and responsibility. People have house cats but I'm guessing Bangels are not the same obviously...I feel bad for house cats too though never allowed out...I mean if they can't be out for their safety or other's I'd hope they'd get an enclosure to be able to be "out" in some form. I'm more familiar with pure wolfs than hybrids but am aware of their issues etc. Friend had a bobcat kittens...no really bob cat (lynx) was impregnated by a domestic cat... Funny you ask - the first thing we did when we moved into our home wasn't renovating our house - instead we fully insulated our garage for the cats, and installed three small windows that opened into a 16'long x32'wide by 8'high doubled wired outside run we built so neighbourhood cats couldn't have any contact with my cats. I have heard of people breeding cats with stacks of cages on top of each other - disgusting in my opinion. Before anyone criticizes me; cats that are not neutered and spayed will spray and are not suited to be inside a home. I also was a fully licensed and registered cattery which I was very proud of. People could come to my home to see my cats anytime they wanted. When my daughter was born I knew I couldn't put the same amount of time in to taking care of my cats and had them spayed and neutered and kept them as pets. I still have one girl left, from my first litter and she is a happy 15 1/2 year old sweetie! Hope this answers any concerns. |
I love it how creative! :thumbup: Yes cages are sickening I can't believe people do that to animals...some people are sick...my Scoobers is a pup mill rescue dog...pretty familiar with the aftermath rehabilitation it takes to undo the psychological issues from such treatment. [quote=trin7;3459291] Quote:
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I would be sick at heart if my dog killed a cat no matter where it happened but I don't think you can be blamed unless you just watched it happen and didn't intervene. |
Tucker has a very high prey drive, but Im not sure if he would or could kill a cat. He chases my cats around the house on a daily basis and they will go round and round with hissing and barking so yeah you can definitly tell that they are "fighting" sometimes he does get rough enough that I need to separate them but he has never physically hurt them or the cats him. My dogs are kept on leashes when outside, but he does try to chase the birds, wild rabbits, and my mom cats when they are in the yard and he wants to go after them so bad that he barks, whines and yelps untill I bring him in the house. Honestly, Im not sure if a Yorkie could kill a cat or not, but I agree that you would of heard some kind of fight if he was truly hurting that cat. I have 3 cats that were all rescused as kittens, That I refuse to let outside and feel that they are much safer, healthier and happier in the house and that Im a reponsible pet owner for doing so. I have pulled too many of my own (a long time ago), the neighbors and stray cats out of the road, To ever let them out! |
A fox can both jump and climb a fence. |
Bengal cats I used to raise Bengal cats 9 years ago. I still have 4. One is my 17 year old stud cat. He has no claws or teeth but he is still very strong. My Bengals are all very sweet and loving and fetch better than some of my dogs. My cats are never allowed outside; inside cats live much longer and do not have as many health problems. My yorkie, Ceasar, does not approach the Bengals but will try to play with some of my other cats. I hate what happened to the cat. I love both dogs and cats. I hope everyone has a great weekend!! |
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This very tragic situation with the Yorkie and the dead kitty has me worried now. I just posted a new thread asking for advise on how to introduce my new Yorkie pup to my Catalina macaw puppy. Do you think a Yorkie might try to attack a bird, even if it it looks like something out of a fairy tale and is bigger than the puppy (3 ft. long, with the tail feathers - the body is about 1 1/4 ft. long [not metric, I know; sorry] and has a daunting beak that can kill just by looking at it)? I may just never let them interact without bars between them :-0 |
The cat could have been attacked by a larger dog, etc. and ran to your yard to get away. When cats are scared and hurt they can run and jump to get away. The cat had just died in your yard and your dog was jumping on it to see if it would get up. I have seen my bigger dogs jump on dead birds, etc. trying to get them to play. I have never known a cat to do down quietly, usually a lot of screaming and howling going on. Your dog could be completely innocent and could have been doing CPR on the cat!! Just a thought. |
I do not think a Yorshire Terrier, no matter how big could kill a full grown Tom Cat. That cat was killed by something else, and the Yorky went in for a bite. A big Tom Cat can take out a large dog with little or no trouble. Also you would have heard the fight, no matter how quick the kill. The cat was dead before the Yorky got to it. |
I believe a larger Yorkie could kill a cat easily. the prey drive instinct is there and well to be less than graphic, naturally they know how to "get the job done"... However, I'd imagine a cat would not go down without a fight as they too are often the hunter and not the prey...so if the Yorkie had no "fight wounds" and the OP didn't hear a fight in this situation it most likely the cat was killed or died in another manner... My cat was hit by a cat two blocks away and got up ran home, over the fence into the garage...the neighbor saw it and ran after my cat (knowing it was mine) and couldn't believe she made it not only home but over the fence...so it happens that cat's (and other animals) can flee from the scene to another area. |
pinkpatty, I'm inclined to go with CGurl on this... I have a 10 lb Male, and I'm not saying he would'nt take some grief from a Cat, but, those guys are bread to deal with some very aggressive foes. Since I got my Female (who's still a puppy) my Male is teaching her how to "posses" things, us, house, yard and everything else. So, she's "joining" him in their territorial instincts. Now, between the two of them, I don't think a Cat would fair all that well. |
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Also.. (it would have been nice if I could have just added this to my other Post) It depends on how they are raised... If you have one that's been a "Cushion Potato" all it's life, it will not have developed the skills to deal with situations. Depends too, where they are in the Pack/Pecking order, an Alpha will be more likely to step out to confront and defend. |
Honestly IMO....both you AND the neighbor is at fault here. As a pet owner it is your responsibility to be aware of your pets whereabouts at all times. Whether its your front yard, backyard....bathroom, kitchen, or shoe box...you watch them. I have a cat as well....& yes they are roamers...but u still keep an eye on them. I live in an apartment building with a front walkway & balconys....my cat doesn't really have much room to roam...but I'm still on her a** like whit on rice. Now I'm pretty sure the OP has heard of all the terrifying Hawk / back yard predator stories....so thinking that its ok to leave your yorkie out in your back yard unattend wasn't the best idea. as much as your yorkies feel they are pitbulls...they are not. & because they are so small they should be watched. That's like having a baby roam freely around your house. & you feel like because its YOUR house...you don't have to hover over them. :-\ Now you are right....you don't own the neighbor any money...because it was "...fair game..." but I would have gave them SOMETHING...because my animal killed them. Whether its money....offer to get another kitten...or a HAPPY MEAL!....I would've given something. I would've felt really bad that they had to bury their family member. But maybe that's just ME. But ill make sure ill have that "Fair game" mentality when I own a home w/ a front & back yard. I'm going to put up a sign on my front door saying "free puppies" & when people knock, ill set 5 rabid pitbulls on them....why?....because its fair game. Its my property & I can do w/e I please on it. :D |
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That's so true...except...Elvis is a woosy seriously I need to get a video of him going out to potty, he's so prissy we mock him he runs from clean spot to clean spot in the yard gets all mad if the other dogs get him dirty grooms himself for hours and in some dictionary he is pictured next to the definition of lap dog...until he sees a cat, bird, or rodent...it's on, or has a chicken bone...he didn't until the last month and a half play at all but he will thrash a stuffy like no one's business, make sure it's "dead" and proceed back to my lap... When someone comes over if you pet him he rolls over and wants belly rubs, is a lil skittish and hops out of everyone's way...if someone comes to the door or the side gate...he's like a wild beast. :) Quote:
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CGurl, My Male is just a total OPPOSITE... If you were to call him up on your lap, and say... You're a pretty dog, or, sweet Snickers, try to hug him or give him a kiss, like that, he'd jump off your lap in a heartbeat. However... If you tell him he's a BIG Dog, hansom, or how strong he looks. His tail is wagging so hard, it would blow a newspaper off the table ! I suppose it's the tone of voice, cause there's no way he actually understands the implication between sweet and his conception of being a REAL Dog, HA ! PS: ytJilley, :thumbup: |
Here's my thinking you are very in-tune wit his personality and respecting him for it, when you say "awh you;re so cute and fluffy" it's in a sensation child voice when you say "you;re a big boy, barney bad bottom dog" you're excited in your tone and he likes that Elvis in my my lap as we speak resting...lazy cat he is!:D of course his tongue is poked out too |
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I doubt, anyway, that the Yorkie killed the cat. The OP said the body was still warm so it could have had a heart attack, been attacked before it got to the OP's yard and just died there. I am so sorry a cat has died. But it is not the OP's fault, and she does not owe the neighbour any money. |
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