I think Remy came from a bad breeder:(
 

I always thought Remy came from a decent breeder. I didn't know as much as I do now, thanks to YT! I don't think I would buy from this breeder again. She asked me all the right questions before I got Remy. Seemed like she knew a lot and was concerned where her puppies went. Well, When Remy was a baby I contacted her because Remy was peeing on himself as a baby. She said he didn't do this when he was in her care. She didn't seem to care and was very short. So I took him to the vet. Thankfully, he grew out of it. I sent her an email with an updated picture and told her how he was doing. It's been a few days and I haven't got a response. She has a lot of yorkies but the babies are born and raised in the house, I saw this. I'm just not to sure what to think anymore. I want another yorkie one day but I believe I will go the rescue route next time.

Here is her website. If anyone has any info about it or has a puppy from here. Or if you have opinions about, I would love to hear. Thanks!!
Teacup Yorkie Puppies For Sale in Lousiana Yorkie Breeder Yorkshire Terrier puppies for sale Dream Maker Yorkies

You said she has a lot of Yorkies...that can mean a lot of puppies...if each buyer calls her once a week or even once a month, she will be on the phone for hours...that is usually why a high volume breeders sells and hopes to never heard from the buyer again...sad, but true.

How to chose a Reputable Breeder.....

I think that maybe you should read this thread, and click on the link to review the self questions and questioning techniques you can employ when searching for your next breeder.

I only reviewed her site briefly and what was apparent to me is that she does not champion her own male dogs.

well the first "red" flag I see is the LINK to her site....she advertises Teacup yorkies! No reputable breeder uses the word teacup!! That is a selling tactic of byb's or puppy mills...:mad:

I would NOT buy from her again!! Her attitude when you called her..is not the typical attitude of a GOOD breeder! :(

Good Breeders WANT to know how their babies are doing...and are NEVER annoyed to hear from their buyers.:)

Don't feel bad....I've been educated since I joined YT myself....and I won't make those same mistakes again in the future.:rolleyes:

I didn't click on the link - the first words "teacup yorkie puppies for sale" tells me enough.

Thanks! What gets me is her puppies are not really "teacups". Remy weighs about 4.5-5 lbs at 7 months old. He had a brother that was projected to weigh 9-10lbs grown. The rest of his siblings were in the 4-5lb grown range. I also figured since she was AKC, and had champion males that she was an okay breeder. Oh well, I learned and I don't regret getting Remy. YT has been very helpful and I won't be recommending or buying from her in the future.

We live and learn. I don't regret my baby either....but I'm so grateful to YT for educating me so I can make a wiser choice in the future. I'm so glad my babies healthy..but I will NEVER support a byb again!

Like the other poster mentioned....she didn't "champion" her male dogs...she didn't talk of their history and breeding lines...which is a flag meaning 1. either she doesn't know...or B she doesn't want anyone else to know!

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I will check it out! Thank you :). I didn't realize she didn't champion her males until after I got Remy. She was very proud of the champions but I realize now she purchased them after they were already champions.

She also advertises a Health Guarantee but does NOT show the guarantee on the site. It has been my experience that a Reputable & Good breeder WILL put the health guarantee on site for you to view.

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What kind of a breeder would sell their Champions to a breeder like this ? I'm betting NOT a Reputable one, So Sad. Well I'm glad you are Happy with your baby & that Remy is a healthy baby, you got lucky. I'm with you though as I don't believe I would recommend this breeder to anyone else.
Be happy that you dodged a bullet & enjoy your baby:)

What is so unfortunate especially when dealing with some of these people who advertise champion lines etc, is they don't show the dogs themselves but got ahold of nice lines that got away from respected breeders. I did check out the webiste and looked at the pedigrees. i know the breeders she bought from will sell to anyone, no questions asked. Unfortunately, there are show kennels around that do that both in Canada, the USA and Europe especially. You have to ask yourself why someone would go so far from home even to out of country to get breeding stock. The answer is usually that no one else will sell to them.

Is Remy a healthy, sound pup or does he have health issues?

I confess I don't understand the whole "buy a breeder not a pup" attitude. I'm buying a pup. The pup is gonna live with me every day. The pup is the one I'm responsible for for the next 15+ years (hopefully).

I have a new pup, who came to me clean, healthy & sound and received a clean bill of health from my vet. That makes me a happy new pup owner. :)

As long as I'm buying a puppy from someone's pet, and not a pet store or puppymill, what is the issue? What am I missing???

Yes, Remy is very healthy. Congrats on your new pup ;). The "buy a breeder not a puppy" means you have to find a good breeder before you buy a puppy. I got lucky that Remy is healthy because many breeders like the one I listed have puppies that have live shunt, LP, and many other problems. Also, when I contacted Remy's breeder to see why he was having urinating problems, she could careless. A good breeder would have cared and discussed why this was happening with me. This shows me that if Remy ever had a serious genetic health problem she would probably never answer the phone. Why? Because she got her money and could careless about the puppy and she definitely wouldn't want to be held responsible for genetic issues.

The issue is that you do not want to support a breeder who breeds for the wrong reasons. These kinds of breeders do not breed for the betterment of the breed but for the $$$$ & they do not test their breeding dogs for any kind of health or genetic issues & very often pass along horrible genetic issues in their pups to the buyer. Then later in the dogs life it is the buyer & their loved pet that pays the price for such breeding. I purchased a pup from what I was told was a reputable breeder & most people in the valley where I live that own yorkies also bought from this lady. Six yrs after I got my baby she started having some strange issues, turns out she had Chiari. I personally know others with dogs from this breeder who also have Chiari. This is why you do not want to support such breeders.

Absolutely right, not a reputable one who often unfortunately, won the trust of reputable breeders first so sometimes you see some very good lines behind those dogs.

You got the philosophy a little bit wrong. The advice isn't "buy a breeder not a pup," it is "buy your breeder FIRST, then buy your pup."

I did, and we smile everytime we look at Basil! We are so glad we found YT for the education, and finding the absolute best of the best breeder and support group if we need advice. To me, you can't put a price on that. Sure, somethings can go wrong, but at least I know we did everything we could to lower the odds, and knowing that our breeder will be there for us. Also, nice talking to other show breeders that speak so highly and show so much respect. Sometimes it is just best to wait rather than do the impulsive buy. Anyway, that is my advice. But the breeder first, them the pup.

That makes more sense :)

awwe! i'm glad the puppy phased its peeing on himself phase out of it.
my breeder has a lot of dogs but she also has 2 full time help because she shows dogs & also owns a doggy daycare business a well. but if she is doing it out of her own house, i doubt she has help and it sounds very off.

like the above member stated the word teacup is not a good sign.

Good check out the link I posted earlier about reputable breeders. One other addendum; all even very very reputable good breeders, can have a pup with problems. What is important in a good breeder is How They Respond to that situation. Their support of you and the puppy/young adult first.
Some genetic conditions do NOT manifest until after a couple of years old, and even 5 years old in some cases.

It is one reason I think while at a bare minimum, a one year health warranty is disingenuous for this breed, and for many others.

This was going to be my point. What IS the guarantee? If your baby is healthy, count yourself lucky and start researching breeders. Just the "volume" she does (did you see how many bitches she has??) will tell you that she is in it for the money and when that is the motivation it means what matters most is the bottom line, meaning she may be taking short cuts - cheap food, fewer vet visits etc, that will compromise the life of the puppies.

Duplicate post. Sorry.

It's one year. She also said she would Stand behind any puppy with genetic issues. She said she has never had one of hers have liver shunt or any thing of that sort. She also said she does genetic testing. Yes, she does produce a high volume of puppies. She feeds purina pro-plan. She is considered better than a lot of other places around here. Believe me, there is MUCH worse. So that's why I went with her plus it seemed okay at the time. I know better now.

Strange...You emailed an update and didn't get a response...perhaps you should email about interest in a pup from a different email address...she may respond within 30 minutes...
Superficially who knows good bad either-I'd not the word teacup is used...and there's tons of glamor shots (thankfully no soda can pics) but none of the facility, the pups with mom, or pups being pups dogs being dogs-I no likey-but that's my prerogative.

It happens and I know how you feel-it stinks-but we love our babies! Not only research asking Q's but verifying people

Elvis came from a bad breeder same deal asked all the questions she gave all the right answers, she asked me apparently I did too...

Elvis arrived:
bad teeth
worms-whip worms he had all 3 stages present in his within 48hr vet health check
tons of flea poop on him,
he's arthritic-needs supplements his joint all pop @ 2 yrs! Not breeding quality!
his AKC papers never arrived-she refused to send the limited registration even!
his full veterinary records never arrive as promised (he was 2 yrs) when adopted
he was wearing a tight collar in the kennel! It was well worn-collar and his neck!
he wasn't microchipped
had x & o dyed kibble in the bowl not Eukanuba
Well I let it all go right she had tons of excuses and was going to get it all to me and back to me! I should have freaked then but how could I send him back to that?

A couple months after he had three seizures in a day-trip to the ER and numerous calls to the breeder-she blamed them on me immediately and then said the worms were from me too, she'd had enough from me! Then offered me a replacement puppy!

She said she was re-homing him because he was almost 10 pounds-too large to breed with her 5-6pound females...I thought that was responsible and adopted him...then after the replacement pup comments she says, "oh no my female just had two babies...I bred them before I put him up for adoption." WHAT!? She was such a LIAR

Oh it went on from there...she later ended all contact after a big mess offering me another pup and sending me pics of pup and moms in cages! I felt sick! She refused to let the vet release his records...I think she knew he was epileptic and she lied about all her breeding practices...literally everyone of her females was pregnant or just delivered within three months of my getting Elvis she told me she only has two litters a year-not 7-12 and she still lists MY Elvis as a stud on her web site saying he is the father of current pups she sells!
[BI doubt she warned the buyers of his pups they may be epileptic having cluster seizures like Elvis does!
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Elvis had the neurology consult-I wasn't getting another pup from her, wasn't sending him back, never asked for vet money coverage, nothing we ceased contact I just wanted to let her know how he was-she didn't even care to know-she had told me prior he was her favorite but she just had too many to give individual attention and since he was too large for her breeding program she needed to ensure he went to a good home and each dog got the attention they needed-WELL HE DID GO TO A GOOD HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE!

Don't get a pup here either-notice MY Elvis still listed Elaina Shelborne is a Greeder LIAR! She's just very good at deception-I listed her FB too as she often uses that to sell pups when she doesn't use her site, puppyfinder and those at dog shows-she doesn't show she just claims to.

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If she didn't champion her own males does that make Remy any less quality?
Just wondering.

No, I don't think so. Remy's dad wasn't one of her champion males. He has a few champions in his line though. It just means she doesn't show yorkies. She purchased these males just to have good blood lines so she can charge more money. It's all about the money and not the love of the breed or to better the breed.

Concretegurl- I'm sorry Elvis had so many problems. I'm glad to hear he has a good home now :). Remy came to me clean and healthy. I do believe the breeder takes good care of her puppies. She just has a LOT of puppies a year and a lot of breeding females(I think 12). I also have Remy's limited AKC papers and all other records.