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LaurenPatrice 02-18-2011 10:48 AM
coyote?
 
Anyone know much about coyotes? I listened to one all last night around our house, screaming. Very weird noise. I think they usually travel in packs but this was just one. My babies have a fenced in yard and I am always out there but it makes me SO nervous. The fence is not very tall and I know a coyote could jump it. :eek:

RONLYNN 02-18-2011 11:11 AM
I would be VERY CAREFUL. My brother lives here in CA in a very suburban areas and a coyote jumped over their yard and attacked their dog (he has a cockapoo). My sister in law saw heard them and went running out there and by then the dog and the coyote had both fallen into the pool. The coyote jumped out and over the fence. Their dog basically was scalped. She had to be 20 something stitches to sew it back on. Their dog is not allowed outside without them anymore. She said she has seen the coyote in their yard a few times since so she said it is looking for her dog. She called the city to see what can be done and they said unless it hurts a kid they won't do anything....she said she can't believe that one of their kids has to get hurt for them to do something. Also, I thought they don't come out during the day but this happened at 10:00 in the morning!!!

megansmomma 02-18-2011 11:15 AM
It is mating season so they are very active this time of year. Coyotes are more a a noctournal animal so they do hunt and travel in the evening. They really are all around us whether you live in suburbia, large city or out in the country. There have been plenty of siting even within the city of Chicago since they are highly adaptable. Personally, I don't worry too much during the daytime but in the evening is when I always supervise mine when they go outside. I have a motion detector light on the back of my house to illuminate my yard which is a good deterrent. If you do see one nearby make loud noises and they should retreat. They really are afraid of human contact and make sure to keep it that why by not feeding or leaving trash out to entice them for a meal. Also, I try to discourage my neighbors from feeding squirrels or birds since this is a tasty meal for a coyote and makes them more familiar with humans.

lillymae 02-18-2011 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3433670)
It is mating season so they are very active this time of year. Coyotes are more a a noctournal animal so they do hunt and travel in the evening. They really are all around us whether you live in suburbia, large city or out in the country. There have been plenty of siting even within the city of Chicago since they are highly adaptable. Personally, I don't worry too much during the daytime but in the evening is when I always supervise mine when they go outside. I have a motion detector light on the back of my house to illuminate my yard which is a good deterrent. If you do see one nearby make loud noises and they should retreat. They really are afraid of human contact and make sure to keep it that why by not feeding or leaving trash out to entice them for a meal. Also, I try to discourage my neighbors from feeding squirrels or birds since this is a tasty meal for a coyote and makes them more familiar with humans.
This is not always true. I used to live in an area that was highly populated with coyotes & it was not uncommon to see them leaving the neighborhood with someones cat in their mouth in the middle of the day. A friend of mine & her husband were walking their min poodle in the afternoon & a coyote came out of a bush & grabbed their dog rite in front of them, the dog was on a leash so the coyote did not succeed in stealing it from them but the dog still had some severe injuries from the coyote trying to pull the dog from my friend. Her husband had to kick the coyote several times before it finally let go of their baby. It really depends on how hungry they are.

kenrhia 02-18-2011 11:51 AM
I would be extra extra careful, I just lost my sweet Asia this month to a coyote. I live in the country and my husband hunts the back of our property and says he has seen several but we haven't seen them up close to the house. It was dusk and I had let my girl out for potty while I put away groceries, she always thought she was big and bad and was afraid of nothing. I went to call her in and she didn't respond so my husband went out to find her...she was already gone when he went up the back hill but I am gratiful that he was able to bring her home so we could say goodbye and bury her. My new pup will never ever be outdoors with out us and on a leash or in his playpen that has a mesh top closing. I am hoping the hunters out here start thinning the packs when season hits.

shodanusmc 02-18-2011 12:12 PM
Coyotes can leap an 8 foot fence. Sometimes they are alone, sometimes there are 2,3, or up to 6 of them. If they are in your area, go out with your dog. As long as we have Carlo, we are good.....he always goues out first, and comes in last. He knows what his job is. He then gets a treat! Someday, when the big guy does leave us, guess we will have to get another Corso pup to protect the Yorkies, and us! They are a natural guardian, and can back up their bark.

lexi43 02-18-2011 12:16 PM
Good advice, I would be really careful. Thankfully the only animals we see here are squirrels, rabbits, possums, and raccoons. Too bad you couldn't extend your back fence a bit higher. I know they have alarms to keep deer out of the backyards, I wonder if that would work for coyotes. My friend lives in Cape Cod and he has two to keep deer out of his yard and it's pretty loud. There not very expensive and they work on a sensor.

LaurenPatrice 02-18-2011 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RONLYNN (Post 3433663)
I would be VERY CAREFUL. My brother lives here in CA in a very suburban areas and a coyote jumped over their yard and attacked their dog (he has a cockapoo). My sister in law saw heard them and went running out there and by then the dog and the coyote had both fallen into the pool. The coyote jumped out and over the fence. Their dog basically was scalped. She had to be 20 something stitches to sew it back on. Their dog is not allowed outside without them anymore. She said she has seen the coyote in their yard a few times since so she said it is looking for her dog. She called the city to see what can be done and they said unless it hurts a kid they won't do anything....she said she can't believe that one of their kids has to get hurt for them to do something. Also, I thought they don't come out during the day but this happened at 10:00 in the morning!!!
Oh my! I am sorry to here about your brother's cockapoo! I am going to be extremely careful at all times! thank you!

LaurenPatrice 02-18-2011 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kenrhia (Post 3433706)
I would be extra extra careful, I just lost my sweet Asia this month to a coyote. I live in the country and my husband hunts the back of our property and says he has seen several but we haven't seen them up close to the house. It was dusk and I had let my girl out for potty while I put away groceries, she always thought she was big and bad and was afraid of nothing. I went to call her in and she didn't respond so my husband went out to find her...she was already gone when he went up the back hill but I am gratiful that he was able to bring her home so we could say goodbye and bury her. My new pup will never ever be outdoors with out us and on a leash or in his playpen that has a mesh top closing. I am hoping the hunters out here start thinning the packs when season hits.
I am soo sorry for your loss of Asia! I know that had to be such a tragedy. My thoughts are with you. I am going to be watching my two like a hawk!

megansmomma 02-18-2011 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3433686)
This is not always true. I used to live in an area that was highly populated with coyotes & it was not uncommon to see them leaving the neighborhood with someones cat in their mouth in the middle of the day. A friend of mine & her husband were walking their min poodle in the afternoon & a coyote came out of a bush & grabbed their dog rite in front of them, the dog was on a leash so the coyote did not succeed in stealing it from them but the dog still had some severe injuries from the coyote trying to pull the dog from my friend. Her husband had to kick the coyote several times before it finally let go of their baby. It really depends on how hungry they are.

Here is a link to and article that I just read regarding a ongoing 10 year study of coyote habits. It is very interesting. In particular it says that coyotes do not eat cats but instead like to "tear them up and roll in it" :eek: As for dogs, if you are small and loud ......:rolleyes:

Also, he is quoted:

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Thankfully normal coyotes don’t want anything to with us and avoid us. Its the sick or diseased ones or ones that lost their fear because humans were feeding them that become a threat. Coyotes attacks on people are rare and there are only two deaths recorded, one last year in Nova Scotia.
Here is the link to the entire article. There was an entire series that ran in the paper recently and if anyone would like to see more let me know and I will try to link them all.
Outdoors: Living with coyotes in Lake County - Lake County News-Sun

LaurenPatrice 02-18-2011 12:23 PM
THANK YOU all for your replies. Great advice. I figured it was mating season, since this sounded like an animal in heat. I do have a flood light in the backyard so it is very well lit but I am still going to go out there with them no matter what. It is so scary to think something like that could happen. We live in the country so I know coyotes are abundant I have just never heard one so close to the house. I hope everyone is careful watching their pups!

deonk1 02-18-2011 01:46 PM
BE VERY CAREFUL. not sure if Nova Scotia's coyote issues made the news all over the place, but we now have an active bounty out for them. Hunters actually get money for them because there have been so many problems. There was actually a young singer killed by a coyote (mind you she wasn't the smartest person hiking in the woods on her own) but nonetheless the poor girl didn't deserve to lose her life. These stories prove that these animals are very hungry and will not always be scared of humans.

We have coyotes around mom's barn, we never leave the horses out at night, and we've lost cats to them.

lillymae 02-18-2011 09:02 PM
I do understand what is the norm but when I lived in California those coyotes had no fear of humans. We used to ride our horses in the wild game reserve & they usually 1 to 3 would often follow us for a long ways while we rode & no amt of hollering at them ever scared them off. We would often turn our horses & try to chase them off & they would run about 30 or 40 ft & as soon as we stopped our horses they would stand and stare at us till we started riding off & would start following us again. Now I live in Idaho & these coyotes are not nearly as brave. So basically I would not trust a coyote as you never know what's going on in their minds and depending on what they have been exposed to & if they are hungry or not, just too many things to name but not all coyotes are afraid of humans. Also here in Idaho I have never seen coyotes out during the day but in California we saw them almost everyday during all times of the day.

107barney 02-18-2011 09:40 PM
I have heard that coyotes are so adapted to suburbia that they do not fear humans. This article appeared in our paper a couple of months ago and talks about a yorkie who was sadly killed. It also addresses the adaptation of these animals. Scary!

Group tracks coyotes in Jamestown and on Aquidneck Island seeking information on their behavior | Environment | projo.com | The Providence Journal

megansmomma 02-18-2011 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3434224)
I do understand what is the norm but when I lived in California those coyotes had no fear of humans. We used to ride our horses in the wild game reserve & they usually 1 to 3 would often follow us for a long ways while we rode & no amt of hollering at them ever scared them off. We would often turn our horses & try to chase them off & they would run about 30 or 40 ft & as soon as we stopped our horses they would stand and stare at us till we started riding off & would start following us again. Now I live in Idaho & these coyotes are not nearly as brave. So basically I would not trust a coyote as you never know what's going on in their minds and depending on what they have been exposed to & if they are hungry or not, just too many things to name but not all coyotes are afraid of humans. Also here in Idaho I have never seen coyotes out during the day but in California we saw them almost everyday during all times of the day.
If you read the article what is said was that the coyotes in the West are larger, can carry rabies and are less fearful than the midwest version. It did not say why there was a size difference or if they are the same species? When people feed them they also become less fearful of human. In IL it is illegal to feed coyotes and we are always warned of the dangers of doing so.


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