my 16 month old yorkie called fudge, please read

[chris1972]

hello everyone my name is chris and i am 38 year old who simply loves dogs, but also needs your help as i am at my wits end with my yorkie.

i have a lovely mongrel who is 11 years old. placid, loving great with the kids and i love him dearly and he loves us.

after a family death in the household in sept 2009, i rightly or wrongly decided that another dog in the house, would be good company for all of us, including my mongrel, milo. indeed the first couple of months kept our minds of things. i wanted to do this before my mother in laws passing, and she was all for it. but sadly she never got to see our new addition, fudge.

i knew it would not be easy but 16 months on i didnt know it would be still so hard.

the problem i still have is that fudge is constantly playfully biting the older dogs legs and licking his mouth all the time, it just does not stop, ever.

this is causing problems within the family and i have to say its starting to get me down. i feel so sorry for my older dog who still refuses to get angry, but i can tell that he is not happy.

i am a loving father and dog owner who believes in the phrase a dog is for life. i love both my dogs so much but i am starting to think that my problem that fudge is causing will never get better. i am desparate for ANY advice from anyone out there. why does he bite his legs ? if its teething when will it stop. why does he lick his mouth constantly ? please anyone, can you help ?

ps. i had him castrated last year on vets advice in a bid to calm him down. this also has not worked.

many thanks chris

[bchgirl]

Fudge is still young and wants to play. The only solution I could suggest is offering your other dog some area away from Fudge where he can enjoy peace and quiet.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Fudge is still young and wants to play. The only solution I could suggest is offering your other dog some area away from Fudge where he can enjoy peace and quiet.

That is so true!

[CouversMom]

I agree with bchgirl. I think your older pup needs time away from the puppy. I would think that with time, Fudge should calm down some more. He is still a puppy and I would think around 2-2.5 years, he will calm down.

[salazark]

I think the advice you've gotten is good. I woud suggest that while Fudge is separated from the older one, you spend some time wearing him out. Throw a toy for him, play chase, work on training him anything that will expend some of his energy. Does your older one still go for walks? If so, I would try walking them together. This is bonding for dogs and it would get Fudge used to being around him when he's not biting or licking. If your older one doesn't go for long walks any more, be sure to take Fudge for walks - again it's a break for the older one and uses up some of Fudge's energy. I think this can work out in the end but you are right, you owe it to your older one to make life pleasant for him too.

Good luck!

[FidoTheYorkie]

My dog was always licking the mouth of all other dogs, i hated it, he stopped after few months

[yorkieusa]

I sympathize with you. Barely a day passes that we don't go for a walk - around two miles. Of course, we have to have play time, as well. Playing ball, tug of war, and chase are our favorites. These little guys are terriers and have unending energy. Lots of attention helps to discourage unwanted behavior.

[chris1972]

thanks for your replies, he is young he doubt, but will that be another 2-2.5 years before he calms down or until he is 2-2.5 years himself ?. also i do walk them together and when they are out they are fine together. he is typical yorkie, the family call him the rat lol. i know he will calm down in the end as my dad had one......it just doesnt seem to get any easier. thanks for your help and kind words

[lexi43]

Good advice from everybody. I have 5 dogs 2 basset hounds 18 months old, a shorkie 13 months old an 8 week old shih tzu and of course there's Zach my yorkie who is 9 months old. Although they are all close in age they all need time out away from Zach. He is a ball of energy and when I see him getting rough I just seperate them for awhile. Sometimes Zach calms down a little when he's by himself, other times I have to keep him seperated from the rest for the rest of the day. Yorkies are balls of energy. I'm also waiting for him to grow up a little.

[JeanieK]

I have read somewhere that licking the other dogs mouth is a sign of submission. The biting at the other ones legs seems to me like he is just wanting to play. So it's as if he is saying, please don't be mad at me, but I just want to play. I'm surprised that the older dog tolerates it so well.

I agree with the others, separate them for part of the day, or provide a crate for the older dog to go into when he wants some relief from the young tyrant.

[Yorkiedaze]

If your aren't wanting to try some of the suggestions, and are truly not interested in keeping him, then call a Yorkie Rescue. He may do better with dogs around his own age that are also as playful.

[OwnedByJezebel]

I know what you are going through. My Yorkie pup was constantly badgering my 14 year old Maltese. It was a constant effort to keep them apart so that my senior could have some peace.

Jezebel is a very friendly, confident, and persistent (a terrier thing, yes?) pup. She loves all people, but she literally craves being with other dogs. I would take her on walks and to the dog park to let her expend some energy and be with other dogs that wanted to play, but it wasn't enough.

I found out about another Yorkie that needed to be rehomed, his owners had no time for him (worked long hours) and he was lonely. Just like her, he was oversized and they had both just turned a year old. I took her to visit him to see if they would be a good fit, and they loved each other, so I brought him home. The have a blast playing together, and they rarely even acknowledge my senior. She can now lounge around in peace again.

So you keep them separated until she outgrows puppyhood, or find an outlet for her.

[Ladymom]

Sadly, I think you have found out that a senior dog and a puppy aren't usually a good mix.

Does Milo have a separate place that is off limits to Fudge? Milo should have a quiet place to sleep, etc. where he is not bothered - a "Fudge free" zone. When they are together, they should be closely supervised. Milo sounds like a sweet old guy who will put up with it rather than growl or put Fudge in his place. It's your job to make sure Fudge does not chew on or bother Milo. Milo is top dog and deserves to spend his golden years quietly.

[143julz]

Our new pup is constantly "biting" our 2 1/2yr on his legs...It does get upsetting to see....BUT I would catch them playing and after a few minutes of it and then my older one will snap at him, putting him in line

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Sadly, I think you have found out that a senior dog and a puppy aren't usually a good mix.

Does Milo have a separate place that is off limits to Fudge? Milo should have a quiet place to sleep, etc. where he is not bothered - a "Fudge free" zone. When they are together, they should be closely supervised. Milo sounds like a sweet old guy who will put up with it rather than growl or put Fudge in his place. It's your job to make sure Fudge does not chew on or bother Milo. Milo is top dog and deserves to spend his golden years quietly.

Excellent suggestion and what I was going to say as well. When Lucy first came home; she could not jump on the couch or on Ringo's favorite stool in front of the window ~ so these were 'Lucy free' zones for him. I think it kept him sane.

She still paws at his face and licks and bites his ears when she wants to play. But he has learned how to tell her 'I'm not in the mood' without scaring us all to death by using a low growl.

There's still the top of/back of the couch for him where she can't get to; he likes to lay there a lot and nap. He also goes outside a lot on nice evenings and will stay out there for a while since she doesn't like to be out there as much.

Sounds like you can work it out. Like another poster suggested; I would try tiring her out a bit a well with long walks, playing fetch, etc.

Best of luck.