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Dixies Mom 01-09-2011 04:04 PM
As Not To Hi-Jack anothers thread
 
Even though a thread I have been reading and even posted on is going in this direction, I decided to start the topic here and hopefully get an answer to this question...

Has research of the Parti isolated what has come to be known as the "Parti Gene"? What about in the other colors coming out, the Golden Gene, the Chocolate Gene?
When a breeder states their puppies carry the parti gene, do they DNA each dog to prove it?

Rhetts_mama 01-09-2011 06:04 PM
My understanding about the Golden Yorkies is that it's not a gene at all, but rather incorrect markings that make it appear gold. Could be wrong.

As far as the Parti gene, I don't believe there is a test specifically for it at this time. And because it is recessive, most traditional color owners don't even realize that it's in their lines until they throw a Parti colored pup.

Someone correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly.

roseylovestosho 01-09-2011 06:07 PM
I can't wait to read responses. LOL at your thread title. I enjoy learning new things when I willingly search for them...

megansmomma 01-09-2011 06:12 PM
My head hurt but let me grab a snack
:2popkorn:

~I'll check back in about 10 days and 5,000 posts later. :rolleyes:

roseylovestosho 01-09-2011 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3387539)
My head hurt but let me grab a snack
:2popkorn:

~I'll check back in about 10 days and 5,000 posts later. :rolleyes:
:bravo::bravo::bravo:

jp4m2 01-09-2011 06:19 PM
In the words of Bette Davis......"Hang on it's going to be a bumpy night"

Rhetts_mama 01-09-2011 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3387539)
My head hurt but let me grab a snack
:2popkorn:

~I'll check back in about 10 days and 5,000 posts later. :rolleyes:
Chicken. LOL.:D

megansmomma 01-09-2011 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3387596)
Chicken. LOL.:D
Do NOT call me a farm animals :pfft:

gemy 01-09-2011 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3387632)
Do NOT call me a farm animals :pfft:
LOL well I for one can certainly wait to hear the responses:eek:

Rhetts_mama 01-09-2011 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3387632)
Do NOT call me a farm animals :pfft:
Fair enough. Which type should I call you?:p

jencar98 01-09-2011 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixies Mom (Post 3387299)
Even though a thread I have been reading and even posted on is going in this direction, I decided to start the topic here and hopefully get an answer to this question...

Has research of the Parti isolated what has come to be known as the "Parti Gene"? What about in the other colors coming out, the Golden Gene, the Chocolate Gene?
When a breeder states their puppies carry the parti gene, do they DNA each dog to prove it?
Hi Dixie's Mom.....I do believe you've asked your question expecting answers. There may be a more in depth answer but I believe Rhetts_mama is right. I don't think genetic studies have gone as far as to isolate the specific gene.

I do wish the gene could be isolated and the exact make-up of the yorkie be known and this debate could be settled once and for all.

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3387526)
My understanding about the Golden Yorkies is that it's not a gene at all, but rather incorrect markings that make it appear gold. Could be wrong.

As far as the Parti gene, I don't believe there is a test specifically for it at this time. And because it is recessive, most traditional color owners don't even realize that it's in their lines until they throw a Parti colored pup.

Someone correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly.

Dixies Mom 01-10-2011 05:35 AM
A university of Southern California at Berkley Professor was able to isolate a single gene in a traditional German Shepherd (a male) who had produced a Tri-Color Shepherd. This gene is now called the "Panda Gene".
With all of the disagreements no one has talked about the scientific research available.
In my opinion pedigrees can be unreliable...it's a piece of paper. Genetic testing of these dogs will answer all questions.

Dixies Mom 01-10-2011 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3387526)
My understanding about the Golden Yorkies is that it's not a gene at all, but rather incorrect markings that make it appear gold. Could be wrong.

As far as the Parti gene, I don't believe there is a test specifically for it at this time. And because it is recessive, most traditional color owners don't even realize that it's in their lines until they throw a Parti colored pup.

Someone correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly.
Thank you...I have seen advertisements that have stated "Carries the Gold Gene" I was just wondering how they know that.
My "Son"...A traditional Black and Red Shepherd who's mother was a Panda, has been DNA does not carry the "Panda Gene". He is also not called a "splitter" LOL

bchgirl 01-10-2011 07:48 AM
While it's interesting...the difference is the mode of inheritance. It has been scientifically proven the coloring in partis and biewers is the result of the recessive piebald gene. Both parents must offer the gene for it to be expressed.

In panda shepherds...the mode is a single dominate.

Phenom Shepherds - Genetic Panda Info

My understanding of the 40 some thousand genes that comprise a dog's "make up"...the most research and known information is in regards to coat color.

There is a genetic marker available for the piebald gene so yes... whether a dog was a "carrier" or "splitter" could be determined via DNA.

Dixies Mom 01-10-2011 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3388008)
While it's interesting...the difference is the mode of inheritance. It has been scientifically proven the coloring in partis and biewers is the result of the recessive piebald gene. Both parents must offer the gene for it to be expressed.

In panda shepherds...the mode is a single dominate.

Phenom Shepherds - Genetic Panda Info

My understanding of the 40 some thousand genes that comprise a dog's "make up"...the most research and known information is in regards to coat color.

There is a genetic marker available for the piebald gene so yes... whether a dog was a "carrier" or "splitter" could be determined via DNA.
Excellent!!! Thank you.
Now what about the other colors? Golden? Chocolate? These are specific colors. Are there markers for them?


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