I never said such..that was from a quote by someone else(it was quoted using the quote feature so I don't understand how you got that confused)...I commented to another how they misspelled the word...my post was deleted by moderation otherwise you'd see such...
But I was pretty blatant continually talking about color how is it people get so confused...here's a cup for all of you...:cup:

There's nothing wrong with people wanting a tiny, and if they understand the problems associated with them and can care for them safely, I say, "Go for it"! This is about breeders MARKETING tinies, and actually breeding for them. A good breeder occasionally has a tiny, and does not jack up the price and Market it! In fact, many good breeders actually place the tiny in a loving home for FREE. They don't sell heartache. So this is not about the dog, it's about the breeders.

Jodi, If he ain't started honking the horn yet, you got some time.:D

As for the puppy in that picture, I don't know.:(
I noticed the grooming salon in Hawaii mentions puppies available at the end of the add.:confused: Groomer, breeder, daycare~sounds like a jack of all trades. I emailed so we'll see.:rolleyes:

Well, it's been deleted now, so I have no proof, but I quoted you directly, and you also answered my post saying don't use your name. I'm not saying that you said people were jealous of those who owned tines, you seem to be saying people were jealous of parti's. My post was to say,

ROFL :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Go, go YT detective force?:D

Where's Steve? I'm wondering if he can add this to the list of things being requested for his facetious litters. Market demand, right?

Can everything in marketing techniques even be feasibly put on that list??? I think there are just too many and eventually they would probably start to contradict one another. Although that list is a hoot to read!

Question
 

I see that a lot of you here breed yorkies. I also see that you truly love the breed and all that goes along with that.. I completely respect you for that.

However, again, I am going to make you angry. I know a very good tiny breeder, and she only breeds for tiny yorkies. She loves her dogs. She takes a lot of care and spends a lot of money with vet care and keeping everything safe and the breed as best she can, like the ladies here. Just because she breeds tinies and does ask a lot for them doesn't mean she is not a good breeder. I take that as an insult to her.

Sure there are not good tiny breeders out there and there are breeders tha that have the standard that aren't good either.

What my question is....why all the fuss about the tiny yorkies? Why do you get so upset about it?

What!? :confused: Read post #6 read the word jealous-I commented on it's misspelling hence Wyllie's moms deleted my comment and the note on moderation...jealous of Parti mom's?-huh I didn't say that but I will if ya want...:rolleyes:...silliness...use my name if ya want, just don't include me in the advocacy of the unnatural downsizing of any breed, or the breeding of dogs to small to carry pups, please and thank you.

There must be some sort of a communication gap. I never said that you were advocating the unnatural downsizing of any breed, and I don't think I implied that.

This thread was in response to the posting that had SICK looking "tinies" or perhaps stuffed animals and a complete scam. There were red flags and marketing ploys all over the place that people need to be educated about avoiding.

I made the comment regarding the size of 5+ pounds not being big after your comment made them sound like they were huge. When in reality, there isn't much difference in size/portability between a 5 pound dog and a less than 5 pound. There can be a difference in health, but that really wasn't a factor in my comment. I just wanted to point out that I don't consider 5 pounds to be BIG by any means. They are still very tiny dogs even past the 5 pound marker.

I do not know the breeder you are referring too, so I'm not about to comment on that. Nor do I have evidence on how she markets to customers either. I don't feel I insulted said person in any way.

I dont think you are getting what people are saying nobody dislikes tinys just breeders that breed for them. Why should breeders be breeding for a dog that is more fragile and more susceptible to injuries and health problems. You even said your dog had lp which is very common in tinies and usually because of injury. Why should a breeder be breeding for one trait smallness and charging outrageous prices for them. Also I dont thiknk a tiny should be allowed to go to just any household because they are fragile but these breeders usually let them go to whoever can pay their outrageous price rather than to the most suitable home

Please explain how purposely breeding tinies is bettering the breed?

If you had read my other post, I said that I did not consider 5-7lb dog being big either, just that I want a smaller one. I certainly never said that size is huge. I mentioned my 15# chihuahua is huge, for the breed.

Good golly miss molly:eek:

A lot of us are against the breeding of tinies because the YTCA the mother club for the Yorkshire terrier and the protector of the breed says:

Most responsible breeders believe that it's just plain cruel to breed a dog under 5 pounds. The added weight of pregancy is dangerous, and hard on her joints. Just because you breed a tiny, it doesn't mean that you will produce a tiny. I always recommend buyers avoid "one trait" breeders.

I know you did. I wasn't saying you stuck with the original big implication. I said why I posted on size in regards to "tinies." I was simply stating that I wasn't being insulting or getting up in arms, which was in response to your post that people were getting upset. I wasn't upset at all and was clarifying why I even commented on size or the "tinies" in the first place, which had nothing to do with getting my panties in a twist.

So don't good golly me. It wasn't like I was being mean.

:thumbup: Exactly

Health being the imperative issue to me, not a kennel club standard...here (hilarious right TEACUP bashing by a designer dog expert) I know nothing about this lady BTW, but was just saying health is the issue for some not a kennel club standard...so even if you like outside the box Yorkies...you should still be concerned with health and breeding a dog to small to be bred is a virtual death sentence and should be considered cruelty on so many levels.

When Yorkshire Terriers are too small - under 4 pounds - there are at least five serious problems owners face.
1. Very fragile
Their bones are extremely fragile; a jump from the couch or other pets in the household can seriously injure the super-tiny dog and of course, they're not for children. Besides very fragile bones, the Teacup's organs are often underdeveloped and can suddenly fail.
2. Dental problems
Every breed has weaknesses, and Yorkies are known for dental problems like baby teeth that don't fall out and huge tartar build-up. For Teacups, add another issue: there's often not enough room in their mouths for healthy teeth to grow. That makes feeding a challenge and you may be faced with costly dental work almost immediately to relieve your dog's pain.
3. Hard to potty train
It makes sense that since the Teacup's bladder is much smaller than 'regular' Yorkies, that house-training can be almost impossible no matter how hard you and your puppy work at it.
4. Difficult to feed properly
Extra-small Yorkies must have a very high quality dog food made specifically for puppies, or food that you make yourself... and they must eat at least 3 times a day, if not 4 or 5 times. That's a big responsibility.
5. Low-blood-sugar shock
If Teacup Yorkies don't eat often enough, they risk hypoglycemia -- a drastic drop in blood sugar that can lead to shock and even death! There is a risk of hypoglycemia in all toy breeds when they are puppies, but once they're a bit bigger that danger fades. However, the threat is always there for Teacups.
These are just 5 reasons why ethical breeders don't try and produce extra small Yorkies. To them, the Teacup is simply a too-small runt who, by cause of today's better vet techniques, happens to live. And unfortunately for the owner, the Teacup, however cute, brings a whole slew of problems.


Deb Gray is a self-taught expert and confessed lover of Yorkshire Terriers, Maltese and their crossbreed, Morkies. Learn more about making these dogs your perfect animal companions at Deb's sites http://www.growingupyorkie.com and http://www.yorkie-maltesemix.com You'll find practical advice, hints and down-to-earth tips; resources; forums and unique sources for gifts, equipment and more.

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I have found some people post the pictures of the pups when they are "young and cute" and not the most recent picture, maybe that was the best picture they had. Big changes from 9 weeks until 11/12 weeks

The Op's original shock was the size and the price tag of the "tiny" yorkie. If you continue to breed tiny unhealthy animals....what is going to happen to the breed over time?

I never thought of that, but I think they should post newer pictures if they truly are larger than older pictures.

What about that weird (to me anyway) indent in its back?

I think we all know the answer to that, unfortunately.

birth injuries
 

No, I said my dog has cerebrial palsy. cp is a birth injury. It could happen with a standard sized dog also. I don't know about that being common. I've never heard of it.

My point was that not ALL tiny breeders are unresponsible. I know one that is NOT! She does not just let her tinies go to any place. That was my point. Not all tiny breeders are irresponsible. There will always be tiny breeders, as long as people, such as myself are looking for them. It would be so nice it the reputable tiny breeder be treated with respect also, instead of people that think they know it all treat them like they are bad breeders:eek:

Yeah, I was only referring to the pictures and not the whole website, etc.
I was kinda shocked at how small the pup looked and I guess since I know people don't always post the most recent picture I was hoping that was the case and that the pup in the picture wasn't actually 11 wks old.

I think what I am saying, I don't want speak for the others, is that your breeder is responsible as far as placing them well and taking care of her puppies. What I am saying is the bigger picture....breeders that just breed for tinies only, are doing damage to the breed as a whole. Why would you add to health problems of a breed that already has many? Why would you knowingly increase hereditary conditions?

We are never going to agree on this subject so it is best to let it go. You think breeders should be breeding for tinies because you like them and Ive told you the reasons why they shouldnt. I also think their is responsibility on the buyers part to buy from a reputable breeder that has the breeds best interest at heart so the whole problem doesnt fall into the breeders hands because if their werent people seeking tinies breeders wouldnt be breeding for them

The dog's head in the ad looks waay too big for it's body. To my untrained eye, it doesn't look quite 'right'.

I hope the poor little thing is healthy.

I love Yorkies and I love the Maltese, but there is no reason to crossbred them, you do not get predictable results when you crossbreed. Even when you breed two purebreds together, you have to know what you're doing and understand the line, but when you throw in a whole other breed, you can't predict anything. Shelters are filled with mixes, and if someone wants a mix that's where they should go. Again, there is nothing wrong with mixes, they are cute, but it's the breeders who intentionally breed for them, many are against. So when linking a article, it's good to use a reliable source.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood.:(

That's okay. :) We're cool.