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Speaking of teacups... Check out this ad that I found in the Houston Chronicle... http://www.marketplacelocal.com/port...ousPage=search |
Wow under 2.5 lbs way too small to be breeding :thumbdown :thumbdown |
Parents under 2.5 lbs!?!? What the heck are they trying to do to those poor babies. The pups must be soo small and fragile when they're born. :mad: :( |
That is just aweful. I got my Laila from a breeder who had kept her for show/breeding -but when they realized she would only grow to be around 3 lbs they put her up for adoption. I can't imagine 2.5 lbs breeding. That is so aweful! I was so thankful the breeder I got Laila from was so respectful of the pups and their welbeing. |
Personally, I'd take a puppy scale with me. Some breeders say a lot of things and people that don't know better just take their word for it. |
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I called the ad and they were all sold. The lady was very nice. She had two litters with this little momma and she had two "perfect" babies in each litter she said. No open fontenelles or anything. She had her spayed after the second litter. She sais her vet told her that as long as the male is smaller than the female the it is okay to breed that small. She kept one from each litter but she is not sure she is going to breed the little girl she kept because she has too much trouble giving up the pups. She falls in love with them and she says she's too old to keep any more. LOL If I were breeding I would want to make sure there was "no chance of a throw back" from somewhere down the pedigree line but the theriogenologists (reproduction specialists) don't seem to think it is a problem either. |
wow...what a deal. |
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No one can guarantee, however, that they will not have a throwback somewhere along the way. Even with a reproduction specialist. There is no way to guarantee 100% that it won't happen. That's why they call them throwbacks and there's no telling when it will happen. I had mentioned in another thread that Gracie's smallest puppy was 3 ounces at birth and I remember the length and size of her. I could not imagine something weighing just 2.5 lbs giving birth to a 3 ounce puppy (being it the largest). To me, it's just too risky. It's not like their giving birth to pinkies. These are puppies that are larger than that. |
Well, I am glad someone found out something. That is just very small. |
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All I can say is thru phone calls - people LIE. I'm sure she lost a few if she is breeding that tiny - do you really think she's going to share ALL the information on those puppies with you on the phone ? and as far as problems with the puppies - I doubt someone is going to tell the whole truth that will take a dog that small and intentionally breed her - And so what if she SAID her vet encouraged her to breed tinies - If that's true then THAT VET IS JUST LOOKING FOR MORE BUSINESS Remember - HE is the one she would be running to for the C sections and problems with the babies - To me - Encouraging the Breeding of Tinies in any form is just wrong. Sorry - but that is JUST my opinion and 2.5 lbs is just TOO TINY |
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Ask the REAL Ethical breeders out there what they think about there not being a problem breeding for tinies....I doubt you will find one good breeder out there agreeing with these people. |
Just talked to another vet about the breeding of yorkies under 4 lbs. They say that they do A LOT of c-sections not only on tiny yorkies but chihuahuas as well. The vet tech said that there are so many complications in breeding dogs that small. She told me a lady in town bred her two tinies and the pup was too large. C-section later and that pup ended up being 7 lbs. She said 2 tinies don't guarantee tiny pups. |
Awwww....Not to mention how CRAMPED and crowded the puppies are in a tiny mom - too many problems with tinies - it's just Common Sense that it would be a difficult birth and almost a Guarantee C-Section - PLUS the chance of the puppies being born with serious health issues - They have NO ROOM in a tiny mom !! it's just wrong.... I wish I never heard the word "Teacup" and really don't like the fad to go smaller. :( :( :( :( |
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1 Attachment(s) A beautiful teacup for a nice cup of tea . |
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That IS a beautiful Teacup...now tHAT I could wrap my hands around with no fear of hurting it :D :D :D :D |
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ROFLMAO!!!!! :eyetearss :eyetearss :eyetearss |
tinies The vet is a real jewel..he does not have the best interest of his client or her dog in mind. If only all the ills of breeding was cured by using a smaller male!!! KIM...let me get graffic. have you ever seen the erected penis of a 2 or 3 pound stud? They are not TINY...I am not going into the whelping part..I would not allow a tiny female to be naturally bred from the start. And by the way, I have seen some 6 and 7 pound males who would put a grown man to shame. |
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(Sorry I just had to laugh when you said "I have seen some 6 and 7 pound males who would put a grown man to shame" LOLOL! :D :D |
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:eyeballpc :eyetearss :eyetearss :eyetearss Yes, they are quite impressive!!!! |
I am certainly not encouraging the breeding of any yorkies period. It is not for the faint of heart. In my opinion breeding yorkies of any size is risky because of their size and the fact that they are a toy breed. There is a higher percentage of c-sections in this breed for that reason. 2.5 lbs or 6 lbs......it's a risk. A 6 lb yorkie can have a 12 lb yorkie! I give a lot of credit to the breeders who are able to do this because I could never accept that risk for one of my babies. But...if everyone were like me, there would be no more yorkie babies. :( |
Yes, a 6 lb Yorkie can produce a 12 lb baby -- that is true. But I'd rather be SAFE and take my chances by breeding a 5+ lb Yorkie then subject an EXTREMELY tiny Yorkie (anything under 5 lbs) to a pregnancy merely because "teacup" dogs are the latest craze right now and the money market for them is so hot. |
What's Next? What are these "teacup" breeders going to breed for next ... a teacup Mastiff? A teacup Rottweiler? Maybe a teacup German Shepherd is going to be the next hottest hollywood craze, who knows! |
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They have toy schnauzers now...under 7 lbs. Minature pinchers, but you're right...what will they minaturize now? |
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