I'm just a little upset with rescue
 

But maybe someone can help me to understand. The rescue in NY did not go through. I found another rescue closer to me and was looking at what yorkies they had for adoption. I found 2 that might be a match with us. One was a pup the other 2 years old. I was looking more at the 2 yr old. She was a hair under 5 pounds, jemma is 6 pounds so that's pretty close. Ok, here it is. I called the number. I wanted to find out the dogs activity level. Jemma has a high level and if that dog was quiet and laid back jemma might be too much on her. I could not even ask that question until a application was filled and they reviewed it which could take up to a month so the dog could be gone and no longer available. Well if he could have at least answered that one question I would have found out if a application should even filled out. So what is the point of me filling out a application after waiting up to a month to hear sorry the dog is no longer available?
Also why is there such a hugh difference in adoption fees. Why should a rescue charged 750.00 for a 2 year old and 350.00 for a 4 yr old? If the dog is being adopted what difference is there in age. Don't they realize the longer the dog is in foster care the more it is gonna cost rescue to care for it. Its not like the rescue put more care into the younger dog. Now for those in rescue, I care deeply for all you do. I'm not asking to be jumped on I'm asking so I can understand. Btw out of sheer frustration I just didn't fill out the application. If the dog matched he would have had a wonderful home with jemma and I. I also won't pay 750.00. A little too much in my book

Wow, I don't know what rescues you are dealing with. I'm sure they all have different rules for different reasons. The ones I've dealt with would have answered at least that simple question. Most I've seen have pretty much the same fees across the board no matter the age or health, they figure it evens out in the end. But the rescue you called may not do it that way, perhaps they charge according to what they've spent in medical on each individual animal. But, yeah, I see your point, I wouldn't be able to spend 750 on a rescue. They are not doing themselves any favors, when people can sometimes get a purebred pet quality for that. I got both my rescue girls from the same rescue, I had to drive out of state. They did a vet background on me, and I sent pics of my house and yard, and lots of questions and questionnaire. But, I paid a reasonable price for both of them. There is no way what I paid for them covered their medical costs. Thankfully that is why most rescues are considered non profit, god knows they aren't making any money....

Most rescues are extremely busy these days and from what I've read they won't answer questions until an app is completed. So, that is just the way that most operate.

Also, most just ask for what they have put into the dog.

Most rescues require an application first. And, yes, it does take time. If you have to wait, so do others. It does not mean that you have less of a chance. Most rescues look for the home that best fits a particular pup, not the other way around; so, if you had the application that looked like the best fit then you would be able to adopt that pup.

As to adoption fees, YHR has a page dedicated to explaining theirs...perhaps it will help you to understand:
Yorkie Haven Rescue Adoption Fees

One of my fosters is leaving for her furever home in the next couple of days. The family adopting her have waited for about 7 months for the right fit for their home! They have waited patiently knowing that we would find the right one.....they had applied for a puppy that would not have done well with their two senior yorkies and they appreciated that we told them that.

Rescue is not a fast process! At least it should not be.....the point of rescue is to stop the cycle.

I am sorry that you are disappointed and hope that you will find a pup that will fit well in your home! :)

Maybe I can explain in regard to the application that are required to be filled out regarding an adoption. Rescues have many inquires regarding adoptions. The problem is that there needs to be something in place-basic info- to help weed out the serious inqires as well as to eliminated questionable owners. Making their pool of applicants to wade through smaller. Maybe time someone will sounds wonderful on the phone or in an email but when you look at their application they don't provide even basic pet care. Your would nt believe how often this happens. As for the adoption fee of $750 for. 2 ys old yorkie I can't answer regarding another rescue. But what I can tell you is that all rescues are not created equal. There are plenty that have questionable practices....just like there are shady questonable breeders as well. If you've heard the saying "buy your breeder". The same is for a rescue. Please do your homework. Don't get discouraed with your experience and keep looking. A friend for Jemma will come along :)

I have to say that it can be frustrating.....months before we adopted Trixie from our breeder, we had applied for a rescue pup and have never heard from them...even to this day. I tried calling, emailing, you name it, but did not even get a response. This rescue was also in NY so maybe it was the same one. Keep trying though....there is a sweet pup out there just waiting for you. Good luck with adopting a new pup and have a wonderful holiday season!

Sorry about the errors I'm on my BB and have a hard time. I want an Iphone! :(

It still made perfect sense to me.:D

Thank you, thank you, thank you. A little more understandable. It is not just that I want a playmate for Jemma or another fur baby for myself. I want to help a little gal/guy out there who needs a playmate and human loving and kisses and a lap to sleep on. Don't these little foster guys get really attached to their foster parents only to be whisked away again and re-homed? So sad, little guys. But I also think 750.00 is a lot and I wil just give you my opinion. When you adopt a Yorkie, most are not from reputable breeders. Therefore I think rescue needs to look a little closer at what they have. Problem is, they don't know what they have. Unless they know the parents and if they had problems that could be past on to its offspring. Just because a dog gets a good vet check, as you all know it doesn't mean 6 months down the road you aren't gonna have some medical problems that might have been heriditery. (sp)So asking 750.00 for a rescue you don't know much if anything is too much IMHO. I also then asking that the foster parents who payed 750.00 are now faced with medical problems that can cost a bundle. With real reputable breeders you don't worry too much. But these are not from reputable breeders. OK off to the vets to get Jemma's nails cut. the little demon squeals like I'm killing her.

While I can't speak for that particular rescue, could it be possible that the difference in fees might have to do with how much the rescue has had to put in to the dog? Maybe the 2 year old needed to be spayed and the 4 year old came to them already spayed. Just an idea.

And perhaps the difference could also be a way of encouraging the adoption of a slightly older dog because the pups and the young ones go to homes much faster.

As for the health, no a vet check doesn't guarantee a problem free dog. But then neither does a health guarantee from a reputable breeder. Nothing in those contracts protect you from illnesses down the road that aren't congenital or injuries or allergies, GI problems, etc. We all take our chances when we bring a dog in to our lives.

Most of the time, we do know when there is going to be a problem with a yorkie we adopt out and we make that known to people. We do not just take them in, spend a bare minimum and adopt them out. We do blood work on these pups and if anything is abnormal, we pursue it. It is rare for something to escape us...we also keep them for a minimum of three weeks to evaluate them. They are spayed or neutered and dentals done if needed.

As for the adjustment they must make, yes that is difficult for them and also for the foster homes; but, if done correctly it will be the LAST time they are rehomed! In my opinion, far too many are in rescue because people were careless in selling to just anyone.

Bottom line, if you think adoption fees are too much then you should not adopt. What I will tell you is that if you go to a reputable breeder who does testing on his/her yorkies, you are going to spend a lot more than what you would pay for a rescue. And...then, you will still be faced with vetting...ie shots and spay/neuter. If you adopt from rescue, vetting has been done. I am wondering if you read the link on the YHR page about adoption fees??

Girl, please. Apparently you haven't seen any of my comments when I'm using my Iphone:rolleyes:

Ladyjane, just because I think the adoption fee is high doesn't mean I should NOT do a rescue. I'm giving my opinion as I said in my original post. I know how expensive vet fees can be. I just spent 183.00 at the vets for Jemma. Fecal exam, 3 yr rabies, distemper and nail trim. Bottom line is....I paid it! Part of ownership. But thank you much for your input. I appreciate it.

I was not being smart with you! You said you would not pay it, so I siad that maybe rescue is not for you. There are other ways to get a pup.

I think your motivation for wanting to give a homeless yorkie a good home is admirable! I was just saying there are other ways. Perhaps a different rescue? Or...a shelter. Although...I will say it is hard to find yorkies in shelters in NJ. I lived there before moving to TX and know that they don't show up in shelters there like some other states.

While you may know how much it costs to vet a yorkie, if you have never done rescue, I can tell you that you don't get the whole picture about what rescue does. People who adopt are doing more than paying for the dog they are adopting...they usually are participating in rescue themselves and know that some of the money if it is in excess of the vetting for that particular pup (which honestly is not often the case) is going to help another with more serious issues.

I would suggest that you go to www.guidestar.org and take a look at different rescues' financials. It is quite an eye opener. I know that for us, we never, ever break even with our adoption fees.

Just out of curiousity, what do pups from a reputable breeder run in your area? I'm willing to bet that $750 is a fraction of that.

Scarlett's fee was $475 up in Tennesse, and the local rescue here has a $375.00 fee. Location, location, location.

Question for those who have experience with rescue organizations -- what would you consider a red flag warning that they're not on the up and up? Since I can't foster a Yorkie or provide much in the way of monetary support right now, and since I could do web support in bits and pieces, especially in the wee hours of the morning when I can't sleep and now waste the time playing Farmville (somebody save me!) I've been thinking about volunteering to do some website design to show my support for the cause. I would like to help a local group, and wonder how to go about making sure I'm choosing a "good" group.

You might also consider a rescue out of your area if you want a cheaper price. I've noticed anything close to NYC tends to be more expensive and you are like neighbors, eh? I know all rescues don't promote this option because they require home visits within an hour of the shelter (I ran into this problem in my attempts to adopt. I was willing to drive the 5 hours to get the pup and allow overnight stays in my home to check me out, but they weren't up for it).

Good luck in your search! I know with an adoption fee that high I'd balk a bit too, so don't feel bad!

Since you want to help a local group, I think that evaluating what they do might be easier. Sometimes a local shelter is a great place to start! They always need help! I know a couple of gals who go twice/week to take pics at a local shelter here and then they post the pups on the website for the shelter. Prior to that, that shelter really had a problem getting pups listed online due to not enough help.

A place to start is if they have a 501c3 .. while it does not really legitimize them, it does say that they have put some time and effort into what they do.

I would also look at their website...check out their application to adopt and see how thorough they are.

You also could ask around to see if anyone has experience with any of your local rescues. Maybe your vet might know of some?

LadyJane that is fantastic! I am so excited that one of the furbaby fosters has a furever home waiting. That is so wonderful that she is able to spend Christmas with her new family. Thank you for finding the perfect home for her.

Now see the Yorkiehavenrescue is a nice looking website. the pictures are good, they give you a decent history as they know it and their adoption fees are VERY reasonable. As someone said, it just might be location which stinks then. there were a couple in there my heart just jumped at. One was the little guy with the road burns. My goodness my stomach did flip flops when I saw his little body marked up.
I have been looking in shelters and looking to other rescues. The one rescue in NY is receiving 6 more Yorkies after Christmas. I received a email and phone call that I was next on the list and pre-approved. Talk about Karma. I'm typing this and my phone rings about the Yorkies. I guess they aren't as strict as some rescues although I think they should be as far as the screening process goes. But I am going to continue to look as one of those may not be a match either. Sure there might be one available tomorrow but it doesn't mean it's a match. Soooo I will continue. Ladyjane, do you think it advisable for me to make out applications to a couple of rescues within a two hour radius from me?

Thanks! I am also very happy for Heidi! She is a sweetie. It is hard to find the right home for some of them and it just takes time. In her case, she just had lots of medical stuff that needed to be addressed first as is the case with many that I tend to be drawn to. That keeps them with me a bit longer and it makes it harder to part with them; but I always know that where they are going will be the last adjustment they ever have to make so I am ok with it.

I also love the special needs pups, but they often take longer to place. I finally got my sweet yorkie chi mix, Ajay, placed this past year after a very lengthy stay with me. He is living the life now in Baton Rouge and his family loves him!

But...YES, Heidi and her family will have a wonderful Christmas indeed! :)

OK...I am babbling now.

Glad you got some of the actual rescue folks answering your questions. I just want to encourage you to go ahead and put in your application so that they will have your home to consider when looking for a perfect home for the next yorkie that comes along. It might not be the one you saw advertised, but instead one they match perfectly to you and your family! I admire those wanting to get into rescue. It is not an easy process from what I read. I wish you well and believe with patience & understanding you will be rewarded with a wonderful addition to your family!

Thank you! We do try. :) You are talking about Tilly....she has tugged the heartstrings of a lot of people, including myself. Poor little baby. Thankfully, she is ok now.

I don't know about that rescue...they approved you without an application??? That is a bit strange. Be careful! If they do that, chances are they are not reputable, and I don't want to think what you might get. I have seen people end up with some really messed up pups that did not actually come from a rescue...although they called themselves that!

You are so right about the fact that it might not be a match ... be very careful and ask lots of questions. If a rescue has not had a pup for at least two weeks....honestly I prefer longer, then they have NO clue what that pup is like. There is always a honeymoon period....what I get in is never the same after 2 - 3 weeks! Sometimes it takes even longer to see the personality of a pup. We had one that would take about a month before her true colors came out...she turned out to be horribly aggressive with other pups. She was fine and then went goofy...we thought it was because the other pup was a female, so we placed her in a foster home with a male. Five weeks later she flipped on him. Hard to believe that a tiny yorkie could be as aggressive as she was...but she was. Ultimately she needed to be an only pup.

Yes, I would definitely complete applications because most reputable rescues are going to look at that first! Just be sure to check their website out thoroughly! If you need help evaluating them, feel free to PM me...or heck just post it here!

I can give you a bit from my experience. i volunteer with YTNR and on their website, each available dog has a little bio about them, and most will say this dog would do better as an only dog, this dog needs to have a quiet home, etc, etc. this helps with weeding out too many apps. Then once you fill out the app, and it's a long one, you can put in what dog(s) you are interested in. Sometime the one you are interested in is not the right match, and another could be recommended. But just bc you get a call does not mean you are the right match. You would still need to pass a home check.

As far as fees, puppies have a higher fee so not everyone will try to get the puppies and leave the older ones. the ones who have surgeries are higher, however even with katie's bladder stone surgery, her adoption fee was $300. She was already spayed, but also had a dental, and was in the hospital for nearly a week. I think that was a very low fee for how expensive invasive surgeries and overnight vet stays are.

Don't forget that the right dog will come along when the time is right.

Seems I may need to borrow this post for a reply to someone who posted on my YT wall with a complaint...ugh!

Thanks for wording it perfectly for me to borrow! :D

Thank you all for replying. You helped me more than you know!!!

Layjane, I've been searching and researching and came upon this site. I see their location can be a drive for me but they might be better to deal with. And some driving is ok with me. Adoption fees very reasonable and they are right in the state next to me. Perhaps a match can be found. Jemma is sitting on my lap as I type this. We're in this together. The thought of giving a little guy a lap and a little sister playmate feels wonderful. If you know of this rescue please let me know. they look very good!
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BTW, I wanted to mention that I could see myself getting involved with rescue but when I thought about it I said no. My personality make up would not allow me to let go of a Yorkie after it has been with me awhile. I'd get myself into a hoarding situation and that is where those 6 Yorkies are coming from in NY. A hoarding person. And I went to my local shelter to volunteer. I couldn't do that either. I was a mess when I left there. Only thing I can do for the shelter is keep collecting things to donate to them. I go to house sales and buy lots of towels and throw rugs, things like that. I guess I am just too emotional a person to see the pain in those doggy eyes, kills me. I'd love to poke the eyes out of the people who bring them in. Don't get me wrong, some are valid. But not the stupid excuse ones, bigger than I thought, or we thought he would be easier to handle, yada yada. Have they no damn idea that the dog looks at them as his family and that they just threw him away? OMG I have to stop typing. I get emotional and angry at the same time. You are very VERY special people. God Bless you.

Oh wait another question. Does each Yorkie rescue charge 25.00 to fill out a application? I have to fill out the application and send 25.00 processing fee. But if I put in applications at other rescues, 25.00 is going to start adding up quick, lol

I personally would never pay a fee to complete an application! Someone posted not so long ago that SAY does that. I also know a group here for Bostons that does it. I believe it is done so that they can eliminate the ridiculous applications that do come in; but I also believe it pushes some people away. I don't think you will find it with many other rescues, so if you see a pup that tugs at your heartstrings, I would say go for it. I think they just want serious applicants!

That rescue has been around for some time. I don't personally know them, so I cannot really comment on them one way or the other. I do think they are fine..as I said, I just don't know them. :)

Keep us posted on your search for a new family member! :)