I have NO intention of breeding. I would eventually like to get a mentor for Showing, but thats only because I love the excitement of the show ring. I have no intention of breeding anything, let alone tiny little furbabies that could make me loose my dog. Which may seem silly, since that is why you show. But still... No one says you HAVE to breed a Show dog right?

ETA: Lucy never mentioned dinner... She said she had no plans and I could come any time after 3 when the tile guy would be done installing the tile.

LOL!!! Thanks for playing the "switch the screen names" game.

Mmmm so Lucy called you to come to her defense....

Sorry, don't buy it......Anyone that says she's rescuing dogs and thinks it's ok to breed rescues is beyond words. Anyone breeding dogs, unaware of their background is only adding more dogs to the rescue statistics........Geez, what's wrong with people now days.

In a word...GREED.

Easy enough to find out.....have Admin/Mod check it out......maybe one of the quickest memberships in history here.

You people know you can be banned for having duel identities, don't you?

.... reading another thread I saw that most reputable breeders wont have a litter around this time. When is usually a good time to find a puppy? I just thought it would be easier around this time to find one with all the selection...

That's not the word that came to mind....several others did and if I used them, I'd be called on the carpet.

Hi Lucy!

One cannot "take great care" of their rescues if they plan on breeding them. And, you do, by your own admission. That is reprehensible.

Rescuing dogs (I'm assuming from another BYB or puppy mill) is supposed to get dogs OUT of breeding by getting spayed/neutered and adopted into loving homes.

Now I'm confused...this is what you said in post#7 on the first page:
>>I dont have to have show quality, but I am not willing to settle for unhealthy or off standard.<<


But now you say you want a mentor for showing? If you really want a puppy for showing and that's what the mentor is for then why wouldn't you be looking for a show quality puppy?

Well you find your breeder first. I know that you may live in an area where that is not so easy to do.

But go to ytca.org and or talk to some more folks on here, and or go to shows in the state of Utah and meet in person the breeders.

Hey Y'all can you believe I was PM'd a couple of days ago. Someone wanting to sell me two puppies.

Listen CatDog~I don't care of Lucy is an antelope her breeding ethics suck! :thumbdown Sorry that you missed your Alpo but I'm sure you can open another can. I'd like to open a can or two today just for your friend.

From Champion lines, no doubt :p

Ok, most things like to breed but that does not mean they should. I have to say that comment took me aback.

Sorry, I did not mean to be confusing. For my first puppy, I know that no one will let me have a Show dog off the bat, so I am ok with a good pet quality while I search for a Mentor. I signed up for the Mentor/Mentee program through AKC but I highly doubt I will find one locally. In the mean time, I would like to get a puppy to "practice" on, like grooming, conformation, training, ect. Does that make a little more sense?

To begin with - this your first post. Enough said.
Next - She takes great care of her pups? Then why in the world would she breed "rescues"? Rescues should never be bred! Common sense would tell anyone that breeding a rescue is completely irresponsible and clearly only being done for the money. Shes says they will make beautiful babies - what about healthy ones? I doubt it. Who knows their background? Who knows if there is some recessive gene that could come out in their litters that could lead to a poor sick puppy and costly medical bills and not to mention a lower quality of life for that poor pup. She canceled dinner and didn't even get a sale?? She should care about her dogs not if she gets a sale or not. A reputable breeder who doesn't get a sale after a showing knows its for a reason - that the puppy and person are not right for each other. They wouldn't mind that they wasted their time because they know that eventually this puppy will find its forever home. Or in this case that this so called breeder is someone who clearly is not ethical in her breeding standards and strategies. As for attacking Lucy - she clearly is not a reputable breeder who will only cause problems on this forum. I hope she is banned and that her unethical ways are soon stopped.

Seriously I don't understand how anyone could try and defend her.

:rolleyes: I bet they were great deals too. Right? Champions to add to your line?

It's not that we won't have a litter at this time. We won't allow a puppy to go home during the holidays.....You can look during this time, checking out breeders.

Another thing reputable breeder won't do is allow you to take a pup home on your first meet and greet.

Thank you, I didnt know that! I have no problem meeting a breeder as many times as it takes for them to be comfortable. I am always willing to let them come to my house as well to see where their little one will live. I take great pride in keeping my house neat and clean, and think I could offer a puppy a loving, caring, spoiled house where it would spend what is hopefully a long life...

There are several show breeders right here on YT and many other members who can give you great references for a good breeder. If you're going to put all that time and work into practicing why don't you look for a puppy that is a little older and exhibits some show qualities instead of buying a pet quality pup? I think that's what I would do if it were me looking...and it would cut out a lot of the frustration too.

I am speechless, My jaw just dropped on the floor and my eyes are bugging out of my skull right now.

Don't know....didn't give her a chance to do the old shpeal of Champion lines. But, I should have asked her if they came with breeding rights.

No one expects a neat and clean house.....well, not spotless. What we want is the best possible home for our pup. One where the pup is loved, fed, kept clean, and proper care. We especially want a home where our pup will live out their entire life.

Take your time and you will find the right breeder, and then the right pup will come along.

I'm not sure if you have considered this yet, but you might want to take a look at going through a rescue. You'll end up with a companion dog that you can love and groom to your hearts content. Plus, you will be saving a life. I have 2 and I couldn't love a show dog any more than my two off-standard love buckets.

I didnt mean to sound like a neat freak, I just meant I dont have stuff lying around that a puppy could get hurt on or chew up. I saw a thread on here about getting down on your hands and knees and see from a puppies point of view how the house looks and pick up or move anything that they can get at. I am just still soo sad today... It has been such a heart breaking day, getting one bad news after the other...

Not everyone is lucky to find a mentor close by. You may have to travel a bit....not many shows in your area.

No to knock AKC....but, going that route isn't going to work.

It's hard to do, but you're going to have to take your heart out of this search. At least for a bit. Use your brain and instincts in finding a breeder. Don't get caught up with the cute puppy, all pups are cute......focust on that breeder.

POOF! I see :)

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