Originally Posted by anniez69 (Post 3327074)

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3327536)

When you come on a public forum and post a question, you are going to get a wide variety of answers. Some you will like, some you won't. No one is trying to "guilt" you in to anything. But since you aren't the only one reading the replies, hopefully the experience of others will help educate the next person who comes along. It's a simple fact that the dog you see in the shelter isn't necessarily the dog you will have once you've gotten him home. If you are aware of that, great, but not everyone is. When my parents were looking at rescues, they almost passed up on Oliver because he seemed too timid. I convinced them to give it a try and he is now the biggest cuddle bug and kiss giver they've ever had.

You made up your mind, fine. Hopefully both of those pups will find good homes quickly with people who are aware of the challenges they might face. They are too cute to left there for long.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3326990)

When you walk into a shelter looking for a new pet, you cannot expect their behavior to be anything like it would be in your home. Shelters are very stressful to animals and they will begin to take on and show signs of xenophobic behavior from the others animals around them.

You also cannot expect a shelter worker to know the true personality of a puppy that is in a shelter. It takes about 2 weeks for the true personality of a shelter pup to come out. Shelter works can be very stress by the daily neglect and suffering they are witness to so please try to cut them a break. They are underpaid or volunteers and not treated with much respect for what they do. :(

My Bogey is a shelter pup and if I would have assessed him by his behavior at the shelter I would not have a wonderful, calm, sweet, cuddly, beautiful little guy. His coat was a mess (dull, brittle, matted), he was so hyper that I was barely able to pick him up, did not walk on a leash, he didn't know grass, stairs, toys, treats, tricks, treats, or proper social behavior. Right now he is curled on my lap sleeping and is the biggest love bug that I could possibly want. He loves the car and it always the first at the door to go bye-bye.

I'm not even sure how to address your comment about pet shop/breeder comment. IMO anyone who allows 2 dogs to have puppies is a breeder but that does not make them a good breeder. Purchasing from someone who calls themselves a breeder does not mean much in my book.

It unfortunate that you were ill-prepared for your experience in looking for a new addition to your family when you went to the shelter to look at the 2 little puppies. You might have just passed up the very best addition to your family and helped to save a live. :(

Good luck in your continued search for a new puppy. :)

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3327557)

Totally agree with what I bolded.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327575)

And you are correct, but what did that have to do with anything? Why was the poster even questioned about that.

Any breeder that would allow their dogs to end up in a petstore or a shelter is not much of a breeder. But the volunteer or whoever said "petstore/breeder, same thing" should be educated.

The OP had every right to question the discrepancy.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327575)

And you are correct, but what did that have to do with anything? Why was the poster even questioned about that.

Any breeder that would allow their dogs to end up in a petstore or a shelter is not much of a breeder. But the volunteer or whoever said "petstore/breeder, same thing" should be educated.

The OP had every right to question the discrepancy.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327575)

And you are correct, but what did that have to do with anything? Why was the poster even questioned about that.

Any breeder that would allow their dogs to end up in a petstore or a shelter is not much of a breeder. But the volunteer or whoever said "petstore/breeder, same thing" should be educated.

The OP had every right to question the discrepancy.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327664)

I have written in my contracts, that under no circumstance is the puppy to be taken to a shelter, or even given or sold to someone else. If the party can no longer keep the dog, for whatever reason, the dog is to come back to me.

However if the people were to move away and decide it would be easier to take the dog to a shelter, than to ship it back to me, it could happen that one of my dogs would end up in a shelter.

Does that make me a bad breeder?

The flippant answer from the worker was uncalled for, the fact that they did not read the report before giving answers shows negligence on their part.

Maybe it was poor training, maybe it was poor attitude. Either way it does not appear that they were trying to make a good fit, they were just trying to get rid of a dog.

The OP had every right to question it and to expect a legitimate answer. And I don't see why she is being chided for it.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3327697)

What does any of this have to do with you and your breeding practices? :confused: There were 2 puppies in a shelter so unless they were from your breeding program there is no reason to bring your contract into the conversation. :rolleyes: I think that all breeders should be required to microchip their puppies. Breeding should not be taken lightly. If I were breeding I would want to make sure that any of my puppies did not end up in a shelter w/o my knowledge. Contracts are broken all the time. Microchips are forever.

Yes, the OPer asked a legitimate question but the answer should have been more along the lines of this:

"Unfortunately, there is no way that I can give you an answer to your question. They will be UTD on their vaccines and spayed/neutered prior to leaving. The former owner most likely lied to us about the health, vetting, temperament, and overall care of these puppies. As a matter of fact, all of the animals here we really don't have any idea what they are really like. They are scared, overwhelmed and filled with anxiety due to the fact that someone allowed their dogs to breed, didn't take responsibility for their actions."

People that allow their pets to breeders need more training in responsible pet ownership. If it wasn't for irresponsible breeding practices shelters wouldn't be overrun with dogs and cats.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327747)

My contract was used as an example to show that just because a dog is taken to a shelter, does not meant that it came from a poor breeder. Anyones puppy could end up in a shelter under the right circumstances.

She asked where the dog came from and the worker told her from a breeder. The paper work, that was filled out by the owner said they came from the pet store. So the Owners did not lie. The worker failed to give the correct answer. Which would lead me to believe they really were not concerned. If they had been, they would have given the correct answer, or at the very least said "I don't know, but I will find out". But they were very flippant and IMO Rude and non-caring.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3327552)

There is a huge difference between buying from a breeder and buying from a pet shop. And if the shelter volunteer thinks they are the same thing, that person needs to be educated.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3326990)

When you walk into a shelter looking for a new pet, you cannot expect their behavior to be anything like it would be in your home. Shelters are very stressful to animals and they will begin to take on and show signs of xenophobic behavior from the others animals around them.

You also cannot expect a shelter worker to know the true personality of a puppy that is in a shelter. It takes about 2 weeks for the true personality of a shelter pup to come out. Shelter works can be very stress by the daily neglect and suffering they are witness to so please try to cut them a break. They are underpaid or volunteers and not treated with much respect for what they do. :(

My Bogey is a shelter pup and if I would have assessed him by his behavior at the shelter I would not have a wonderful, calm, sweet, cuddly, beautiful little guy. His coat was a mess (dull, brittle, matted), he was so hyper that I was barely able to pick him up, did not walk on a leash, he didn't know grass, stairs, toys, treats, tricks, treats, or proper social behavior. Right now he is curled on my lap sleeping and is the biggest love bug that I could possibly want. He loves the car and it always the first at the door to go bye-bye.

I'm not even sure how to address your comment about pet shop/breeder comment. IMO anyone who allows 2 dogs to have puppies is a breeder but that does not make them a good breeder. Purchasing from someone who calls themselves a breeder does not mean much in my book.

It unfortunate that you were ill-prepared for your experience in looking for a new addition to your family when you went to the shelter to look at the 2 little puppies. You might have just passed up the very best addition to your family and helped to save a live. :(

Good luck in your continued search for a new puppy. :)