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Lizzie07 10-08-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3293800)
No, they don't...not any more than AKC does. (Except AKC requires that they be s/n.)
If the parents of the dog were different breeds, they will give you a certificate showing the pedigrees of both parents, but that's all it amounts to. The dog is not being registered as a recognized "breed" itself and no dogs produced by that pup are eligible for the certificate. It's done, just like AKC, so the dogs can compete in agility events.

The AKC doesn't register mixed breeds, but you can enroll a mixed breed in the Canine Partners Program and only if the mix is spayed or neutered, which will allow you to compete in agility and obedience trials. There is the PAL/ILP, Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Priviledge registration. This is for purebred dogs, or dogs thought to be, that are spayed or neutered to be registered for performance events. The difference would be, for example, in the case of my Italian Greyhound puppy, who came from a store, and is ACA registered. She is a purebred, albeit not greatly bred, and I will be getting her ILP so I can come in agility events, obedience events, and ANY other AKC events, which would be lure coursing, that an Italian Greyhound can come in. Mixed breeds can not compete in lure coursing events.

From what I have read on the CKC website, you can breed and register the puppies of a dog you get a CKC registration on whether the parents of said dog were registered with CKC or not. No way you can do that with the AKC.

FlDebra 10-08-2010 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by slimem2003 (Post 3293799)
[quoteIs it The Continental Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club -- makes a HUGE difference! ]
Its the Continental Kennel club..[/QUOTE]

:( My opinion is the only registration for yorkies in the US that means anything is AKC. The AKC tried to implement soem restrictions years ago to make it harder for poor breeders to continue with slipshop recordkeeping and sloppy breeding practices. Many of those breeders banded together to develop some of these other "registries" that are now rampant. You will find puppymills using CKC, ACA, etc. rarely AKC.

As several already said, AKC is not a guarantee of an ethical breeder and the fact that a breeder uses one of the worthless registries does not mean they are a heartless puppymill. But..... if registration is important to you, you should go for the registry that means the most, that actually puts restrictions on breeders, and puts money back into education and protection.

BamaFan121s 10-08-2010 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizzie07 (Post 3294094)
The AKC doesn't register mixed breeds, but you can enroll a mixed breed in the Canine Partners Program and only if the mix is spayed or neutered, which will allow you to compete in agility and obedience trials.
Yes, that is the exact same thing that CKC is doing in issuing certificates to mixed breed dogs. It's done for the same reasons and holds the same value-the dog is recorded in their system and can compete in non-conformation events, etc. Aside from AKC requiring that the dogs be s/n, the only difference in the two is the use of the term "register" vs "enroll."

It's all a matter of how what you think of when defining the word "registration." By definition, the term fits their program, even though it is not being used in the same context most of us think of when we hear the word in reference to dog. Is it misleading? Very much. Probably intentionally, IMO. You could just as easily use the words 'enroll' 'participate' 'sign up for' and it would mean the same thing.

Lizzie07 10-09-2010 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3294146)
Yes, that is the exact same thing that CKC is doing in issuing certificates to mixed breed dogs. It's done for the same reasons and holds the same value-the dog is recorded in their system and can compete in non-conformation events, etc. Aside from AKC requiring that the dogs be s/n, the only difference in the two is the use of the term "register" vs "enroll."

It's all a matter of how what you think of when defining the word "registration." By definition, the term fits their program, even though it is not being used in the same context most of us think of when we hear the word in reference to dog. Is it misleading? Very much. Probably intentionally, IMO. You could just as easily use the words 'enroll' 'participate' 'sign up for' and it would mean the same thing.
Not really, if you "register" a mixed breed dog, say a Morkie, you can breed and register the puppies as Morkies too. You can't do that with the AKC.

HollyandMommy 10-09-2010 06:26 PM
What about a dog that Has papaer like America's Pet Registry? I don't get that one.

felicity1008 10-09-2010 06:44 PM
I have CKc papers on my pups, i have one from ACA, AKC AND apri, i sent in the papers to ckc. People lie and deceive and will do anything to collect a buck I had 2 stud owners offer me AKC paper on my bitch and i refused , although before my personell experience i thought AKC was the bomb , i think little of them now.

felicity1008 10-09-2010 06:45 PM
AKC does not reg mixed breed , thats one thing i respect.

BamaFan121s 10-10-2010 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lizzie07 (Post 3294967)
Not really, if you "register" a mixed breed dog, say a Morkie, you can breed and register the puppies as Morkies too.
No you can't--offspring produced by those dogs are not eligible. The parents HAVE to both be purebred.

WV~Yorkies 10-10-2010 11:06 AM
If you want a pet you can find a good Ckc. I have a girl that is and I would put her up against any of my akc. She is one of my first and very special to me. I wouldn't trade or for all the AKC in the world.


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