Difference in AKC and CKC
 

When I got Chipper the man who sold him to me said that his parents were CKC registered, so I registered Chipper with CKC. I was wondering what is the difference between AKC and CKC registering. I've had dogs my whole life and this is the only second dog I have paid for. most of them were giving to me by friends, and were sooners. so I'm new to this registering thing. just wondering what the difference was.

Is it The Continental Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club -- makes a HUGE difference!

I will try to answer this as best I can. I am no expert....
The AKC is the American Kennel Club was the original kennel club in the USA in the early 1900's. The parents must be registered with the AKC or equal international kennel club. They have requirements that must be kept in order to have breeding dogs and they inspect the kennels.
The CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) is the Canadian equivalent of the AKC.
The CKC (Continental Kennel Club) your dog does not need to be registered in order to get papers, you can send in pics of the dog and get papers (lol) and viola its registered. :rolleyes: They also register mixed breed dogs:eek:
A lot of puppy mills and BYB use this registry as they do not have any requirements of the way the animals are kept and they do not inspect them.

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Its the Continental Kennel club..

No, they don't...not any more than AKC does. (Except AKC requires that they be s/n.)
If the parents of the dog were different breeds, they will give you a certificate showing the pedigrees of both parents, but that's all it amounts to. The dog is not being registered as a recognized "breed" itself and no dogs produced by that pup are eligible for the certificate. It's done, just like AKC, so the dogs can compete in agility events.

It shows that both parents were yorkies. and it has his parents names on the paper....

Just for the record, being an AKC breeder does not automatically make one honest and ethical, just as being a CKC breeder does not automatically make one a dishonest puppy miller, nor does it assure an AKC dog is a "better" quality. There are good and bad breeders under BOTH registries. Thus why it is always important to research the breeder themselves.:)

CKC does call it "registration", so that's where a lot of people who haven't researched what it means comes up with the idea that they have "papers" on their dogs.

Does Continental Kennel Club register mixed breed dogs, and if so, why?
Yes, while 98% of the registry is made up of purebred dog registrations, CKC does offer its registration services to owners of mixed breed dogs. Owning a mixed breed dog is very common today, and CKC wants to be helpful to those dog owners as well. Many mixed breed dogs are rescued from shelters by responsible owners looking for a good canine companion to be part of their home. CKC encourages registration of these dogs for a number of reasons. Registration services provide proof of ownership, allow the dog to participate in our performance events, allow CKC to record the accomplishments of the owner and these canines, and make available all of the great services CKC has to offer.
Continental Kennel Club applications and registration papers are designed to ensure the public understands the different registration classes at CKC. Puppy applications and registration certificates are stamped with ‘PUREBRED’ or ‘NONPUREBRED’ in bold print so that new owners know what they are getting. Also, the abbreviation, ‘MISC’ appears in front of any mixed breed description on the BREED field. In addition, the CKC unique numbering system for miscellaneous breeds uses different prefixes so that computer programs can prevent the recording of a mixed breed dog as purebred.







Also, another key difference between CKC and AKC is that where as a puppy can be sold with a "limited registration" via AKC, there is no comparable designation with the CKC. That means the purchasers of a CKC dog can get around a "non-breeding" contract and still register the pups.

oh ok .. thank you! you guys are so great and all the advice yall give is wonderful. and I appreciate your time .. its a really great things yall do here on this site..

Chipper is quite a cutie BTW! I just love them as babies and their ears look too big when they first stand up. Wish I could have tons of yorkie babies around me all the time. Of course, Monkey & Maddie would probably have a thing or two to say about it when it started cutting into their playtime.

Peggy, Monkey & Maddie :daisy:

I am pretty sure they do. A lady brought over a "morkie" that she told me had papers. I looked at them and sure enough this dog had CKC papers...not purebred but the general public has no clue about what the papers are for anyway. Most say "as long as you give me papers so I can register them with the city legally"...
And true neither makes one ethical but the AKC at least does check the places of some of the breeders to make sure that minimum living standards are met, not much but something at least.

Yep. Calling it "registration" is pretty misleading, IMO, because that's not actually what it is in the sense that many people think it is. Then again, what would you call that would be any better, you know?

Like you said though, the general public doesn't know because they don't take the time to understand what it means. That's not CKC or AKCs fault. The "papers" she had didn't say "this is a purebred dog called a Morkie", it's nothing more than a certificate indicating that the dog is from two purebred dogs so they benefit as aforementioned. :) Again though...the same thing that AKC does with the exception of requiring s/n.
AKC does NOT check to ensure dogs living standards are met. When they do inspections all they are checking is the records that are kept, if papers are being falsified, frequent sires DNA'd etc. (Which, BTW, CKC does too if you make a complaint against someone, just not randomly) Their inspections don't have diddly squat to do with the conditions the dogs are kept in. :(

oh ok .. well thank you for explaining this to me.. I had no idea what the difference was or if there was a difference !!

The AKC doesn't register mixed breeds, but you can enroll a mixed breed in the Canine Partners Program and only if the mix is spayed or neutered, which will allow you to compete in agility and obedience trials. There is the PAL/ILP, Purebred Alternative Listing/Indefinite Listing Priviledge registration. This is for purebred dogs, or dogs thought to be, that are spayed or neutered to be registered for performance events. The difference would be, for example, in the case of my Italian Greyhound puppy, who came from a store, and is ACA registered. She is a purebred, albeit not greatly bred, and I will be getting her ILP so I can come in agility events, obedience events, and ANY other AKC events, which would be lure coursing, that an Italian Greyhound can come in. Mixed breeds can not compete in lure coursing events.

From what I have read on the CKC website, you can breed and register the puppies of a dog you get a CKC registration on whether the parents of said dog were registered with CKC or not. No way you can do that with the AKC.

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:( My opinion is the only registration for yorkies in the US that means anything is AKC. The AKC tried to implement soem restrictions years ago to make it harder for poor breeders to continue with slipshop recordkeeping and sloppy breeding practices. Many of those breeders banded together to develop some of these other "registries" that are now rampant. You will find puppymills using CKC, ACA, etc. rarely AKC.

As several already said, AKC is not a guarantee of an ethical breeder and the fact that a breeder uses one of the worthless registries does not mean they are a heartless puppymill. But..... if registration is important to you, you should go for the registry that means the most, that actually puts restrictions on breeders, and puts money back into education and protection.

Yes, that is the exact same thing that CKC is doing in issuing certificates to mixed breed dogs. It's done for the same reasons and holds the same value-the dog is recorded in their system and can compete in non-conformation events, etc. Aside from AKC requiring that the dogs be s/n, the only difference in the two is the use of the term "register" vs "enroll."

It's all a matter of how what you think of when defining the word "registration." By definition, the term fits their program, even though it is not being used in the same context most of us think of when we hear the word in reference to dog. Is it misleading? Very much. Probably intentionally, IMO. You could just as easily use the words 'enroll' 'participate' 'sign up for' and it would mean the same thing.

Not really, if you "register" a mixed breed dog, say a Morkie, you can breed and register the puppies as Morkies too. You can't do that with the AKC.

What about a dog that Has papaer like America's Pet Registry? I don't get that one.

I have CKc papers on my pups, i have one from ACA, AKC AND apri, i sent in the papers to ckc. People lie and deceive and will do anything to collect a buck I had 2 stud owners offer me AKC paper on my bitch and i refused , although before my personell experience i thought AKC was the bomb , i think little of them now.

AKC does not reg mixed breed , thats one thing i respect.

No you can't--offspring produced by those dogs are not eligible. The parents HAVE to both be purebred.

If you want a pet you can find a good Ckc. I have a girl that is and I would put her up against any of my akc. She is one of my first and very special to me. I wouldn't trade or for all the AKC in the world.